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[04:14:31] <thomas> I don't remember the documentation mentioning that. I used the "new" schema thinking that there were improvements in the way the database was structured.
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[05:26:39] <Licaon_Kter> badlop:
> remember the first schema is for "one massive host", and the second is for "a massive amount of small hosts"
And the history shows us that....who won?
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[07:14:24] <Holger> thomas: Advantages and disadvantages.  I prefer the 'old' one for my use cases.  But I'd prefer us maintaining only a single schema over anything else.
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[09:02:50] <badlop> well, i can read in https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/database/#default-and-new-schemas
There are two schemas usable for ejabberd. The default legacy schema allows to store one XMPP domain into one ejabberd database. The 'new' schema allows to handle several XMPP domains in a single ejabberd database. Using this new schema is best when serving several XMPP domains and/or changing domains from time to time. This avoid need to manage several databases and handle complex configuration changes.
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[09:03:58] <badlop> I guess adding this clarification would help:
The default legacy schema allows to store one XMPP domain into one ejabberd database; *this is preferable when you plan to serve one XMPP domain with many accounts.*
[09:05:55] <badlop> BTW, I see the term 'old' is not used, because it isn't old at all, it's called "legacy" or "default"
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[09:24:52] <Licaon_Kter> It's the use of "new" that makes the other schema seen as "old"
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[09:36:17] <badlop> ahh, right
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[09:37:29] <Licaon_Kter> It would have sounded better if you used some other word...ummm....like "dynamic hosts" ahem-mongoose-5-ahem :)
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[09:42:48] <badlop> yes, a descriptive and absolute term like that, or a commercial name like "superhosting", but avoid a relative and non-descriptive name like... "new"
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[09:53:07] <Holger> badlop: "legacy" sounds just as old as "old" to me 😉
At least zinid did have the goal to get rid of the  legacy schema back in the days. (But not before having automagic conversion.)
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[09:54:21] <Holger> And in my book the advantage of one over the other isn't noteworthy enough to warrant the cost of maintaining both.
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[09:55:07] <nosnilmot> can’t the “new” schema still be used with separate databases per host, if that’s what you want? (albeit with a bit of data-redundancy). I have always assumed the medium/long term goal was to move everything to the “new” schema but that’s waiting on someone/something to handle migration
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[12:07:14] <Holger> nosnilmot: Yes it could, and yes that was my understanding as well.
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[15:25:26] <Giovanni> hi people,today I have one question about ejabberd clustering + p2 proxy for push notifications, as I am thinking about how to scale p2 if one instance is not enough.
If I have N nodes in clustering and one p2 instance, I can configure p2 to "talk to" any of the node and I'll get all the notifications I need, right?
If this is true I can have more p2 instances and each one can manage notification for every user that registers on a specific p2...
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[16:13:07] <Holger> I don't know whether p2 supports clustering.
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[16:17:35] <Giovanni> so I need to test that and let you know
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[23:36:07] <agentcasey> Hi, I registered a user checked his password with ejabberdctl everything checks out except that he still can't login I can't figure it out and this isn't my first or only ejabberd server. I'm really tired now, any hints?
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