Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, December 6, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[04:29:52] <Licaon_Kter> Test builds gooya
Report issues
Help others
Etc
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[08:15:43] <Holger> gooya, so it's not clear what the actual problem was?
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[10:00:05] <gooya> > Test builds gooya
> Report issues
> Help others
> Etc
I try to help people if I'm sure that I know what i'm talking about
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[10:01:06] <gooya> > gooya, so it's not clear what the actual problem was?
not really, i did change turn min and max port to 60000:65000 like Licaon_Kter config.
[10:02:01] <Licaon_Kter> Lol, that's...wat?
Your firewall opens what?
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[10:25:50] <Holger> gooya: Is ejabberd running in Docker?
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[10:32:43] <gooya> it is not, i build it from source. But I can't say what was the eventual change that made everything work as I literally copied Licaon_Kter whole mod_stun_disco snippet and listening option
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[10:34:20] <Holger> Ok, whatever :-)
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[12:10:32] <gooya> Something else that just caught my attention is that I keep getting the "[warning] invalid certificate in /xx/xx/ : certificate is no longer valid as it's expiration date has passed". Eventhough the certificate is valid until 2022/02/XX. The certificate is readable by ejabberd user and when i check xmpp.net tester it shows the certificate and says it is valid. Should I just ignore this warning or can i do something about it?
[12:11:18] <gooya> Something else that just caught my attention is that I keep getting the "[warning] invalid certificate in /xx/xx/ : certificate is no longer valid as it's expiration date has passed". Eventhough the certificate is valid until 2022/02/XX. The certificate is readable by ejabberd user and when i check xmpp.net IM observary tester it shows the certificate and says it is valid. Should I just ignore this warning or can i do something about it?
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[12:14:17] <Holger> gooya: Probably Let's Encrypt foo.  They offer a chain that uses an expired root certificate.
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[12:15:19] <gooya> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/9012b254356e262f969c54abdb7ea4296bec7ec8/eHkzfhoPK646PyU6sqPDFS4OduD3fwGZqsleSlz4/Y0viT2VBQOiepXkM3_wVyw.jpg
[12:15:19] <gooya> this one right?
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[12:15:51] <Holger> Yes.
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[12:16:17] <gooya> because this is the one that shows up at xmpp im observary along with the ISRG Root X1
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[12:16:36] <gooya> Is there anything that you can even do about this?
[12:16:50] <Holger> https://letsencrypt.org/2020/12/21/extending-android-compatibility.html
[12:17:05] <prefiks> you can generate certificate with alternative root, that is valid
[12:17:38] <Holger> See the diagram in that article, make sure to use the blue chain rather than the green one.
[12:17:59] <Holger> (The actual certificate can remain unchanged, even.)
[12:18:10] <Holger> How to "make sure" depends on your ACME setup, unfortunately.
[12:18:22] <Holger> Or just ignore the warning.
[12:18:33] Holger loves LE for teaching people to ignore cert warnings.
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[12:20:03] <gooya> > (The actual certificate can remain unchanged, even.)
> How to "make sure" depends on your ACME setup, unfortunately.
I use the certbot to manually request certificates and used the --preferred-chain ISRG Root X1 option.
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[12:20:37] <gooya> hehe
> Holger loves LE for teaching people to ignore cert warnings.
[12:21:11] <Holger> gooya: I lost track on whether that option is supposed to help or not.  The problem is that both chains contain a certificate with that subject.
[12:21:48] Holger loves how LE-ACME makes everything super-complicated by auto-including the chain to make everything super-easy.
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[12:22:08] <gooya> > See the diagram in that article, make sure to use the blue chain rather than the green one.
I thought i was doing this upon requesting my certificate a month ago. however it seems that i didn't do it and i followed the green line?
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[12:23:07] <Holger> gooya: Your warning sounds like that, yes.  One way to track it down is to look at individual chain certificates with `openssl x509 -text -in cert.pem` or so.
[12:23:51] <Holger> Esp. the `Issuer` of the ISRG Root X1 cert.
[12:24:09] <prefiks> you can alos try openssl s_client -starttls xmpp-server  -connect chat.rxmpp.de:5269
[12:24:23] <prefiks> er openssl s_client -starttls xmpp-server  -connect server:5222 -verify 5
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[12:24:41] <prefiks> and see what chain openssl sees
[12:24:49] <Holger> prefiks: Yeah but your OpenSSL may well be happy with the chain while ejabberd isn't.
[12:24:52] <prefiks> and xmpp-cliuent
[12:25:10] <Holger> I mean yes you can do that with -showcerts and _then_ look at the chain with `openssl x509`.
[12:25:27] <prefiks> well it will at least show what intermediate certs ejabberd sends
[12:25:30] <Holger> But you can't make conclusions from `openssl s_client` saying `verify: ok`.
[12:25:49] <Holger> Yes.  `showcerts` will show the PEM files and you can then look at those.
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[12:26:18] <prefiks> iirc it also show whole chaing in that case as well (at least cert names)
[12:26:31] <prefiks> so you can spot if its pointing to r3 or x1
[12:26:45] <Holger> You need the issuer name though :-)
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[12:27:59] <gooya> > Esp. the `Issuer` of the ISRG Root X1 cert.
issuer says: "C = US, 0 = Let's encrypt, CN = R3" ?
[12:28:07] <Holger> The real problem is that non-ancient OpenSSL versions are happy with both chains as long as the CA cert bundle contains the 'new' self-signed X1.  While ejabberd won't be happy with that.
[12:28:25] <Holger> gooya: Yes that's the wrong (green) chain then.
[12:28:56] <gooya> ooff
[12:29:17] <gooya> atleast i now know what causes the warning
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[12:30:02] <gooya> Now I'll have to find out how to use cerbot to request the certificate using the 'blue' chain.
[12:30:10] <Holger> gooya: It's not a real problem clients and remote servers will nevertheless be happy with your chain.  It's just ejabberd's consistency check during startup that's unhappy.  That's the reason you can ignore the warning if you like.
[12:30:32] <gooya> So there are no vulnerabilities?
[12:30:49] <Holger> gooya: Well OpenSSL 1.0.x will also be unhappy, BTW: https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/13/LetsEncryptRootCertExpire/
[12:31:12] <Holger> That's basically the same problem as with ejabberd's internal PKIX code.  But any newer OpenSSL version will be happy.
[12:31:16] <Holger> gooya: No vulnerabilities.
[12:31:59] <gooya> > gooya: No vulnerabilities.
Well that's good to know
[12:32:13] <Holger> gooya: Still personally I'd use the newer chain because in my book it's the right thing to do, but not because the old one has a security issue.
[12:32:59] <MattJ> Holger, what's your opinion on old Android devices? :)
[12:33:08] <gooya> > gooya: Still personally I'd use the newer chain because in my book it's the right thing to do, but not because the old one has a security issue.
yeah I will look further into it after this one expires
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[12:33:10] <gooya> btw does someone know any estimate of when the new ejabberd tag releases?
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[12:33:52] <Holger> MattJ: I hate poor people who can't afford new phones!!!
[12:34:00] <MattJ> I knew it!
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[12:35:53] <Holger> I guess back when the global players behind LE organized the cross-signing, they should've checked the expiry date?
[12:36:08] <Licaon_Kter> MattJ: they can invest in knowledge and read on how to import the cert here: https://www.stoutner.com/lets-encrypt-isrg-root-x1-and-privacy-browser/
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[12:44:46] <gooya> Holger: I remember a few months ago you wanted to implement something before the new release came out and you couldn't do so because of a short time frame. I can't remember what exactly but because of that I thought a new release would be coming soon?
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[12:46:09] <Holger> gooya: I don't work for ProcessOne, but AFAIK, a new release is planned this month, maybe even this week.
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[12:46:44] <gooya> I know but you do are a contributor right?
[12:47:06] <Holger> Yes yes, just not involved with cutting releases :-)
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[12:47:44] <gooya> that was badlop right?
> Yes yes, just not involved with cutting releases :-)
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[12:48:42] <Holger> badlop & prefiks at least work for ProcessOne.
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[12:51:47] <badlop> hopefully this month
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[12:52:55] <gooya> Yeah I still hope XMPP will gain more popularity and thus more contributors would be such a shame if it dies
[12:53:34] <gooya> Like matrix is now taking over as the main selfhosted chat alternative
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[12:55:35] <Licaon_Kter> People start a lot of Matrix servers gooya ?
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[12:57:29] <gooya> yeah it seems so
[12:57:46] <gooya> eventhough matrix is known for their horrible meta data leakage
[12:58:27] <gooya> btw do you know if ejabberd supports XEP 0258 and 0402
[12:58:33] <gooya> btw do you know if ejabberd supports XEP 0258 and XEP 0402
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[13:01:02] <Holger> XEP-0402 is a client-side XEP except for the server-side sync with '49 and '223 which ejabberd doesn't support, no.  (It only syncs between '49 and '223.)
[13:01:33] <Holger> XEP-0258 sounds like you're looking at the server support list of Gajim rather than having an actual use case? ;-)
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[13:12:20] <gooya> > XEP-0258 sounds like you're looking at the server support list of Gajim rather than having an actual use case? ;-)
hehe just checking ^^
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[13:12:40] <Holger> I wonder what Gajim is using it for.
[13:12:56] <gooya> gajim is frustrating me tho
[13:13:08] <Holger> Tried Dino?
[13:13:21] <gooya> they still don't support SCRAM-SHA512 password logins
[13:13:27] <gooya> > Tried Dino?
not yet
[13:13:38] <gooya> do you recommend it over gajim?
[13:14:21] <Holger> Depends on your preferences.  It has a more Conversations-like UI, i.e. less knobs and more modern look.
[13:14:22] <gooya> > they still don't support SCRAM-SHA512 password logins
Therefore I'm now using plain -_-
[13:15:04] <gooya> do you know if it supports audio and video calls and SCRAM-SHA512 by any chance?
[13:15:39] <Holger> The current code does support A/V (it's also in Debian but not yet in an official release I think).
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[13:16:10] <Holger> No idea about SHA512.  The problem with SHAXXX is precisely the interop foo.
[13:16:42] <gooya> > No idea about SHA512.  The problem with SHAXXX is precisely the interop foo.
could you shorly ellaborate for my dumbass
[13:16:47] <Holger> I mean yes there's nothing wrong with clients implementing it.  But there's no proper path for servers moving from one algorithm to the other.
[13:17:01] <gooya> oh i see
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[13:17:32] <Holger> So yes the result in practice will probably be increasing PLAIN usage.
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[13:17:48] <Holger> Which is a bit meh in that it's quite expensive server-side.
[13:17:52] <gooya> do you suspect clients to move to it eventually? because i saw there is a ticket for implementing sha512 in gajim over a year ago
[13:18:07] <Holger> (I mean calculating SCRAM from PLAIN credentials on the fly.)
[13:18:15] <Holger> gooya: No idea sorry.
[13:19:55] <Holger> Depending on who you ask, it's either bad (terrible!) to store plain-text passwords, or to use PLAIN auth, or to break interop.  Problem is, you can't avoid all three at the same time.
[13:20:34] <gooya> yupp
> Depending on who you ask, it's either bad (terrible!) to store plain-text passwords, or to use PLAIN auth, or to break interop.  Problem is, you can't avoid all three at the same time.
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[13:20:43] <gooya> My problem right now
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[13:21:14] <gooya> Sometimes I wonder where most people use XMPP for except for closed source messaging platforms and game chat servers.
[13:21:40] <gooya> Mine is solely used for family and friends but this seems like quite an exceptional case these days?
[13:22:44] <Holger> Open chat federation is obviously a niche thing, yes.
[13:23:02] <gooya> > Mine is solely used for family and friends but this seems like quite an exceptional case these days?
probably also due to scarcity of good IOS clients. Most IOS clients are quite buggy and have a lot of unsupported features
[13:23:36] <Holger> Things got a _lot_ better compared to 2-3 years ago tho.
[13:23:58] <gooya> Siskin for example doesn't like to stay in the background and thus stops receiving notifications after a while until you manually open it again and sometimes you see notifications but no new chat messages
[13:24:20] <gooya> > Things got a _lot_ better compared to 2-3 years ago tho.
been here for about 2 years so seems like i missed the worst part
[13:24:48] <Holger> Hehe.  Yes back in the days you'd see message loss and whatnot all day long.
[13:25:14] <gooya> the 24th of december will be my 2 year annual celebration of using ejabberd
[13:25:18] <Holger> Siskin requires a non-standard extension for group chat notifications.  I have no problems in 1:1 chats.
[13:25:22] <Holger> Did you try Monal?
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[13:25:42] <gooya> > Siskin requires a non-standard extension for group chat notifications.  I have no problems in 1:1 chats.
> Did you try Monal?
i haven't, is it any better then siskin
[13:26:05] <Holger> It tries harder to work without non-standard extensions.
[13:26:40] <Holger> Which means you'll see notifications with body text on the lock screen (as opposed to just 'New Message'), and it should work with group chat.
[13:26:41] <gooya> > Siskin requires a non-standard extension for group chat notifications.  I have no problems in 1:1 chats.
the problems i was talking about happend in 1:1 chats btw
[13:27:10] <Holger> It doesn't support OMEMO in groups yet, though.  And doesn't have that experimental A/V support Siskin has.
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[13:28:18] <gooya> for me a/v is working great in siskin but sometimes upon hanging up the call the whole client crashes (using an old IOS version)
[13:28:35] <gooya> > gooya: Sounds like something different went wrong then.  Like s2s with their push service or whatever.  That should be debugged.
client is on the same server
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[13:28:54] <Holger> I keep seeing such complaints here and there but no matter how hard I try, I fail to reproduce actual push notification issues with either Monal or Siskin (except for the expected issues I mentioned).
[13:29:29] <Holger> gooya: Your server talks to push.siskin.im (or whatever it was called) to trigger push notifications.
[13:29:56] <Holger> gooya: Double-checking whether that communication looks right would be my first step during debugging.
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[13:32:25] <gooya> > gooya: Your server talks to push.siskin.im (or whatever it was called) to trigger push notifications.
oh that is good to know, gotta check my firewall settings then
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[13:32:42] <Holger> Or just your ejabberd.log :-)
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[13:33:08] <Holger> push.tigase.im (not siskin), BTW.
[13:35:04] <Holger> If you see successful s2s outbound and inbound connections, `ejabberdctl set-loglevel debug`, then send a test message to an offline Siskin user, then show the log entries that seem related (maybe me in private).
[13:35:04] <gooya> so after sending a message to a siskin client i should see in ejabberd.log a log of the ip or domain name itself
[13:35:54] <gooya> okay will try and send you the results
> If you see successful s2s outbound and inbound connections, `ejabberdctl set-loglevel debug`, then send a test message to an offline Siskin user, then show the log entries that seem related (maybe me in private).
[13:35:59] <Holger> Yes `fgrep push.tigase.im ejabberd.log` should show outbound and inbound s2s connections.
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[13:57:14] <Licaon_Kter> gooya:
> Siskin for example doesn't like to stay in the background and thus stops receiving notifications after a while until you manually open it again and sometimes you see notifications but no new chat messages
Apple doesn't like apps to stay in background, so it kills them.
[13:58:07] <Holger> Yeah.  But Apple should still display notifications on the lock screen.
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[14:40:23] <gooya> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/9012b254356e262f969c54abdb7ea4296bec7ec8/ei8Nh3eR7YaGEQVBd3CLW6oi6HsTQllI5sPp8zYt/i7Hs14TYS-2Gd2fdoV8LHQ.jpg
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[14:40:45] <gooya> this is the error that the client sees upon enabling push notifications
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[14:42:57] <gooya> and in the log I also see "closing inbound s2s connection IP -> mydomain.ltd: connection failed: connection closed (not the push.tigase.im but another server i try to contact to) I can send unencrypted messages but omemo errors while fetching omemo key
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[14:44:01] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: better report the undefined-condition here xmpp:tigase@muc.tigase.org?join or on github, you permit s2s to that push server, right?
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[14:44:39] <gooya> I did not specify any block or deny to that server no
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[14:44:44] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: the omemo issue...depends...which other server? https://compliance.conversations.im says it supports XEP-0384 ?
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[14:45:10] <gooya> but i also suddenly see the same closing inbound s2s when connecting to other servers like 404.city
[14:45:15] <gooya> really weird..
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[14:46:00] <gooya> Can i message someone here privately to see if it's only 404.city or all others aswell (as i suspect)
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[14:46:42] <gooya> > gooya: better report the undefined-condition here xmpp:tigase@muc.tigase.org?join or on github, you permit s2s to that push server, right?
i will after checking if s2s is working in general, seems like i screwed something up?
[14:47:08] <Licaon_Kter> gooya:
`s2s_timeout: infinity`
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[14:47:24] <gooya> yes will set that option now
> gooya:
> `s2s_timeout: infinity`
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[14:47:36] <Licaon_Kter> But that message is not an error:
> and in the log I also see "closing inbound s2s connection IP -> mydomain.ltd: connection failed: connection closed (not the push.tigase.im but another server i try to contact to) I can send unencrypted messages but omemo errors while fetching omemo key
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[14:47:44] <Licaon_Kter> But that message is not an error:
> and in the log I also see "closing inbound s2s connection IP -> mydomain.ltd: connection failed: connection closed
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[14:48:15] <gooya> how is it not? it says connection failed: connection closed for multiple s2s addresses
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[14:51:45] <gooya> > gooya: the omemo issue...depends...which other server? https://compliance.conversations.im says it supports XEP-0384 ?
pretty sure 404.city supports XEP-0384, using latest version of conversations for both clients
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[14:52:25] <Holger> Well it's not a problem per se that the remote server closes the connection.  ejabberd servers will do that by default if the connection has been idle for a while.  In the ejabberd case you should see a slightly different message though.
[14:53:08] <Holger> > Closing inbound s2s connection remote.example.com -> local.example.com: Stream closed by peer: Idle connection (connection-timeout)
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[14:54:36] <Holger> Maybe you'll end up with the above if older versions are involved.
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[14:58:48] <gooya> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/9012b254356e262f969c54abdb7ea4296bec7ec8/XPATKxmYXgKSNUO6G4YRCXcOSOFCMv3oCFVWVMEE/yiwfMiC5TZiV2o2MowOHvg.jpg
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[14:59:14] <gooya> this happens everytime i try to send a message to a user from a different server
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[14:59:44] <gooya> omemo does not fetch omemo key, however unencrypted message are received and send correctly
[15:00:09] <gooya> I also can't see if the user from a different server is online eventhough they enabled this
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[15:01:28] <Holger> Ok yes the fact that the connection is closed _immediately_ looks wrong of course.
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[15:01:41] <Holger> Do you have `mod_s2s_dialback: {}` in your list of modules?
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[15:02:18] <gooya> i have
> Ok yes the fact that the connection is closed _immediately_ looks wrong of course.
> Do you have `mod_s2s_dialback: {}` in your list of modules?
[15:03:18] <gooya> Holger: Do you mind sharing your JID so i can see if this is the case with all s2s?
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[15:03:46] <Holger> gooya: holger@jabber.fu-berlin.de
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[15:04:22] <Holger> gooya: Oh if you want to test OMEMO specifically, holger@conversations.im (I block OMEMO on my primary JID).
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[15:09:12] <gooya> i contacted you on your primary JID do you receive anything?
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[15:13:10] <Holger> gooya: Yes.  Your outgoing connections work, but incoming don't.
[15:13:25] <Holger> gooya: Your side closes the connection immediately.
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[15:13:36] <Holger> Or not immediately but upon receiving any data.
[15:13:45] <gooya> that's really weird
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[15:13:50] <gooya> never had this before
[15:13:53] <Holger> gooya: Try `telnet example.com 5269`, type <whatever/>.
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[15:14:18] <gooya> > gooya: Try `telnet example.com 5269`, type <whatever/>.
same machine as the ejabberd server or different one?
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[15:14:44] <Holger> Doesn't matter.
[15:14:49] <Holger> Just to show you the problem.
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[15:18:45] <gooya> syntax error near unexpected token newline
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[15:21:09] <Holger> Problem seems solved.
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[15:23:32] <gooya> my stupid ass had both s2s_use_starttls: required, and tls:true in the s2s inbound listening option :facepalm:
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[15:23:55] <gooya> due to merging different config's and playing around
[15:24:10] <gooya> had to check old config of a few months old to find out
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[15:26:07] <gooya> now i can get back to the push.tigase.im issue and this might be the cause for that
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[15:30:40] <gooya> > now i can get back to the push.tigase.im issue and this might be the cause for that
seems to be solved as well :-)
[15:30:57] <gooya> Thank you for assisting
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[15:31:47] <gooya> Eventhough it was a simple stupid mistake, i still learned alot about debugging and error solving
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