Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, December 18, 2021< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[10:21:38] <pep.> hi there
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[10:24:12] <pep.> Do I understand correctly that the last update was supposed to fix the LE/openssl issue? Or whateve version edhelas has
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[10:24:39] <pep.> I tried removing dialback/closing s2s, and I still get « edhelas@movim.eu: cancel: Server-to-server connection failed: not-authorized: certificate has expired »
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[10:24:59] <pep.> (maybe it's me then.. I'll go check before somebody answers)
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[10:32:50] <Licaon_Kter> pep.: still getting the same, for movim.eu
No ejabberd update helps since it's not its fault
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[10:35:33] <pep.> So I can just poke edhelas to update his OS? (poke)
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[10:36:48] <Licaon_Kter> Then again, I did not force the isrgroot root in my certs...so maybe that would fix it?
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[10:36:57] <Licaon_Kter> Then again, I did not force the isrgroot root/intermediary in my certs...so maybe that would fix it?
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[12:10:08] <MattJ> I know certain  ejabberd developers disagree with this stance, though :)
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[12:25:28] <Holger> I don't know.  One chain depends on an expired root certificate, the other doesn't.  In the case where the admin has both root certificates in his CA bundle, the question whether it works depends on whether or not the TLS client's PKI code chooses the new of the two possible chains despite the server offering the old one.  If PKI somehow mandates the TLS client to work this way (does it?), then LE's current setup is not broken and it's the TLS client's fault indeed.
OpenSSL has a flag to control the behavior (`X509_V_FLAG_TRUSTED_FIRST`) which is always set since 1.1.0, so yes most users don't stumble over the problem.  But OpenSSL 1.1.0+ is not the only PKI software in use.
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[12:28:31] <Holger> My common sense would tell me that (1) `X509_V_FLAG_TRUSTED_FIRST` is probably the sane client behavior indeed and (2) either way, LE's stunt is terrible.
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[20:36:55] <diego> 'LE' as in Let's Encrypt?
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[20:37:07] <Holger> Yes.
[20:37:07] <pep.> Yes
[20:37:14] <diego> I knew it
[20:37:19] <diego> What did they do?
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[20:56:04] <Holger> Initially, they had their CA cert cross-signed by an external root cert, as a temporary solution until their own root cert ends up in CA bundles.  The external root cert expired in September.  In the meantime they did end up in most bundles, but obviously some players with enough say/money were unhappy that Android 4 would break, so LE ended up still offering the old chain that relies on the expired root by default via ACME.
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[20:56:26] <Holger> https://letsencrypt.org/2020/12/21/extending-android-compatibility.html
[20:56:26] <Zash> Short version: A mess.
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[21:58:50] <diego> I wonder if that's what caused my ejabberd server to reject LE certificates
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[22:19:48] <Amolith> How would I go about figuring out what's causing some people on other servers to get a `connection failed: connection closed` error when sending a message to users on my server?
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