Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, May 16, 2022< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[08:41:40] <raver> Holger, unfortunately I Can't use your installer. It requires root permissions which differs from the official one. On my ejabberd Server I'm just a regular user and install it without root permissions. But Thanks for your help :)
[08:43:02] <Holger> raver: Hrm!  I was wondering back and forth whether to support that case.  I sympathize a lot with non-root installations myself but was assuming I'm the only one.  Now that's the very first feedback I get, heh.
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[08:44:57] <Holger> The downside of making it more flexible is that upgrades would be more fragile.  I.e. it becomes really hard to do the right thing if the admin chooses different settings for the new installation on upgrade.
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[08:46:17] <Holger> badlop: Non-root installations and custom installation paths is still something I could add very easily if there's more demand, FWIW.
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[08:46:47] <Holger> ... as long as we just ignore possible upgrade issues, that is.
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[08:49:27] <raver> Holger, indeed it is more fragile, you have to take care that all parameters led to the "old" way right?
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[08:50:38] <raver> Holger, what about releasing separate scripts?
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[08:58:11] <badlop> yes,  it's worth looking
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[08:58:14] <Holger> Dunno, too much choice goes against the "keep it simple" idea as well I guess.
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[08:58:22] <Holger> I'll have another look at the script.
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[09:00:21] <Holger> I think the old installer simply didn't bother with trying to install a systemd unit (or init script) itself.  Which simplified things a bit.
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[15:17:28] <Holger> raver, there's a new `-2` installer on <https://ejabberd.messaging.one/download/> that supports non-root installation.
[15:17:43] <Holger> raver, in case you try it, let us know whether it does the trick for you.
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[15:36:55] <user1> hey everyone, i have a question: when i set mod_muc/hosts: ["@HOST@"] i get an erro when trying to reload
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[15:37:21] <user1> ejabberd Failed to reuse route because it's already registered on a virtual
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[15:38:06] <badlop> if you tell the MUC service to use the same address than your XMPP servier --> conflict
[15:38:10] <user1> does that mean i cannot use my domain.tld for mucs with ejabberd ? .. ie i have to have conference.domain.tld ?
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[15:38:49] <Holger> Yes you need a separate (sub)domain for groupchat.  Doesn't have to be "conference.".
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[15:39:54] <Holger> Technically this requirement _could_ be dropped in theory, but you'd have namespace issues as to whether foo@ is an account vs. a room name and whatnot.
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[15:40:29] <user1> im coming from dino so i guess at chat@dino.im they have dino.im as their muc domain and somethingelsedino.im as there users domain ?
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[15:41:01] <Holger> Maybe, plus I think they're using Prosody which does support a mixed setup.
[15:41:11] <user1> ah
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[15:41:21] <Zash> For some value of "support"
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[15:41:43] <user1> would it be horribly imposible to have this in ejbard too ?
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[15:41:52] <user1> *ejabberd
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[15:42:58] <Holger> Yes 🙂
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[15:43:37] <badlop> i wonder what Kant would say if different objects share the same name
[15:44:18] <Holger> user1, it's about cosmetics I guess?
[15:44:29] <user1> yes
[15:44:32] <Holger> Modern clients should hide the room address anyway 😛
[15:44:39] <user1> ye
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[15:44:44] <Holger> Ok not really for _public_ rooms.
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[15:49:39] <user1> it is really not a big deal, my context is i have a bunch of users that i trust to have room making permissions but because room making is a little bit esoteric (at least in dino, havnt checked convertsations yet) its basically not really possible to have my users make rooms ad hoc (they are boomers etc)
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[15:51:12] <user1> il just make the needed rooms myself and someday in the future maybe write a patch to make it stupidly easy in the clients or maybe someone else will beat me to it
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[16:02:21] <Holger> Dunno about Dino but it _is_ easy in at least Conversations (for private groups the user isn't bothered with the room JID).
[16:03:12] <Holger> Create group -> give it some _name_ -> click contacts to invite.  Something like that.
[16:03:56] <user1> yea il check it out sometime, dont have a physical smartphone phone myself and i dont bother spinning up the emulator if i dont really need to, ty anyway
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[16:08:31] <Holger> raver, now there's a `-3` version with another few (hopefully) purely cosmetic changes.
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[16:12:55] <raver> Holger: of course, I'll check now. But I see a -3 installer too should I use that one?
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[16:13:15] <raver> Ignore the last message😀
[16:14:24] <Holger> 🙂
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[16:15:55] <Holger> So it just requires ~1.5k lines of shell script to produce a few portable binary packages \o/
[16:16:14] <Holger> Must be so boring if you're doing Go/Rust and get away with a single command.  What do you do with the rest of the day?
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[16:19:35] <raver> Holger, the Installer works. But differs a little bit from the original one.
what was a little bit confusing in the first place, was the info that two separate installation folder's were used, If you like you could add an explanation for the ejabberd folder, that it contains the conf/database/folder structure
[16:19:54] <Holger> badlop, seems Makeself would also support handing over command line flags following `--` to the setup script, like `ejabberd-22.05.run -- --prefix=$HOME/opt` or whatever.  But meh.
[16:20:36] <Holger> raver, the ProcessOne binaries always worked that way though.
[16:20:46] <Holger> Well "always" == "for the past few years".
[16:20:49] <raver> I'll try how to convert the old directory Structure:
ll ~/share/ejabberd-21.12/
insgesamt 6028
drwxrwxr-x.  2 raver7 raver7    4096 14. Dez 18:23 bin
lrwxrwxrwx.  1 raver7 raver7      25 14. Dez 18:25 conf -> /home/raver7/etc/ejabberd
drwxr-x---.  2 raver7 raver7     119 14. Dez 18:23 conf.orig
drwxr-xr-x.  4 raver7 raver7      63 14. Dez 18:31 database
drwxr-x---.  3 raver7 raver7     140 14. Dez 18:23 doc
drwxr-xr-x. 54 raver7 raver7    4096 14. Dez 18:23 lib
lrwxrwxrwx.  1 raver7 raver7      17 14. Dez 18:25 logs -> /home/raver7/logs
drwxr-xr-x.  2 raver7 raver7      79 14. Dez 18:25 logs.orig
-rwx------.  1 raver7 raver7 6136302 14. Dez 18:25 uninstall
-rw-------.  1 raver7 raver7   24397 14. Dez 18:25 uninstall.dat
[16:20:51] <Holger> But yeah.
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[16:21:01] <Holger> Oh?
[16:21:08] <Holger> How did you install ejabberd before?
[16:21:25] <raver> the process one installer installs everything into the prefix/ejabberd folder
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[16:22:08] <raver> via the process-one .run file
[16:22:17] <raver> with prefix=~/share
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[16:22:32] <raver> then I rename the folder to ejabberd-version and symlink to my locations
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[16:22:36] <Holger> Oh!  Maybe it was just the DEB/RPM installers then.
[16:22:37] <Holger> I only did it this way for backwards compatibility 😂  Sigh.
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[16:23:04] <Holger> Then again maybe there's some (support) value in having .run and .deb/.rpm behave the same way.
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[16:23:23] <raver> absolutely :)
[16:23:44] <raver> it even would make switching easier I guess
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[16:28:00] <raver> Holger, what's that erts-12.3.2 folder?
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[16:28:22] <Holger> raver, hah the behavior of the old installer depends on whether you're installing with root privileges.  If you do it behaves like the new one.  If you don't, I end up with $prefix/ejabberd-21.12/conf.
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[16:28:42] <raver> :)
[16:28:43] <Holger> So I just wasn't aware of that special non-root behavior.
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[16:29:01] <Holger> Whatever, might make sense to add a note, yes.
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[16:29:23] <Holger> raver, erts-$version contains the actual Erlang VM ("Erlang Run Time System").
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[16:30:43] <Holger> raver, just in case that wasn't obvious, the idea of the separation is that the `ejabberd-$version` folder contains nothing but code, i.e. you can wipe it on upgrade.  Vs. the data in `ejabberd`.
[16:30:47] <raver> ah I see, in the process-one installer it is included in the ejabberd/bin folder it seems
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[16:31:25] <Holger> raver, yeah, that was a self-baked solution 🙂  `erts-$version` is what you end up with when using the standard Erlang build tools (which I do for building those packages).
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[16:32:09] <raver> I see, but how do you know the ejabberd-version folder to use from within the ejabberd folder?
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[16:32:38] <Holger> There should be nothing in the ejabberd folder that needs to be aware of the version.
[16:32:39] <raver> ll -d ~/share/ejabberd*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 raver7 raver7  33 14. Dez 18:25 /home/raver7/share/ejabberd -> /home/raver7/share/ejabberd-21.12
drwxrwxr-x. 8 raver7 raver7 151 14. Dez 18:25 /home/raver7/share/ejabberd-21.12
drwx------. 9 raver7 raver7 124 16. Mai 18:26 /home/raver7/share/ejabberd-22.05
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[16:33:14] <Holger> Well that's you creating symlinks for backwards compat or something?
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[16:33:42] <raver> yes, I'll check if everything is working with the new version
[16:33:50] <raver> and delete the old folder after a while
[16:34:08] <Holger> I guess you have some custom method for starting/controlling ejabberd?  _That_ might need to be made aware of the version.
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[16:34:31] <raver> yes, on uberspace you have supervisorctl
[16:34:32] <Holger> That's a problem you don't have when installing as root, where the systemd unit is updated automagically.
[16:34:52] <Holger> Ah, I was guessing Uberspace.
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[16:35:27] <Holger> They seem to be really nice but I'd be too lazy to jump through hoops for running services there 😉
[16:35:40] <raver> https://termbin.com/g3iu
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[16:36:28] <Holger> Right, so you'd need some way to point to the new ejabberdctl version on upgrade.
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[16:37:25] <Holger> Or some fancy wrapper which searches ~/share/ for the most recent version on-the-fly 😉
[16:37:46] <raver> I'll play with symlinks first :)
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[16:38:12] <Holger> But then you need to update _those_ 🙂
[16:38:21] <Holger> Whatever works!
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[16:39:44] <Holger> But yes that kind of setup is certainly not the main use case I had in mind.  The idea was "simple/robust rather than flexible".
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[16:41:13] <Holger> I actually install ejabberd into the home directory of some `xmpp` user as well, but I build from source, and then it's straightforward.
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[16:41:42] <raver> nevermind, the manual steps are not very complex nor time consuming. Glad you've done that job :)
[16:41:58] <Holger> (`./configure && make && make rel && mv rel/ejabberd $HOME/server`)
[16:42:37] <raver> hmm maybe I should give this a try :)
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[16:44:32] <Holger> And then I have a weird ejabberdctl wrapper in `~/bin` which (a) calls `sudo systemd ...` if necessary (i.e. could call your Uberspace thing instead), and (b) points to `~/etc` for configuration (where I then specify the remaining paths for logging and whatnot).
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[16:44:54] <Holger> ```
case $1 in
start|stop|restart)
        exec sudo systemctl "$1" ejabberd.service
        ;;
start-service|stop-service) # We're called from systemd(1).
        set ${1%-service}
        ;;
esac
exec "$prefix/server/bin/ejabberdctl" \
        --config-dir "$prefix/etc"    \
        --no-timeout "$@"
```
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[16:46:33] <Holger> (And (c) specifies `--no-timeout` which we should just do upstream!)
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[16:59:22] <Holger> ```
The following installation paths will be used:
- /home/holger/opt/ejabberd-22.05
- /home/holger/opt/ejabberd (for configuration, database, and log files)
```
raver, maybe like this?
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[17:04:45] <raver> Holger, perfekt :)
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[17:05:08] <raver> !version rimkus.it
[17:05:09] <Servant> raver: rimkus.it is running ejabberd version 22.5.0.
[17:05:33] <raver> Holger, and new version is working :) thx Holger
[17:05:48] <Holger> Cool, thank you for the feedback.
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[17:09:02] <raver> just fyi, if you're Running the bot from magicbroccoli
I enhanced it a bit including localization and OMEMO support https://gitlab.rimkus.it/xmpp/xmpp-chatbot
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[18:21:26] <raver> Seems so, iirc he's moved to other focuses😊 I just did it for fun and some motivation from  gooya 😀
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[18:34:58] <gooya> Don't forget to mention the bot also speaks dutch now :)
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[18:50:38] <Silvio> Hi everyone, can anybody tell me what's the difference between docker.io/ejabberd/ecs and ghcr.io/processone/ejabberd?
They're both based on alpine and run as non-root, however they use different user ids and paths. Also, they seem to come with a different set of libraries. They're both endorsed by the README, but the intended difference is not clear to me.
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[19:25:07] <raver> Holger: one thing I've accidentally stumbled on the installer. The y/n question accepts all characters and I entered the prefix path in the question for the path. Maybe it would be better to loop the question until y or n or empty(default) was entered
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[19:51:44] <Holger> raver: Good point, fixed.
```
Install ejabberd below /home/holger/opt? (y/n) [n] maybe
Please respond with "y" or "n".
Install ejabberd below /home/holger/opt? (y/n) [n]
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[19:52:22] <Zash> 'maybe' should result in a coin flip
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[19:52:41] <Zash> yes
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[19:53:09] <Holger> Agreed.
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