Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, May 18, 2022< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[00:00:14] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:00:17] suren joins the room
[00:00:38] kinetik leaves the room
[00:00:45] kinetik joins the room
[00:00:45] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
[00:00:45] JuniorJPDJ_ joins the room
[00:01:02] mimi89999 leaves the room
[00:01:59] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:02:37] djx leaves the room
[00:02:38] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:02:43] pablo leaves the room
[00:03:08] chrys leaves the room
[00:04:22] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:04:40] ave joins the room
[00:05:33] ffunk joins the room
[00:06:53] nik joins the room
[00:07:28] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:07:34] ffunk leaves the room
[00:09:30] mwlczk (aka marek) leaves the room
[00:09:58] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:10:52] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:10:57] ffunk joins the room
[00:11:38] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:12:07] chrys joins the room
[00:12:19] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:13:28] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:13:32] suren joins the room
[00:20:11] alan leaves the room
[00:21:35] kinetik leaves the room
[00:23:06] pablo joins the room
[00:23:48] ta leaves the room
[00:28:46] gooya leaves the room
[00:29:00] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:29:03] suren joins the room
[00:33:10] paul joins the room
[00:35:16] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:35:28] kinetik joins the room
[00:36:38] ta joins the room
[00:37:11] mightyBroccoli leaves the room
[00:37:11] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
[00:37:12] JuniorJPDJ_ joins the room
[00:39:14] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:40:15] stp leaves the room
[00:40:27] Amolith leaves the room
[00:41:18] henrik leaves the room
[00:41:41] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:41:55] henrik joins the room
[00:42:53] henrik leaves the room
[00:42:59] gooya joins the room
[00:43:05] henrik joins the room
[00:43:45] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:44:32] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:45:47] doctor leaves the room
[00:45:49] doctor joins the room
[00:45:55] SouL joins the room
[00:46:59] kryptos joins the room
[00:47:21] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:47:52] Ramiro Romani leaves the room
[00:48:06] Ramiro Romani joins the room
[00:48:33] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:49:11] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:49:23] kapad leaves the room
[00:49:38] kapad joins the room
[00:51:46] mightyBroccoli joins the room
[00:52:02] Mike leaves the room
[00:52:02] Mike joins the room
[00:52:02] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
[00:52:03] JuniorJPDJ_ joins the room
[00:54:56] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[00:55:47] kapad leaves the room
[00:55:50] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[00:55:53] kapad joins the room
[00:57:00] kapad leaves the room
[00:57:03] kapad joins the room
[00:58:25] kapad leaves the room
[00:58:25] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
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[00:58:35] kapad joins the room
[00:59:53] kapad leaves the room
[00:59:55] kapad joins the room
[01:01:42] pablo leaves the room
[01:03:54] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:05:05] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:09:41] admin joins the room
[01:09:42] chrys leaves the room
[01:12:20] alacer leaves the room
[01:14:29] alacer joins the room
[01:15:14] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[01:15:31] Mike leaves the room
[01:16:21] kapad leaves the room
[01:16:32] kapad joins the room
[01:17:32] Mike joins the room
[01:18:37] kapad leaves the room
[01:18:44] kryptos leaves the room
[01:19:06] kapad joins the room
[01:22:50] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:23:19] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:25:08] Ramiro Romani leaves the room
[01:30:43] Ramiro Romani joins the room
[01:30:48] raucao leaves the room
[01:31:10] dos leaves the room
[01:31:15] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:32:44] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:33:14] agates joins the room
[01:34:38] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:35:44] djx joins the room
[01:37:30] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:38:37] djx leaves the room
[01:41:46] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:43:27] pprrks joins the room
[01:44:24] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[01:44:43] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:45:51] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:47:15] Amolith leaves the room
[01:47:46] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:50:28] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:50:43] agates joins the room
[01:51:05] alacer leaves the room
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[01:51:54] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:51:54] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
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[01:53:56] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:54:39] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:54:42] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:55:05] paul leaves the room
[01:56:05] dos joins the room
[01:59:00] Amolith joins the room
[01:59:39] pprrks joins the room
[02:01:32] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[02:02:06] kapad leaves the room
[02:02:12] coockie leaves the room: Disconnected: closed
[02:04:12] jadmanthrat leaves the room
[02:10:01] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
[02:10:02] JuniorJPDJ_ joins the room
[02:10:12] ta leaves the room
[02:13:08] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[02:13:42] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[02:14:43] dima leaves the room
[02:19:17] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[02:19:51] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[02:22:23] alacer leaves the room
[02:23:19] dima leaves the room
[02:23:55] pablo joins the room
[02:29:01] dos leaves the room
[02:29:31] dos joins the room
[02:29:31] ta joins the room
[02:30:01] dos leaves the room
[02:30:26] alacer joins the room
[02:35:07] dos leaves the room
[02:36:29] ij joins the room
[02:40:52] dima joins the room
[02:42:52] nand leaves the room
[02:42:53] nand joins the room
[02:43:29] ij leaves the room
[02:44:59] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:48:06] kryptos joins the room
[02:49:06] marc leaves the room
[02:49:28] pprrks joins the room
[02:49:34] marc joins the room
[02:49:51] dima leaves the room
[02:50:21] Frank joins the room
[02:50:56] agates joins the room
[02:51:52] dima joins the room
[02:53:45] alan leaves the room
[02:54:28] Silvio leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[02:55:15] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[02:55:25] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:57:19] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[03:01:45] andrey.g leaves the room
[03:01:58] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[03:05:06] pprrks joins the room
[03:10:17] alacer leaves the room
[03:13:27] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[03:13:31] alacer joins the room
[03:15:10] alan joins the room
[03:25:03] spiral leaves the room
[03:25:12] Mike leaves the room
[03:25:39] spiral joins the room
[03:27:22] pablo leaves the room
[03:27:29] henrik leaves the room
[03:28:38] henrik joins the room
[03:29:26] phoebos joins the room
[03:29:34] alan leaves the room
[03:29:57] phoebos leaves the room
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[03:30:50] ij joins the room
[03:35:11] phoebos leaves the room
[03:35:27] pod joins the room
[03:36:40] phoebos joins the room
[03:37:07] ij leaves the room
[03:37:37] dima leaves the room
[03:37:40] dima joins the room
[03:38:53] phoebos leaves the room
[03:43:25] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[03:44:10] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[03:44:24] ff joins the room
[03:49:57] alan joins the room
[03:55:04] robert_mobil joins the room
[03:56:18] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[03:56:43] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[03:56:47] kryptos leaves the room
[04:00:40] abba joins the room
[04:03:56] bowlofeggs joins the room
[04:04:32] bowlofeggs leaves the room
[04:06:57] bowlofeggs joins the room
[04:07:28] sander joins the room
[04:08:15] twl leaves the room
[04:08:21] thomas leaves the room
[04:08:51] bowlofeggs leaves the room
[04:09:55] dima joins the room
[04:14:16] alan leaves the room
[04:15:28] bowlofeggs joins the room
[04:15:56] Licaon_Kter leaves the room
[04:16:04] bowlofeggs leaves the room
[04:18:23] spla joins the room
[04:18:50] spla leaves the room
[04:18:52] spla joins the room
[04:22:35] robert_mobil joins the room
[04:23:12] robert_mobil leaves the room
[04:25:31] admin leaves the room
[04:27:22] writer77 joins the room
[04:27:33] pod joins the room
[04:29:51] bowlofeggs joins the room
[04:30:27] bowlofeggs leaves the room
[04:31:12] robert_mobil joins the room
[04:37:03] paul joins the room
[04:39:16] Licaon_Kter joins the room
[04:41:53] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[04:42:41] raver joins the room
[04:43:26] Ericounet joins the room
[04:45:18] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[04:47:21] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[04:48:06] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[04:48:30] Sando leaves the room
[04:49:40] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[04:51:27] agates joins the room
[04:51:39] dcuba.ar admin joins the room
[04:53:38] ij joins the room
[04:53:54] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[04:54:07] alan joins the room
[04:55:01] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[04:55:48] admin joins the room
[04:55:57] debalance joins the room
[04:59:34] Ericounet leaves the room
[04:59:59] ij leaves the room
[05:00:16] ij joins the room
[05:01:30] pine joins the room
[05:02:12] Jeroen joins the room
[05:02:51] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[05:02:52] Jeroen leaves the room
[05:04:49] robert_mobil leaves the room
[05:07:21] danielepiccoli joins the room
[05:07:21] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
[05:07:22] JuniorJPDJ_ joins the room
[05:07:31] djx joins the room
[05:07:40] alan leaves the room
[05:08:06] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[05:08:33] dcuba.ar admin leaves the room
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[05:08:51] abba leaves the room
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[05:12:27] danielepiccoli leaves the room
[05:14:07] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[05:14:35] Jeroen joins the room
[05:16:06] Jeroen leaves the room
[05:16:28] agates joins the room
[05:16:44] ij joins the room
[05:16:57] pablo joins the room
[05:18:18] jadmanthrat joins the room
[05:26:23] danielepiccoli joins the room
[05:27:18] karme joins the room
[05:28:05] spiral leaves the room
[05:28:12] spiral leaves the room
[05:28:47] agates joins the room
[05:32:15] spiral joins the room
[05:32:15] spiral joins the room
[05:35:41] alan leaves the room
[05:36:50] hlad leaves the room
[05:37:02] hlad joins the room
[05:37:04] hlad leaves the room
[05:38:50] Tim joins the room
[05:39:16] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[05:40:43] pitchum joins the room
[05:44:17] marc36 joins the room
[05:46:00] robert_mobil joins the room
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[05:46:54] djx leaves the room
[05:46:57] Jeroen joins the room
[05:47:09] Jeroen leaves the room
[05:47:48] ij leaves the room
[05:47:49] robert_mobil joins the room
[05:48:37] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[05:49:05] robert_mobil leaves the room
[05:49:10] Thomas Lewis joins the room
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[05:49:56] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[05:50:26] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[05:52:44] Jeroen joins the room
[05:52:46] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[05:53:12] Jeroen leaves the room
[05:54:55] kikuchiyo leaves the room
[05:55:45] Dom leaves the room
[05:55:50] Dom joins the room
[05:57:21] pprrks joins the room
[06:00:09] Jeroen joins the room
[06:00:37] Jeroen leaves the room
[06:03:03] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[06:03:11] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[06:03:54] pablo leaves the room
[06:03:55] marc36 leaves the room
[06:06:27] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[06:06:35] pablo joins the room
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[06:08:36] marc36 joins the room
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[06:09:00] dima leaves the room
[06:09:12] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[06:09:40] eevvoor leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[06:10:56] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[06:11:21] danielepiccoli leaves the room
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[06:11:51] pablo leaves the room
[06:13:36] ffunk leaves the room
[06:14:37] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[06:16:07] Zash joins the room
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[06:18:33] kikuchiyo joins the room
[06:19:08] pipo10 joins the room
[06:21:27] schäfchen726 joins the room
[06:21:53] qy leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[06:26:25] Jeroen joins the room
[06:26:29] Ramiro Romani leaves the room
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[06:26:53] ffunk joins the room
[06:27:17] Dom leaves the room
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[06:30:00] kikuchiyo leaves the room
[06:30:12] Ramiro Romani joins the room
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[06:31:53] hlad leaves the room
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[06:35:08] Jeroen leaves the room
[06:35:53] raver joins the room
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[06:39:01] henrik leaves the room
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[06:42:58] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[06:43:52] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[06:51:12] Alexander joins the room
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[06:51:31] pep. leaves the room
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[07:04:12] spla leaves the room
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[07:07:00] Ericounet joins the room
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[09:04:02] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
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[12:52:50] <ffunk> Hello everyone,congrats from me too.Just upgraded and so far I can confirm pushes for MUC working as expected.Thanks for outstanding job on whole ejabberd project!
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[12:54:22] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: packaging trouble?
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[12:58:32] <Holger> ffunk, thanks for the feedback 👍️
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[12:59:06] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, you mean #3818?  Yeah sounds like the `-mnesia` directory changed somehow.  I'll have a look.
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[13:00:45] <Licaon_Kter> 👍
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[13:05:17] <Holger> Ah yes I see the problem.
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[13:09:27] <Holger> badlop: Seems the old binary packages used `/opt/ejabberd/database/ejabberd@example.com` as the Mnesia directory. Where `example.com` is the virtual domain, which the DEB/RPM packages auto-guessed on installation. Isn't that weirdo? I mean an Mnesia DB isn't per-domain, you might configure multiple domains, and the auto-guessed one may be wrong.
[13:10:04] <Holger> Anyway that's meh of course, breaks upgrades for all Mnesia users. Wasn't aware 😕
[13:10:05] <pchmielowski> it's per erlang node name
[13:10:12] <Holger> Oh.
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[13:10:28] <Holger> Ok yes that works better.
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[13:11:10] <Holger> Guess it makes most sense to update the new packages accordingly then. I'll try to look into it today.
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[13:15:37] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe don't host the packages until fixed?
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[13:17:48] <Holger> Admins can mess around to fix it, so it's not like data is lost.
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[13:21:39] <Licaon_Kter> Reporter there said they lost the data
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[13:21:53] <Holger> Yes because we didn't tell 'em how to recover yet 🙂
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[13:22:12] <pchmielowski> data is still there, just ejabberd is not looking where it should for it
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[13:22:38] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, _this one wierd trick to recover from mnesi_
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[13:22:45] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, _this one wierd trick to recover from mnesia_
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[13:22:50] <Holger> I'm looking _now_.  Don't panic 😂️
[13:23:19] <Licaon_Kter> _ejabberd has mnesia and forgets where its mnesia was_
[13:23:53] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Exactly.
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[13:55:14] <Holger> badlop, pchmielowski: The packages are currently just sticking to the `make rel` default, which is `{{release_dir}}/database`.  Question is: Change that default in `vars.config.in` so that it affects `make rel` as well, or just in `make-binaries`?
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[13:55:51] <Holger> (In theory it could also be changed directly in `ejabberdctl` and would then affect `make install` as well, but that would break existing setups the other way round.)
[13:57:19] <Holger> I still don't quite get the point of the ERLANG_NODE subdirectory in the first place, BTW.  If it's about supporting multiple ejabberd instances on a single system, that would also require separate configuration (and log) directories, no?
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[13:58:53] <Holger> So unless you scream the opposite, I'll just have `make-binaries` edit the default, for compat with the old binary packages.  We could still apply the change for all `make rel` builds later.
[13:59:27] <pchmielowski> i think this is reasonable
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[14:11:25] <Holger> OTP 25 released: https://erlang.org/news/157
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[14:13:30] <pchmielowski> yes, maybe expressions looks interesting
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[14:13:56] <Holger> Yeah, I had seen the EEP before and thought it looked useful indeed.
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[15:12:55] <Holger> badlop, pchielowski, fixed `make-binaries` in `master`.  To rebuild:
```
git pull
cp tools/make-* /tmp
git checkout 22.05
cp /tmp/make-* tools/
tools/make-installers -i 2 && tools/make-packages -i 2
```
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[15:51:34] <badlop> ok
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[16:04:39] <badlop> done https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/releases/tag/22.05
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[16:56:22] <Holger> Cool, thanks!
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[17:17:21] <rom1dep> > OTP 25 released
Is it type safe? ^^
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[17:18:24] <Holger> rom1dep: https://gleam.run 🙂
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[17:19:30] <Holger> There's also a Haskell-style and an OCaml-style thing, and others. But less popular than Gleam.
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[17:20:50] <rom1dep> I remember we discussed gleam a while ago
[17:21:08] <Holger> You can't _really_ make the thing type-safe if you want to keep support for hot code reloading and distribution anyway.  And type-safety forces you to do channels or some other means of explicitly setting up message passing which is meh in its own ways.
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[17:21:25] <Holger> But Gleam tries to get as far as you can.
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[17:22:33] <rom1dep> I wonder if the tooling situation has improved since
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[17:23:14] <Holger> In Gleam?
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[17:23:18] <rom1dep> Yep
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[17:23:36] <Holger> Basically does the trick for me, but not sure what you're looking for 🙂
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[17:24:02] <Holger> Doesn't really have a knob for building a deployable package yet, but I think they're almost there.
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[17:26:30] <rom1dep> IDE, debuggers, the glue to interop with preexisting stuff written in other langs, etc
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[17:27:12] <Holger> You'd use Erlang for glueing.
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[17:27:37] <Holger> Yes IDEs are always problematic for niche languages I guess, but no idea, I don't use them.
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[17:28:31] <Holger> You'd use the usual Erlang tools for tracing. There's a traditional debugger but you never need that due to the way the language works.
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[17:29:09] <Holger> But yes then I have an idea of the environment you're looking for, it's definitely not Java, heh.
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[17:30:07] <Holger> And definitely not as far as Erlang is.
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[17:35:35] <raver> > But yes then I have an idea of the environment you're looking for, it's definitely not Java, heh.
Maybe it's Kotlin then 😀
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[17:41:43] <rom1dep> Not necessarily Java, but tooling on the JVM/CLR is something else, sure 😃
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[17:47:00] <Holger> Well Gleam is a tiny nerd thing, and if we talk Erlang vs. JVM it's obviously still niche vs. global player, but I think you wouldn't quite do the Erlang VM justice if you said it's "JVM just less advanced". It does have it's own unique strengths _especially_ with regard to introspection.  If you're used to those you easily get to missing them when having to work with traditional debuggers and other mainstream stuff.
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[17:51:16] <Holger> Just recently assisted a friend with tracking down RabbitMQ issues in production.  He's not into Erlang but good in other languages, ended up being highly impressed and wondered what hoops it would've taken to track down a similar issue in a different environment.
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[17:53:05] <raver> Holger: know what you mean, I'm constantly impressed from TCL how elegant and short you can write elegant code
[17:53:29] <Holger> 🙂  Love it and hate it!
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[17:53:38] <raver> And the interpreter is damn small
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[17:54:33] <Holger> But with Erlang it's not really the language as such, the only real feature is that it's missing features, i.e. it's simplistic (so it fits in my small brain).  It's the VM.
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