Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, June 4, 2022< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

GMT+0
[00:00:32] 神楽坂喵 joins the room
[00:01:39] alan leaves the room
[00:01:48] iiro leaves the room
[00:01:56] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:01:59] suren joins the room
[00:04:22] dima leaves the room
[00:08:28] ta leaves the room
[00:08:49] 神楽坂喵 leaves the room
[00:08:50] isotelo leaves the room
[00:08:57] nik leaves the room
[00:09:38] sander leaves the room
[00:10:05] stp leaves the room
[00:10:18] 神楽坂喵 joins the room
[00:10:38] isotelo joins the room
[00:16:22] ta joins the room
[00:17:03] targ leaves the room
[00:17:31] Zash leaves the room
[00:19:01] kapad leaves the room: Going offline now ...
[00:19:06] kapad joins the room
[00:20:41] kapad leaves the room: Going offline now ...
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[00:21:21] kapad leaves the room
[00:23:46] tyler leaves the room
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[00:25:25] kapad joins the room
[00:26:42] basti leaves the room
[00:31:04] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:32:06] Demo leaves the room
[00:33:50] raver leaves the room
[00:35:01] ff leaves the room
[00:35:17] malloc leaves the room
[00:35:54] doctor leaves the room
[00:37:17] ij leaves the room
[00:39:04] doctor joins the room
[00:42:34] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:43:49] nik joins the room
[00:44:46] thomas joins the room
[00:44:57] thomas leaves the room
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[00:47:07] iiro joins the room
[00:48:50] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:51:04] tyler leaves the room
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[00:53:39] marc36 leaves the room
[00:58:45] agates joins the room
[01:00:18] doctor leaves the room
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[01:01:14] doctor joins the room
[01:02:11] alan leaves the room
[01:03:19] qwestion joins the room
[01:03:58] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[01:05:42] dima leaves the room
[01:07:47] ij joins the room
[01:09:30] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[01:11:43] alan joins the room
[01:14:13] ij leaves the room
[01:14:34] qwestion leaves the room
[01:14:43] jadmanthrat leaves the room
[01:15:10] marc36 joins the room
[01:15:25] kapad leaves the room
[01:15:45] Katherine joins the room
[01:16:01] stp leaves the room
[01:19:13] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:21:13] suren joins the room
[01:28:14] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:28:15] gooya leaves the room
[01:28:18] suren joins the room
[01:28:30] agates joins the room
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[01:32:20] qwestion joins the room
[01:36:22] isotelo leaves the room
[01:37:18] qwestion leaves the room
[01:37:54] bowlofeggs joins the room
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[01:40:17] dima joins the room
[01:41:34] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:42:02] nc1236 joins the room
[01:45:39] isotelo joins the room
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[01:46:59] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[01:52:52] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:55:48] qwestion joins the room
[02:03:45] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:03:54] suren joins the room
[02:06:34] doctor leaves the room
[02:06:34] doctor joins the room
[02:07:20] qwestion leaves the room
[02:12:20] iiro leaves the room
[02:21:16] kapad joins the room
[02:22:55] kapad leaves the room
[02:26:24] Silvio leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[02:32:52] doctor leaves the room
[02:32:54] doctor joins the room
[02:33:58] qy leaves the room
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[02:40:50] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[02:43:08] Frank joins the room
[02:44:55] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[02:46:15] marc36 leaves the room
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[02:48:36] agates joins the room
[02:49:10] qy leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[02:49:29] qy leaves the room
[02:49:37] qy joins the room
[02:50:32] kryptos leaves the room
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[03:01:04] ij leaves the room
[03:02:00] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[03:02:38] pipo10 joins the room
[03:06:06] agates joins the room
[03:15:24] chrys joins the room
[03:16:01] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[03:16:05] suren joins the room
[03:17:25] pprrks joins the room
[03:19:08] de-facto leaves the room
[03:22:13] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[03:23:19] qy leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[03:30:25] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[03:30:25] bluejames leaves the room
[03:30:25] Jaap van Wingerde leaves the room
[03:30:29] suren joins the room
[03:30:30] agates joins the room
[03:33:14] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[03:36:47] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[03:39:54] pod joins the room
[03:41:13] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[03:48:39] alan joins the room
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[03:50:37] 神楽坂喵 leaves the room
[03:52:27] dos leaves the room
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[03:58:53] sumpfralle leaves the room
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[04:02:40] alan leaves the room
[04:08:28] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[04:09:28] mimi89999 leaves the room: Disconnected: Received SIGTERM
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[04:14:28] raver joins the room
[04:17:28] pod joins the room
[04:27:16] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[04:29:05] alan leaves the room
[04:31:33] agates joins the room
[04:33:00] nitro5 leaves the room
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[04:37:03] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[04:37:08] suren joins the room
[04:39:23] paul joins the room
[04:39:43] thomas leaves the room: Left Vacuum-IM
[04:41:00] schäfchen726 joins the room
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[04:43:46] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[04:43:50] 神楽坂喵 leaves the room
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[04:50:37] nitro5 leaves the room
[04:51:50] thomas leaves the room
[04:53:43] robert_mobil joins the room
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[04:55:13] thomas leaves the room
[04:55:23] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[04:55:30] ij joins the room
[04:56:51] pprrks joins the room
[04:58:27] ben joins the room
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[05:02:02] ij leaves the room
[05:03:01] 神楽坂喵 joins the room
[05:03:09] dcuba.ar admin joins the room
[05:03:36] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[05:14:14] sander joins the room
[05:14:26] ij joins the room
[05:15:27] ckta joins the room
[05:17:20] marc36 joins the room
[05:20:38] ij leaves the room
[05:21:40] Sando joins the room
[05:22:33] pipo10 leaves the room
[05:22:33] [Alien] leaves the room
[05:22:33] thomas leaves the room
[05:22:33] mightyBroccoli leaves the room
[05:22:33] mightyBroccoli leaves the room
[05:22:34] apach leaves the room
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[05:26:23] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[05:32:37] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[05:34:29] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[05:37:17] isotelo leaves the room
[05:38:28] sezuan leaves the room
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[05:48:27] ben leaves the room
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[05:59:24] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[06:04:05] alan leaves the room
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[06:06:56] Marc joins the room
[06:07:02] Jeroen joins the room
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[06:07:43] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[06:10:05] danielepiccoli joins the room
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[06:24:25] writer77 joins the room
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[06:29:10] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[06:31:36] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[06:46:11] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
[06:46:47] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[06:55:12] Jeroen joins the room
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[06:56:58] suren leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[06:57:16] isotelo leaves the room
[06:57:27] raucao joins the room
[06:58:32] TheCoffeMaker leaves the room
[06:59:36] pine joins the room
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[07:09:24] rom1dep leaves the room
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[07:14:20] TheCoffeMaker joins the room
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[08:59:34] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: closed
[09:02:28] Frank leaves the room
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[10:48:41] agates leaves the room: Disconnected: Hibernating too long
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[13:04:22] <MR> Hi
In our ejabberd we use  mod_mam for message archiving, and we can set cache_life_time to define how long that messages will stay, my question is what is the maximum cache_life_time value can be? In other words, what is the maximum cache lifetime can be? I know that the default is 3600 which is 1 hour, can I make it 36000 which is 10 hours? Or 86400 which is one day? Or 2592000 which is one month? Or 31104000 which is one year? How big that number can be?
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[13:06:43] <MR> I have searched the documentation but just found the default value, nothing about the max or min values
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#cache-life-time
[13:06:46] <Licaon_Kter> MR: not cache, they're forever, unless you use delete_* to clean them
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[13:09:18] <MR> Licaon_Kter: Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker, I'm not sure that I do understand what do you mean, can you please write your answer in more clear language for foreign
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[13:09:59] <MR> Do you mean that cache_life_time has no effect or there is no max value?
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[13:11:11] <Licaon_Kter> MR: no effect
[13:12:01] <Licaon_Kter> you use 3 commands to clean up with ejabberdctl:
`ejabberdctl --no-timeout delete_old_mam_messages all XX`
then
`ejabberdctl delete_old_messages XX`
(Where XX is days)
then
`ejabberdctl delete_expired_messages`
And the newer _batch versions
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[13:14:40] <MR> Oh, that means they will stay there forever unless I delete them myself -as administrator, can that affect the server performance, how much count/size can I keep before the server get annoyed
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[13:16:19] <Licaon_Kter> MR: it's text, not that much
[13:16:29] <Licaon_Kter> You've setup SQL for storage?
[13:16:36] <MR> Yes
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[13:17:16] <Licaon_Kter> Depends on your needs too, you want them forever? For 60 days? What's the use case?
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[13:20:15] <MR> We use it in one of our games, so we expect too much message but no need to keep them too long, I just wanted to know if there is max value, but you helped me a lot by telling me that cache_life_time key has no effect, now I have to write some script to do the delete action
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[13:21:46] <MR> *many
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[13:36:46] <MR> Licaon_Kter: My manager asks me for a documentaion for cache_life_time issue, is there any blog/github issue or anything like that documents that?
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[13:39:38] <Licaon_Kter> What's the issue exactly? I thought it was a misunderstanding of its functione
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[13:39:39] <Licaon_Kter> What's the issue exactly? I thought it was a misunderstanding of its function.
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[13:39:58] <Licaon_Kter> Which clients will you use?
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[13:43:47] <MR> that cache_life_time has no effect, and we have to do the delete manually
We build our own client, But does this make any difference?
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[13:45:14] <Zash> Wouldn't a "cache" probably be something meant to speed up database access, where the database is what actually stores archives
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[13:51:25] <Holger> Yes.
[13:52:23] <Holger> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#cache-life-time
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[13:53:23] <Holger> Admittedly the docs don't explain what a cache actually is 🙂  But it's really just does what you'd expect from the name.  Cache results of DB queries in memory.
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[13:56:02] <MR> Holger: Oh I see, it is not about saving the messages themself, it just about cacheing the queries, so it is not an issue after all
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[13:57:26] <Holger> Right.
[13:57:54] <MR> Is there any setting for auto delete the old messages from the DB? or I have to do that manually in case I want to?
[13:58:20] <Holger> Use a systemd timer or Cron job, as Licaon_Kter suggested.
[13:58:30] <MR> OK clear, thank you
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[13:59:27] <Zash> No built-in archive expiry, like Prosody?
[13:59:37] <Holger> Or mod_cron from the ejabberd-contrib repo, but to be honest I don't quite see the point.
[14:00:23] <Holger> Zash: I'm not sure how to implement real quotas in an efficient manner. So we're left with periodic cleanup.
[14:00:51] <Holger> Separate table for counting messages or something …
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[14:01:06] <Zash> I'm mostly thinking of the periodic time-based cleanup.
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[14:01:37] <Zash> The quotas are mostly to ensure the file system based storage driver doesn't grow beyond what it can handle
[14:02:15] <Holger> Well yeah we have that mod_cron thing. Like we have built-in ACME and whatnot. So yes you *could* use ejabberd to do everything, instead of using Emacs or systemd 🙂
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[14:02:50] <Holger> Personally I just use Cron, it's quite good at invoking tasks periodically.
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[14:06:33] <Holger> > The quotas are mostly to ensure the file system based storage driver doesn't grow beyond what it can handle
Yes for user quotas I'd see the point of having them built-in.  But we'd need something that avoids COUNT(*)ing on each and every message stored to MAM.
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[14:07:30] <Zash> Cached in memory. Easy enough to increment.
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[16:04:03] <Holger> Maybe.
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[16:05:07] <raver> > Cached in memory. Easy enough to increment.
Or via insert/delete trigger
[16:07:05] <Holger> But what would the trigger do?  Increment a counter in a separate table?
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[17:29:40] <raver> Holger: that was my thought yes
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[17:36:07] <Holger> Yeah that would probably do the trick, with or without a trigger.
And yes those are the two solutions I was pondering with, I'm just unsure whether I like them (number is in-memory counters should probably be limited in some ways; separate metadata table has the potential of getting out of sync; …).
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[17:51:14] <Zash> Can't a proper database cache `COUNT(*)` itself?
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[18:36:56] <raver> Zash: I also think count(*) must be improvable. Maybe with count(index column) or s.th similar
[18:37:56] <raver> Haven't digged deep enough into postgres yet, but I know another Holger who's really a postgres guru and I bet he knows a way😀
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[20:43:03] <moparisthebest> Should be the same
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[20:53:09] <strejo> > ^ also if name contains a fixed part like `mydomain.<a_dns_company>.com` ,  a check for 'a_dns_company' is a good thing to do cause you gonna 'inherit ' its reputation, and maybe this also affect your project. 'affect' could be from something you can see at first as blocking or blacklisting, or just too much unwanted traffic that 'll realize later.
thanks for the advice
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[21:38:59] <kapad> yesterday i tried to copy and use some part of mnesia to sqlite3 files and then update config to run from there. the sqlite db was not a global setting rather a per module one.
Then i realized i must > copy mnesia in db format > inserted into db file (very slow) > then reload config
ok, what was curious and wnat to ask about is,
- if a vhost not a have some modules, ie: mod_muc, then 'export2sql' command fail . In what way that make sense ?
- how  i can calculate mnesia's size ? If make a `du` inside node's database make sense or not ?
- if want to do the reverse, take data from sqlite3 db inside mnesia, and then use mnesia again, how can i do it ?
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[21:39:34] <kapad> yesterday i tried to copy and use some part of mnesia to sqlite3 files and then update config to run from there. the sqlite db was not a global setting rather a per module one.
Then i realized i must > copy mnesia in db format > inserted into db file (very slow) > then reload config
ok, what was curious and want to ask about is,
- if a vhost not a have some modules, ie: mod_muc, then 'export2sql' command fail . In what way that make sense ?
- how  i can calculate mnesia's size ? If make a `du` inside node's database make sense or not ?
- if want to do the reverse, take data from sqlite3 db inside mnesia, and then use mnesia again, how can i do it ?
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[21:51:50] <kapad> -- other question :)
```
  mod_http_upload:
    hosts: [ "upload.@HOST@" ]
    custom_headers:
      "Access-Control-Allow-Origin": "https://@HOST@"
      "Access-Control-Allow-Methods": "GET,HEAD,PUT,OPTIONS"
      "Access-Control-Allow-Headers": "Content-Type"
```
with the above config, when using a web-browser to upload, the "Access-Control-Allow-Origin" is "https://@HOST@", meaning the '@HOST@' is not expanding. Is something my fault or others have notice that also ?
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[22:17:45] <Licaon_Kter> Web browser you mean Converse or Movim client?
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[23:22:36] <Holger> > with the above config, when using a web-browser to upload, the "Access-Control-Allow-Origin" is "https://@HOST@", meaning the '@HOST@' is not expanding. Is something my fault or others have notice that also ?
Not your fault, @HOST@ is only expanded for a few specific options (mentioned in the docs).
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[23:46:54] <kapad> Licaon_Kter: yes, see with conversejs
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[23:49:36] <kapad> Holger: arent these headers also in ejabberd's documentation, or saw it somewhere else ?
any workaround on this ? maybe proxy behind nginx ...
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[23:55:15] <kapad> ^ not part of ejabberd docs https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod-http-upload , ...
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