Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, August 10, 2022< ^ >
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[01:49:33] <carlo> I'm looking at setting up an ejabberd cluster and the instructions mention the following modules required "router, local router, session manager, and s2a manager" I don't currently see any mod_router, etc in my yml file and I'm not sure if I'm just to assume adding mod_router, mod_local_router, mod_session_manager, mod_s2s_manager in my yml file  is enough.  I don't see any specific documents about those specific modules.  I installed ejabberd 21.12 via Ubuntu apt install.  Are these modules a separate package?
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[01:57:35] <carlo> Also, I'm using PostgreSQL.  Do I assume that ejabberd cluster also replicates the SQL or do I have to look into clustering the SQL server as well?
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[03:34:45] <Licaon_Kter> carlo: sql is separate
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[03:37:01] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: you don't need to restart the server, `reload_config` is enough. The date of the new messages is in the past or now?
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[08:19:31] <badlop> Maybe those instructions are obsolete and some steps are not required anymore. What's its url?
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[09:16:51] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: new messages are correctly
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[09:17:27] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: new messages are displayed on the correct date.
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[09:19:33] <gooya> It's quite frustrating because it's also filling up my device with multiple duplicate images :p
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[09:21:59] <gooya> Also some messages from the past week are resend again (notification)
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[09:25:19] <Licaon_Kter> ejabberd logs?/ gooya
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[09:42:36] <gooya> On holiday right now :S
[09:42:36] <gooya> I was hoping someone else had experienced the same
[09:42:37] <gooya> I'm back the 19th will immediately send logs then
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[14:29:21] <TheCoffeMaker> I had a similar issue gooya. ... Fixed restarting the server
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[14:41:04] <gooya> I've had this issue before as well and I noticed it (only?) happens after restarting with a new certificate.
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[14:47:15] <TheCoffeMaker> Disnt happen to me that way ... My issue was due to a power outage, when the server went back online didnt have internet connection (Im guessing that it came back with a bad state, maybe, really dont know) for about a week ... Finally when it came back had it running for about a month and the messages been saved with a wrong timestamp with a week delay
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[14:48:28] <TheCoffeMaker> Restrting the server fixed it, nowevery time I have to power cycle the server I restart ejabberd just in case
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[14:48:40] <TheCoffeMaker> Restrting the server fixed it, now every time I have to power cycle the server I restart ejabberd just in case
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[14:50:38] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: the date/time is correct now, but was it correct always? The device has a RTC?
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[14:52:14] <prefiks> If you see that again could you check what `xmpp_util:encode_timestamp(misc:usec_to_now(mod_mam:make_id())).` inside ejabberdctl debug console returns?
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[14:52:20] <prefiks> does it match current time?
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[15:16:30] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: RTC isn't working correctly
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[15:16:41] <gooya> Hence the need to manually set time and date
[15:17:46] <gooya> I'll try to find a fix or workaround soon cause manually setting time and date seems to cause issues or atleast I'm one of the (only/few) persons experiencing this.
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[17:13:26] <MR> Hi
I'm trying to implement this function
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#archive-metadata
it requires 'urn:xmpp:mam:2#extended', and I found it is not implemented within my ejabberd, I have activated mod_mam but it dosen't include the "extended", I get this error "Unknown tag <metadata/> qualified by namespace 'urn:xmpp:mam:2'"
can you help me please, thanks
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[17:15:41] <Holger> MR, yes, as you said, the #extended features aren't supported by ejabberd (except for flipped pages I think).
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[17:15:56] <Holger> MR, out of curiosity what's the use case?
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[17:16:16] <Licaon_Kter> MR: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3398#issuecomment-709554509
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[17:16:54] <Holger> The XEP says "When planning a query, a client may wish to learn the current state of the archive".  I'm not opposed, just curious why the client may wish to learn such things 🙂
[17:17:20] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: sekret client for sekret clients that have forced MR to code while blindfolded while sending requests via XOR encrypted pieces of paper slipped under the door... or so I heard
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[17:18:04] <Licaon_Kter> It's the tree-monkeys code style of developing xmpp.
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[17:18:09] <Holger> Oh right, I remember.
[17:18:26] <kapad> ^ does this also related with offline messages too ?
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[17:18:41] <Licaon_Kter> kapad: mnope, maybe, why
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[17:19:00] <Licaon_Kter> kapad: mnope, maybe, why?
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[17:19:17] <Holger> Anything in this world is related to anything else, in one way or another.
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[17:21:10] <kapad> ... maybe too much things, can affect negative poor or pay connections, or sensitive clients ...
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[17:22:09] <MR> I build my own client -for some internal use- and need to get the mam for a room, I found that to get this I need to allow "<field var='include-groupchat'><value>true</value></field>", and to do that I need "urn:xmpp:mam:2#extended" too, but I found it will be much easer to try "archive-metadata" first and fix the issue
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[17:22:38] <MR> I the use case clear now?
[17:23:31] <Holger> MR, ejabberd doesn't store groupchat messages in the user's archive in the first place.  Standard clients usually just query the room archive.
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[17:24:04] <Holger> MR, see <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#business-storeret-muc-archives>.  You basically just query room@conference.example.com in addition to MR@example.com.
[17:24:24] <MR> I'll check it, thanks
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[17:26:38] <MR> Licaon_Kter: I don't understand your joke about the secret thing, so I can't find it funny, sorry
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[17:28:28] <Holger> MR: Last time we asked about a use case your response was "dunno and I'm not supposed to ask" I think.
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[17:28:35] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/gYXPefvPRa8MUZ8SBBGKSxQsFUFrDEZmwGMFeNzP/sq-qout5T66WlgxnldRE_Q.jpg
[17:28:36] <Licaon_Kter> MR: ^^^
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[17:30:59] <MR> yes, I can remember that, but still can't see the joke
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[17:32:54] <Licaon_Kter> Let's explain it.
You drop by randomly, asking for features that no client has for a faceless beneficiary that does not explain why they want that specific feature.
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[17:33:36] <Licaon_Kter> While you need to implement it, no questions asked.
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[17:33:51] <Licaon_Kter> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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[17:34:31] <kapad> so, could this xep 0313 if used by a client, can select the number of messages someone download, or this is not the case at all ?
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[17:35:23] <Holger> kapad, there's a generic XEP, 0059, for this kind of thing.  XEP-0313 makes use of that.
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[17:35:35] <Holger> So yes the client can specify the max. number of messages to retrieve.
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[17:36:07] <Zash> You can emulate the <metadata> thing by doing one query with max=1 and another with max=1 + before
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[17:36:30] <Zash> This happens to be how Prosody implements <metadata> currently
[17:37:04] <Holger> Still curious about the use case though 🙂
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[17:38:32] <Licaon_Kter> You know about the curious cat Holger ?
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[17:39:52] <Holger> No.  Is it still alive?
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[17:41:11] Licaon_Kter slaps Holger, back in the box with you
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[17:42:09] <Holger> 🙀
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[17:45:01] kapad my interest in this, is a real case of someone that experience a **serious** harm because the lack of this functionality of his client. My client miss that feature also. Who was part of 'that' room, 'that' time maybe remember this as the 'flood stanza' joke. But who read that logs, and face the whole subject, was not joke at all.
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[17:45:37] <Licaon_Kter> kapad: which client? A custom one? Dino?
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[17:48:35] <kapad> i use psi. `his` client was gajim.
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[17:53:52] <kapad> ... also claims that client crash, and leaks info. cant really take a place on this, but gajim memory thing, isn't that great
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[17:56:36] <kapad> conversations also lucks this. Anyway, it would be useful clients implement this, especially mobile ones that might run on prepaid connections ...
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[18:15:46] <Licaon_Kter> "This" is MAM? At least Gajim and Conversations support this, if the account has opt-in of course.
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[19:06:59] <kapad> » "This" is MAM?
is the 'feature' of a client to inspect how many messages is going to 'fetch' and let you 'get involve' with this ...
don't use mobile clients, so don't know what exact happening there
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