Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, August 12, 2022< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

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[15:32:25] <TheCoffeMaker> > Has this been sended already?
gooya: Yeap
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[16:35:44] <MR> Hi
I have a situation that I can't understand
let's say I have a MUC called "room1", that room has 2 users "user1" and "user2" and both can send and receive messages
If one of the users left the room -user1 as an example- and user2 sent some messages, user1 will receive that missed messages once hi joined the room back as response of "presence" stanza, that is normal and expected
The problem is if the server goes down and restarted before user1 rejoin the room, the response of "presence" stanza will not contain that missed message, user1 client must send this stanza to get all old messages "https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#query-paging-limit"
My question is:
Is that the regular behavior, or I have something wrong in my config? And if it is the regular behavior, how can I change it, I need the server to send me at least the last message, so I can request the older messages using the ID
Thank you in advance for your reply
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[16:52:44] <badlop> you are referring to this:
history_size: Size
A small history of the current discussion is sent to users when they enter the room.
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[16:53:26] <MR> Yes that is what I mean
but if the server restarted before the user rejoin, there will be no messages at all
[16:53:38] <badlop> that "small history" is kept only i n RAM, not stored in the database; when the room restarts for any reason (crash, server stop, etc), that history is lost
[16:54:15] <badlop> alternative: use MAM
[16:54:23] <MR> can I change that? can I ask the server to read that "samll history" from the DB if it is empty?
[16:55:11] <Zash> Don't most modern clients just always fetch history with XEP-0313 ?
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[16:55:22] <MR> I use MAM, that is why I can retrive the history by this stanza "https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#query-paging-limit"
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[16:57:06] <MR> I need the ID of the last message sent to the room, so I can query the messages before that ID, or I'll be forced to retrieve all the room history till now
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[16:57:56] <MattJ> No, MAM doesn't require you to know the latest ID
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[16:58:23] <MattJ> It allows you to set limits, and query from either the oldest or latest messages
[16:58:39] <Zash> There's even an example of exactly that in the XEP: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0313.html#sect-idm46520034792112
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[17:00:25] <MattJ> https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/mam-explorer/ can help you experiment with different queries. If you put "2" as the page limit, and change page "after" to "before" you will see how it can fetch the most recent messages without supplying an id.
[17:00:26] <MR> OK greate, so I just can't get it -after the server restart- within the presence stanza, I have to call MAM
[17:00:44] <MattJ> It sounds like you are going to query MAM anyway
[17:01:16] <MattJ> Most clients disable the history mechanism to ensure they don't receive any of the cached messages
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[17:01:21] <MattJ> And then they just use MAM
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[17:01:29] <MattJ> It's more flexible and more reliable
[17:01:50] <MR> OK clear, thanks for your time
[17:01:53] <Zash> But it's more round-trips
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[17:02:34] <MattJ> Which are likely to happen anyway. But yeah, it would be nice to include a pseudo-MAM-query in the join :)
[17:02:51] <Zash> Orrrr .. you can certainly pipeline the join and the MAM query
[17:03:30] <MR> I'm not sure I under stand how to do the "pipeline", I'll search for it
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[17:04:28] <Zash> It just means you send more than one thing at a time without waiting for the response.
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[17:06:04] <MR> In 2 separate stanzas, don't I?
but sending without wait for response for the first one
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[17:06:15] <Zash> Sure
[17:06:43] <MR> understood, thanks again
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[17:08:08] <Zash> But it's probably a good idea to make it work before you optimize :)
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