Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, September 9, 2022< ^ >
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[05:27:21] <gustav> Hello! I want to leave some public chats. How i can do it? Can not see options in Conversations and Movim.
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[05:28:36] <Roman> Conversations: open the MUC, top-right '...' menu, 'Close the conversation' (translit. from fr)
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[05:32:04] <Roman> Looking at =< 21.3, it looks like crypto:mac/4 (and friends) don't exist, which is a major blocker for #3893 since MACs are an important part of the S3 API
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[06:21:57] <Licaon_Kter> gustav: leave as close today or leave as remove bookmark?
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[06:23:03] <gustav> Licaon_Kter: remove/signout
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[06:23:55] <gustav> If i want to join again some day to enter my specific details.
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[06:25:58] <gustav> In my case, I want to enter again with my real name instead of current nickname in some group. But if i am joining and see that there is no interesting group, it is good to leave this chat group
[06:26:27] <Roman> you should be able to change your nickname
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[06:39:18] <Licaon_Kter> gustav: ^^^ and set nick when you add bookmark etc
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[06:53:01] <gustav2 > Ok
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[06:57:07] <gustav> Deleting also works. Thank you! I will try to delete my account here, which i use in Movim, but this is other resource...
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[07:03:34] <Holger> Roman:
> Looking at =< 21.3, it looks like crypto:mac/4 (and friends) don't exist, which is a major blocker for #3893 since MACs are an important part of the S3 API
Older OTP versions had the crypto:hmac() functions:
https://www.erlang.org/docs/19/man/crypto.html#hmac-3
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[07:04:52] <Holger> Roman: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/3312eaa51dcd48797a068eb3f1786bd133b93d61/src/misc.erl#L86
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[07:06:20] <Holger> Roman: I didn't look at your code yet and don't know what `uri_string` stuff you need, but we have this for example:
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/3312eaa51dcd48797a068eb3f1786bd133b93d61/src/misc.erl#L59
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[07:07:31] <Holger> Generally, chances are a `grep -r` over the code base will yield an example of how to handle such cases, either something ready to use or a similar case.
[07:09:25] <Holger> That said I think there might be value in bumping to 21.3 or even 22.0 as that would get rid of a few things, e.g. we could depend on the new Erlang logger and ditch lager support.
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[07:10:07] <Holger> E.g. Debian Buster ships 21.2.something IIRC, though.
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[10:36:34] <prefiks> you can use misc:crypto_hmac: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/3312eaa51dcd48797a068eb3f1786bd133b93d61/src/misc.erl#L87 it works with both versions
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[11:23:20] <Holger> Yes that's what I linked above.
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[15:53:25] <spiral> hi, I'm trying to set up my ejabberd server to serve a domain without pointing the DNS apex to ejabberd (using a subdomain and SRV records). is this supported?
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[15:55:46] <Holger> ejabberd won't care about SRV records for your own domain.  So as long as your clients (and possibly remote servers) have a way to discover the service (manual configuration or whatever), that's supported, yes.
[15:55:47] <Licaon_Kter> spiral: yes
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[15:56:56] <spiral> I'm not sure how to set TLS certificates correctly for that
[15:57:20] <spiral> I'm using built-in acme module and it tries (and fails) to get a certificate for root domain
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[15:57:57] <Licaon_Kter> It tries to get for `hosts:`
You need to put `sub.domain.tld` there not root
[15:58:08] <Holger> Ok yes the built-in ACME module won't work in that setup.
[15:58:36] <Holger> It supports HTTP-challenges only, and those will only work if the A/AAAA record points to the host serving the challenges.
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[15:59:05] <Holger> You could use a separate tool such as dehydrated or acme.sh to use DNS challenges.
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[15:59:34] <spiral> does it actually need a certificate for root domain? it's never going to be contacted there since the apex domain points elsewhere
[15:59:56] <Licaon_Kter> spiral: no, just for the host you setup in .yml
[16:00:04] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> It supports HTTP-challenges only, and those will only work if the A/AAAA record points to the host serving the challenges.
Ah, interesting :(
[16:00:15] <spiral> yes I'm trying to have xmpp addresses on the root domain...
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[16:00:35] <Licaon_Kter> Oh that contraption
[16:00:42] <Holger> spiral, Licaon_Kter, unless I'm misunderstanding the setup the answer would be "yes, it needs a certificate for the main XMPP domain".
[16:00:50] <Holger> I.e. the domain part of your JIDs.
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[16:00:55] <spiral> I see, ugh
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[16:01:18] <Holger> (Otherwise the attacker could just forge DNS responses to circumvent PKI.)
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[16:09:25] <Roman> > Roman: I didn't look at your code yet and don't know what `uri_string` stuff you need, but we have this for example:
> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/3312eaa51dcd48797a068eb3f1786bd133b93d61/src/misc.erl#L59
I'll have to give that a good look, but there's a pretty heavy dependency upon uri_string for query decompose/recompose and other URI manipulation that's important to the URL signing process. Most of it is probably pretty easy to implement without the OTP part, I'll have to see.
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[16:12:00] <Holger> Roman, in the meantime badlop suggested ejabberd-contrib, which might have the additional advantage of having relaxed OTP support requirements.  I.e. I'd think it's fine to just mention your min. required version in the README and call it a day.
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[16:14:01] <Holger> Anyway old OTP versions only had this, which isn't much indeed:
https://erlang.org/docs/19/man/http_uri.html
[16:14:48] <Roman> I haven't looked at the PR comments yet today, but I would generally like to get this into upstream proper as opposed to contrib and am willing to make necessary changes.
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[16:15:13] <Licaon_Kter> Holger:
> `add_roster`, setting group as `""` makes Converse show a _title-less_ group for that contact. While also having a "Ungrouped" type for other contacts. Is this standardized? If so, how to make said contact "ungrouped" via command line?
Any ideas?
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[16:15:27] <Holger> Roman, badlop's point was more about this being a quite specific use case, but whatever.
[16:15:33] <Roman> Ah
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[16:15:45] <Roman> It's in Mongoose FWIW
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[16:16:49] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, you mean `add_rosteritem`?
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[16:21:10] <spiral> test
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[16:21:29] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: yeah
[16:21:29] <Licaon_Kter> spiral: fail, retry
[16:21:40] <spiral> unfortunate
[16:21:48] <spiral> my server is unbroken now
[16:21:51] <spiral> sweet
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[16:28:17] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, fixed in Git.
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[16:29:01] <Licaon_Kter> Wait wat, that was a bug? :))
[16:29:10] <Holger> I'd say so, yes.
[16:29:33] <Licaon_Kter> Glad I helped lol
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[16:29:58] <Holger> If someone wants to create a roster group of the name "" he's out of luck now.
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[16:31:28] <Licaon_Kter> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[21:38:28] <gustav> Hi guys! Is there any transport for Viber. Texting and files is enough for me. On my old phone (Huaweii) can not run Viber, because the issue with Google and their services...
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[21:48:14] <Licaon_Kter> Not really
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[21:48:19] <Licaon_Kter> gustav: Not really
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