Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, September 26, 2022< ^ >
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[05:15:49] <moparisthebest> PatRiot: fyi whenever you get a TLS certificate your domain names are published in the public certificate transparency logs that people automatically scan https://crt.sh/
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[05:31:55] <Licaon_Kter> moparisthebest: security by obscurity
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[07:11:02] <PatRiot> Ok, thx. But it's nevertheless a further step to here xmpp
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[13:34:21] <satisha> heya.. so i have an where people have shut down their devices.. but the roster still shows them as online..
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[13:35:18] <satisha> * ^^have an issue*
[13:37:39] <Holger> satisha: In many cases that's expected, with typical configurations, servers keep the session open if the connection is lost, as resuming that session is more efficient than opening a new one.
[13:38:32] <satisha> is there a way i can make sure the session is actually closed if its not reconnected to.. so maybe in few minutes?
[13:38:54] <Holger> satisha: The configuration could be adjusted if that's not desired, but it may still often take a considerable amount of time until the server's TCP stack even notices a connection loss.  So "online"/"offline" state just isn't really reliable, esp. not with flaky mobile connections.
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[13:39:37] <satisha> 98% of the people are wired .. witha  few people on wifi etc
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[13:39:56] <satisha> could you share which variable / config needs to be updated to do this ?
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[13:41:29] <Holger> satisha: You could disable `mod_stream_mgmt` and make sure `mod_ping` is enabled with `timeout_action: kill`.  I'm just worried you might overlook the potentially negative implications this has.
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[13:42:05] <satisha> would it be possible to set it to something like 5 minutes
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[13:42:27] <Holger> satisha: At the very least you'd want to be sure all clients support MAM (and `mod_mam` is enabled), otherwise such a configuration may easily lead to silent message loss.
[13:43:05] <Holger> satisha: 5 minutes is the default, except that `mod_push_keepalive` bumps that default to a large value for (mobile) push clients specifically.
[13:43:49] <Holger> satisha: 5 minutes after noticing the connection loss, that is.  As I said it may take way longer for the stack to notice the issue.
[13:44:30] <Holger> satisha: That's the part where `mod_ping` helps.  (But a small ping interval is definitely not recommended if you have mobile clients.)
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[13:47:01] <satisha> so if i change : mod_push_keepalive : resume_timeout to something like 10 minutes.. im good ?
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[13:47:15] <Holger> Just disable that module if you don't want that behavior.
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[13:47:49] <Holger> What you want depends on your environment.  If you have no mobile clients you don't need mod_push_keepalive, but then again mod_push_keepalive does nothing anyway in that case.
[13:48:19] <Holger> I don't know how your environment looks like so it's hard to make sane suggestions.
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[14:55:32] <satisha> Holger: 99% wired connection / desktops
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[14:57:31] <Holger> For those, `mod_push_keepalive` makes no difference.
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[14:57:48] <Holger> `mod_ping` might.
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[15:00:17] <satisha> cool.. thanks
[15:00:24] <satisha> let me give it a try
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[15:01:38] <satisha> guess will come to know tomorrow
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