Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, October 1, 2022< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

GMT+0
[00:00:30] stp leaves the room
[00:00:43] uira leaves the room
[00:00:47] uira joins the room
[00:01:23] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:01:27] uira joins the room
[00:02:14] uira leaves the room
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[00:03:51] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:04:19] uira joins the room
[00:05:36] nuron leaves the room
[00:05:38] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:05:42] uira joins the room
[00:06:08] multixmp222 joins the room
[00:06:10] spiral leaves the room
[00:06:24] uira leaves the room
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[00:07:36] [Alien] leaves the room
[00:07:41] pprrks joins the room
[00:08:00] spiral joins the room
[00:08:52] frankest leaves the room
[00:10:04] Zash joins the room
[00:10:07] frankest joins the room
[00:10:10] lonelycat leaves the room
[00:10:34] alan leaves the room
[00:10:47] uira leaves the room
[00:10:51] uira joins the room
[00:11:38] multixmp222 leaves the room
[00:12:03] j.r joins the room
[00:12:24] dima leaves the room
[00:13:07] uira leaves the room
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[00:13:52] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:14:07] uira leaves the room
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[00:14:58] uira leaves the room
[00:15:03] uira joins the room
[00:15:36] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:15:48] uira leaves the room
[00:15:53] uira joins the room
[00:16:08] lucas joins the room
[00:16:47] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:16:52] uira joins the room
[00:17:07] alacer leaves the room: offline
[00:18:25] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:18:31] uira joins the room
[00:22:46] j.r leaves the room
[00:26:03] multixmp222 joins the room
[00:29:47] uira leaves the room
[00:29:50] uira joins the room
[00:31:32] pprrks joins the room
[00:31:37] multixmp222 leaves the room
[00:34:00] dima joins the room
[00:35:03] yed1 leaves the room
[00:36:18] uira leaves the room
[00:36:26] uira joins the room
[00:36:31] Demo leaves the room
[00:36:54] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:37:12] marc0s leaves the room
[00:37:13] marc0s joins the room
[00:40:11] Zash leaves the room
[00:40:57] lucas leaves the room
[00:41:01] multixmp222 joins the room
[00:42:49] uira leaves the room
[00:42:53] uira joins the room
[00:42:55] Zash leaves the room
[00:43:20] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:43:37] uira joins the room
[00:44:43] SouL leaves the room
[00:46:35] multixmp222 leaves the room
[00:46:47] uira leaves the room
[00:46:50] uira joins the room
[00:47:00] j.r joins the room
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[00:47:39] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:48:45] uira leaves the room
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[00:50:06] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:51:01] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:51:05] uira joins the room
[00:51:36] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[00:52:24] dima leaves the room
[00:52:55] uira leaves the room
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[00:53:15] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[00:53:23] uira leaves the room
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[00:56:33] SouL joins the room
[00:58:13] uira leaves the room
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[00:59:17] lucas joins the room
[01:00:10] Thomas Lewis joins the room
[01:00:23] uira leaves the room
[01:00:27] uira joins the room
[01:01:04] multixmp222 joins the room
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[01:04:20] Thomas Lewis leaves the room
[01:06:37] multixmp222 leaves the room
[01:07:09] kapad leaves the room
[01:08:17] uira leaves the room
[01:08:22] uira joins the room
[01:09:43] pprrks joins the room
[01:09:52] uira leaves the room
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[01:15:36] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[01:16:03] uira leaves the room
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[01:18:17] ben joins the room
[01:19:54] b43 joins the room
[01:20:45] Mario leaves the room
[01:21:05] multixmp222 joins the room
[01:21:21] b43 leaves the room
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[01:21:44] uira leaves the room
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[01:23:40] ben leaves the room
[01:24:09] spiral leaves the room
[01:24:13] spiral joins the room
[01:26:28] LNJ leaves the room
[01:26:38] multixmp222 leaves the room
[01:27:19] b43 leaves the room
[01:27:26] uira leaves the room
[01:27:30] uira joins the room
[01:27:56] bkero leaves the room
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[01:29:18] moparisthebest leaves the room
[01:30:39] uira leaves the room
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[01:37:13] EOF leaves the room
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[01:40:44] kryptos leaves the room
[01:41:49] TheCoffeMaker leaves the room
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[01:44:44] lucas leaves the room
[01:45:39] uira leaves the room
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[01:58:58] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:01:41] uira leaves the room
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[02:03:26] doctor leaves the room
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[02:06:41] thomas joins the room
[02:07:53] malloc joins the room
[02:08:48] thomas leaves the room
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[02:12:17] thomas joins the room
[02:13:22] uira leaves the room
[02:13:27] uira joins the room
[02:15:40] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:16:36] doctor leaves the room
[02:19:04] uira leaves the room
[02:19:09] uira joins the room
[02:20:28] pprrks joins the room
[02:22:28] multixmp222 joins the room
[02:22:36] thomas leaves the room
[02:23:04] raver leaves the room
[02:24:22] uira leaves the room
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[02:28:22] thomas joins the room
[02:30:21] thomas leaves the room
[02:36:19] uira leaves the room
[02:36:22] uira joins the room
[02:36:22] JuniorJPDJ_ leaves the room
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[02:37:13] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:39:35] moparisthebest leaves the room
[02:39:44] moparisthebest joins the room
[02:40:01] multixmp222 leaves the room
[02:42:12] pprrks joins the room
[02:45:42] gooya leaves the room
[02:45:43] EOF leaves the room
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[02:46:45] uira leaves the room
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[02:48:57] Ramiro Romani leaves the room
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[02:48:59] twl leaves the room
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[02:49:09] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
[02:52:04] uira leaves the room
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[02:52:21] uira leaves the room
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[02:52:29] Mario joins the room
[02:52:41] uira leaves the room
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[02:52:56] kryptos joins the room
[02:53:15] kryptos leaves the room
[02:53:58] raucao leaves the room
[02:54:05] twl joins the room
[02:54:09] dima joins the room
[02:58:04] uira leaves the room
[02:58:08] uira joins the room
[02:58:28] SouL leaves the room
[03:01:04] multixmp222 joins the room
[03:04:11] doctor leaves the room
[03:04:15] doctor joins the room
[03:04:24] uira leaves the room
[03:04:29] kryptos leaves the room
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[03:06:37] multixmp222 leaves the room
[03:07:14] hlad joins the room
[03:07:15] hlad leaves the room
[03:08:44] robert_mobil joins the room
[03:09:05] pprrks joins the room
[03:09:45] uira leaves the room
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[03:11:23] moparisthebest leaves the room
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[03:28:14] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[03:31:09] multixmp222 joins the room
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[03:34:00] tyler leaves the room
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[03:38:41] BlackEdge joins the room
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[03:42:59] satisha joins the room
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[03:49:30] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[03:51:03] pprrks leaves the room: Disconnected: closed
[03:51:22] multixmp222 joins the room
[03:55:17] tyler joins the room
[03:58:15] uira leaves the room
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[03:59:13] SouL joins the room
[04:01:14] isotelo leaves the room
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[04:03:53] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[04:07:32] robert_mobil leaves the room
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[04:08:06] uira leaves the room: Disconnected: Replaced by new connection
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[04:21:24] LNJ leaves the room
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[04:37:50] spiral leaves the room
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[04:55:47] Ramiro Romani leaves the room
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[10:07:19] <william.chatner> A user contacted me cause he cant connect to my server. He says he uses Tor, but on other servers it works,he says.
My log:
> 2022-09-30 19:58:21.098554+02:00 [info] <0.25341.5>@ejabberd_c2s:bind/2:442 (tls|<0.25341.5>) Opened c2s session for xxxxx@laberzentrale.de/monocles chat[1.5.10].GBIm
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> 2022-09-30 20:16:52.405937+02:00 [info] <0.25341.5>@mod_stream_mgmt:transition_to_pending/2:459 (tls|<0.25341.5>) Closing c2s connection for xxxxx@laberzentrale.de/monocles chat[1.5.10].GBIm: Connection failed: connection closed; waiting 300 seconds for stream resumption
Any quick thoughts? Server/client/Tor problem?? Thx
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[11:07:46] <Licaon_Kter> william.chatner: it closes because of their OS, imho,  there's no error in that log
[11:08:43] <Licaon_Kter> william.chatner: https://dontkillmyapp.com and exclude both the client and Orbot from battery optimisations
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[11:11:14] <william.chatner> Thanks
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[11:16:34] <william.chatner> Its not that Tor does anything different, right? It connects to the same ports I propagate via dns as usual clients do.
And I have a successful scram auth message in my logs from that user. So the exit node is not currently blacklisted by my firewall.
I dont see any problem server-side.
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[11:18:52] <Licaon_Kter> william.chatner: yes
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[11:42:23] <Casper> hi
[11:42:54] <Casper> is DANE and TLSA verification supported by ejabberd ? can't find infos on the web
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[11:43:25] <Holger> william.chatner: No, SRV lookups don't work via Tor.
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[11:45:08] <Holger> So clients behind Tor typically end up falling back to platforming an A/AAAA lookup and using port 5222.  Very meh.
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[11:51:25] <william.chatner> Thats the solution!
I use non-standard ports for c2s and s2s. They are correctly in dns. But it means that my xmpp cant be used via Tor, hmm...
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[11:54:32] <Casper> users can set the port setting in the xmpp client, only if admin provide the info of the good listening port in use (non-standard, off course)
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[11:55:03] <Casper> users can set the port setting in the xmpp client, only if admin provide the info of the good listening port in use (non-standard use-case, off course)
[11:55:10] <Casper> users can set the port setting in the xmpp client, only if admin provide the info of the good listening port in use (non-standard use-case, off-course)
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[11:58:37] <william.chatner> Is there any good security reason to put those ports to non-standard?
Or in other words: Is it perfectly safe to leave them at 5222 etc?
My rationale: I do not use ssh on port 22. And i am the only one ssh'ing into my server. So my firewall policy is: any IP that connects to 22 is immediately blacklisted.
I adapted this technique when setting up the xmpp server.
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[11:59:44] <william.chatner> Casper: i do provide this info on my website
[12:00:41] <Casper> fine, tell to the user now :)
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[12:01:50] <william.chatner> Casper: i already pointed him to this conversation here 😊
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[12:04:22] <william.chatner> Still a question: does it make any sense (mostly security-wise) to change c2s and s2s ports to non-standard???
[12:05:04] <Casper> in my opinion, no (after many years...)
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[12:32:06] <Holger> william.chatner: A common reason to offer c2s via direct TLS on port 443 is to allow access behind restrictive firewalls.
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[19:24:42] <darkflib> > Is there any good security reason to put those ports to non-standard?
> Or in other words: Is it perfectly safe to leave them at 5222 etc?
> My rationale: I do not use ssh on port 22. And i am the only one ssh'ing into my server. So my firewall policy is: any IP that connects to 22 is immediately blacklisted.
> I adapted this technique when setting up the xmpp server.
Only reason would be if you expect a lot of automated scans/attacks - same reasoning as ssh
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[19:26:25] <darkflib> As to restrictive firewalls, you can certainly do some additional magic with iptables and something like haproxy (allows sniffing the ssl handshake for routing)
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[19:28:37] <darkflib> That way you don't also stop yourself running https if you want to
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[21:49:43] <william.chatner> Ok I see. Thank you all for your help
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[21:58:14] <tmolitor> william.chatner: you could use sslh to run multiple services (xmpp, https, ssh etc.) On port 443, see here: https://github.com/yrutschle/sslh/
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[21:59:01] <tmolitor> It even allows to transparently proxy connections to the app/web/ssh server :)
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[22:35:20] <darkflib> I like sslh as a concept, but I have had issues with it in the past... I am more comfortable with haproxy (use it at work)
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[22:36:22] <moparisthebest> darkflib: can haproxy multiplex on both sni and alpn on the same port? Nginx can't which is why I always stuck with sslh
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[22:41:04] <darkflib> In theory, yes... But you will likely need to terminate the tls to get the desired result.
I have generally just routed to backends based on the sni vhost... But if you are using the latest tls 1.3 sni encryption, this is only going to work if you actually terminate it as the sni would be hidden.
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[23:02:19] <moparisthebest> Terminating TLS is out of the question, you can't do that with XMPP S2S
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[23:03:37] <moparisthebest> ECH (encrypted client hello) is written in a way where a multiplexer can decrypt the header and still not have access to the real TLS stream so it can work the same way, I'm not aware of an implementation of that yet though
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[23:39:42] <tmolitor> darkfib: I'm using sslh for a website + xmpp server combination with high traffic volume and it works like a charm (in transparent proxying mode)...
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