Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, November 28, 2022< ^ >
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[04:52:47] <cmdr_coconut> Ellenor Bjornsd.: you again!
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[04:54:49] <cmdr_coconut> so myself and another guy have a hunch that there might be something terribly busted in the mod_http_upload for ejabberd.  He and I both saw that it was that module as the issue before things couldnt get unfuckled
[04:55:45] <cmdr_coconut> im just not going to use http uplodez on my host, screw it.  fyi something dangerous lurks in that module
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[04:56:01] <cmdr_coconut> should check it ....  whom ever
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[08:19:30] <cmdr_coconut> Mx2 it's port and network failing things
[08:19:48] <cmdr_coconut> There's NO REASON LOGICALLY that my port :5281 wouldn't spawn a listener
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[08:21:34] <cmdr_coconut> It's fun learning all the particulars but I've expended my weeks worth of patience already :>
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[08:34:10] <Licaon_Kter> cmdr_coconut: did you post your config somewhere?
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[09:14:33] <gooya> Now that the muc is a bit more quiet. I have resolved most of the issues I had with ejabberd but there is still two unexpected issues that I can't seem to resolve. Avatar publishing to s2s users doesn't work. I added them as a contact and they did too. Also, Presence updates are not send to s2s users too eventhough this is enabled in conversations. I think these are related to eachother?
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[09:19:32] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: how do you know presence is not sent?
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[09:20:06] <gooya> I know they are not received by thr user on the other end.
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[09:24:11] <gooya> 'local' users can see presence updates and my avatar
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[09:29:34] <prefiks> afaik there is no code in general presence handling that even check if roster entry is for local or remote server
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[09:30:04] <prefiks> maybe some kind of privacy rule prevents sending those? or maybe remote server filters them
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[09:31:17] <prefiks> could be also issue with multicast communicaitons between nodes, as i think it would be used for that
[09:31:32] <prefiks> you could see if disabling mod_multicast helps there
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[09:38:30] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: maybe post your complete config
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[09:40:46] <cmdr_coconut> Licaon_Kter: i will wen i get bacok
[09:40:49] <cmdr_coconut> back
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[09:53:54] <gooya> prefiks: I tried on jabber.de and 404 server both not working. I'll disable mod_multicast to see if that makes a differencr.
[09:54:27] <gooya> Licaon_Kter, prefiks: I'll post my config here in 40 mins
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[10:02:02] <Licaon_Kter> Hope it's not 41mins or else...
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[10:56:53] <gooya> > Hope it's not 41mins or else...
:s hehe I'm late. I might have solved the issue? Seems like Disabling and enabling mod_multicast and restarting server has solved it?
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[10:57:43] <gooya> Anyone able to message me and check if presence updated/avatar is received?
> xmpp:admin@loqi.im
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[11:07:41] <prefiks> if this is mod_multicast issue, it may be a result of missing entry for multicast.your.server.com in dns/certficate
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[11:13:24] <gooya> prefiks: should I set up a srv record for multicast.domain.tld?
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[11:20:33] <prefiks> if you have that service then yes ideally you will need it (only _xmpp-server though)
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[11:21:16] <prefiks> possibly cname to main server domain will work? not sure
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[11:48:39] <gooya> I added the appropiate record and everything seems to be function accordingly right now. prefiks Licaon_Kter Thanks for all your help and time debugging these issues!
[11:48:56] <Licaon_Kter> 👍
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[11:51:36] <Mx2> Which record exactly?
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[12:29:31] <cmdr_coconut> gooya: thats a cool domain
[12:30:18] <cmdr_coconut> prefiks: how important are SRV records if all my subdomains are on the same IP ?
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[12:30:50] <gooya> I mistyped the _xmpp-server srv and changed it to the correct syntax
[12:31:30] <prefiks> i think a record or c record to main ip/domain may work, but i am not 100% sure
[12:31:33] <TheCoffeMaker> gooya: tried to ping that jid ... It points me to a captcha url
[12:31:39] <gooya> cmdr_coconut: Thanks. It is a derivative from the latin word loqui which means to speak.
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[12:32:25] <cmdr_coconut> cool.  loqi reminded me of lowkey and .im is good tld.
[12:32:30] <gooya> TheCoffeMaker: Yeah I think I'll have to disable mod_block_strangers completely because it doesn't seem like this would work in a production environment of having a big public server
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[12:34:04] <Licaon_Kter> gooya: it's tricky, be sure to exclude your XEP-0157 abuse addresses from it else other will have trouble to contact you...
[12:34:27] <TheCoffeMaker> Was going to write that too 😅
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[12:34:55] <Mx2> Its relevant to private s2s less servers too?
[12:34:56] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: Do you think disabling mod_block_strangers completely is a good option or should I change drop: false and captcha: false?
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[12:36:15] <cmdr_coconut> Mx2: why isolate?  youd be totally isolated to your host
[12:36:30] <Mx2> It's my private server
[12:36:37] <Mx2> It's q feature
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[12:36:58] <Mx2> there's no rule be federation
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[12:37:31] <cmdr_coconut> you wouldnt be able to hear from any other server
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[12:37:38] <cmdr_coconut> as a client
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[12:38:03] <cmdr_coconut> maybe i dont understand your question
[12:38:23] <cmdr_coconut> just omit an muc
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[12:48:25] <Licaon_Kter> gooya:
> Do you think disabling mod_block_strangers completely is a good option or should I change drop: false and captcha: false?
That's up to you and you-r threat model lol
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[12:50:11] <gooya> Licaon_Kter: It's a difficult consideration as it will be a public server so there is no general threat model.
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[12:50:43] <cmdr_coconut> stay far away from the one they call morph
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[12:51:25] <Licaon_Kter> There's always one, spammers. Either your users are spammers, hence you need to be able to be reachable. Or others spam you... but that depends on how much your users advertise their own addresses.
[12:51:29] <Licaon_Kter> cmdr_coconut: that's a myth
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[12:52:17] <cmdr_coconut> nope.  he came rampaged all my chats last winter
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[12:52:45] <cmdr_coconut> most annoying human, certified
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[12:57:36] <Mx2> Morph...wasn't that me xD
[12:57:38] <Mx2> ?
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[13:02:58] <cmdr_coconut> lmao SUS
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[16:09:20] <marko.cupac> Hi all. I'm new here 😀. I need help with configuration. I am using ldap authentication and mod_shared_roster_ldap. When new user signs into client (conversations on android), they see complete shared roster, but all users seem offline even though lot of them are online. I tried to decrease cache_life_time to 1 minute but there's no improvement. Any idea what to do?
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[16:09:40] <Licaon_Kter> marko.cupac: which ejabberd version?
[16:10:21] <marko.cupac> 22.10
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[16:11:26] <Kris> hmm, sounds like they are added to the roster but the presence permission is not atomatically added?
[16:12:22] <marko.cupac> Perhaps. I think earlier I worked around this by restarting the server but now it doesn't work either.
[16:13:59] <marko.cupac> I think you're on the spot, because when new user messages online user who appears offline, this user sees this message as coming from untrusted user in format username@example.org and not from trusted "Name Surname" as it should.
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[16:14:21] <marko.cupac> Is there anything I could configure?
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[16:15:53] <prefiks> i think in shared_roster_ldap there is no notification that new user was added to group (we fetch shared roster content only when user ask for it at session start), so users already logged in doesn't arent notfied that roster was updated
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[16:16:20] <prefiks> ldap server doesn't send notificaitons about those so we don't really know when that happen
[16:16:41] <prefiks> users will receive updated roster when they reloigin
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[16:19:03] <marko.cupac> Hmm, any way to force this server side? This is supposed to be company xmpp server with hundreds of users, it does not look realistic to tell all users to relogin when new user is added. Any chance to expire current login periodically and force relogin, server-side?
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[16:20:58] <Licaon_Kter> De-auth them all on refresh? :))
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[16:22:31] <prefiks> i don't think we have code for that, would require writing new code
[16:23:25] <marko.cupac> Maybe it is conversations' fault? I don't see this new account in my roster, even after server restart, also after disabling and enabling account in conversations.
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[16:24:30] <marko.cupac> They see me offline, I don't see them at all.
[16:24:43] <prefiks> hm, relogin should receive updated roster..
[16:25:06] <prefiks> could be a result of having `store_current_id: true` in mod_roster maybe?
[16:25:21] <marko.cupac> Maybe I need to wait a bit more in disabled state, I just toggle it off and on.
[16:25:22] <Mx2> Shared rosters?
[16:25:43] <prefiks> could be just resumed session as well instead of full relogin
[16:26:03] <Mx2> Hmm...i get also caching issues
[16:26:26] <Mx2> But how force client server sided to re fetch
[16:26:29] <marko.cupac> Yay! At least I'm not alone 😀
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[16:29:23] <marko.cupac> I think some time ago (2 years or so) new people would start appearing in other people's rosters and vice versa after some time, and definitely after server restart.
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[16:29:40] <prefiks> there is no way to tell client to fetch new roster
[16:29:51] <marko.cupac> But then again this was time of pidgin / gajim, not conversations.
[16:30:03] <prefiks> server is supposed to send delta with updated data
[16:30:13] <marko.cupac> So it might be different way how clients refresh rosters.
[16:31:07] <prefiks> but in ldap shared roster we don't know when soemthing changes, and to even figure out what changed we would need to know previous and current state
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[16:31:33] <prefiks> and we don't store that info either
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[16:32:34] <prefiks> normal shared roster know when entries are added or deleted so it's able to calculate what updates need to be send, not such luck with ldap backend
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[16:33:54] <marko.cupac> But still, if new shared roster is send on login, if cache_life_time is set low like 1 minute, which also sets auth_cache_life_time if not set differently, shouldn't new roster appear in a minute?
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[16:34:13] <prefiks> yes
[16:34:16] <marko.cupac> I mean shared ldap roster
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[16:34:34] <prefiks> when it's fetched it should get updated version
[16:34:43] <marko.cupac> And if it doesn't that should be counted as a bug?
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[16:35:14] <prefiks> yes, but some clients don't fetch new roster
[16:35:14] <Holger> Make sure not to enable roster versioning.
[16:35:47] <marko.cupac> > Make sure not to enable roster versioning.
Will try that, thanks for the tip
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[16:36:03] <prefiks> sometimes they resume old session, and expect to sync roster by receive roster updates
[16:36:59] <Holger> marko.cupac: It's disabled by default, so that's only an issue if you explicitly enabled it (it's a `mod_roster` option).
[16:37:13] <marko.cupac> I did enable it
[16:38:30] <marko.cupac> Can I have only mod_shared_roster_ldap, without  mod_roster? This is non federated internal company server, so it is perhaps even desireable not to have custom roster.
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[16:41:08] <marko.cupac> Removed versioning, restarted server, disabled and enabled account in conversations, new guy still not appearing in roster.
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[16:41:37] <prefiks> do you see it in other client?
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[16:41:58] <marko.cupac> Lemme see if i have gajim around
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[16:43:02] <prefiks> could you see if `ejabberdctl get_roster myuser myserver.com` returns it?
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[16:45:58] <marko.cupac> Nope, gajim does not see him either
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[16:48:52] <marko.cupac> Hm, i cant run ejabberdctl says node down. But server works 🙄
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[16:51:17] <marko.cupac> Connection attempt from node rejected invalid challenge reply
[16:51:54] <prefiks> are you using docker or something?
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[16:52:16] <prefiks> could be also issue with calling that as wrong user?
[16:52:29] <marko.cupac> No, jail on freebsd. Will troubleshoot this and once I make ejabberdctl work i'll get back. Thanx for all the help so far.
[16:52:48] <marko.cupac> Can I specify user in ejabberdctl?
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[16:54:21] <prefiks> it takes value from what was passed to configure
[16:54:38] <prefiks> this is bash script, look for installuser
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[16:55:31] <prefiks> also that error would suggest problems with cookie: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/guide/security/#erlang-cookie
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[16:57:07] <marko.cupac> Will do. Thx all, gotta run for a family member b-day. Once I make ejabberdctl work I'll be back with questions 😀
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[23:14:11] <carlo> Hello, I am trying to get SIP TLS to work.  I believe I have the server configure properly with the listen:
port: 5061
module: ejabberd_sip
tls: true
certfile: /etc/ejabberd/server.pem
I can see on the server that port 5061 is listening.  But when I set Linphone to TLS transport, it is unable to connect.  However, when I select UDP or TCP, Linphone is able to connect.
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