Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, May 9, 2023< ^ >
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[00:29:22] <Kris> Hmm monolog here... I guess the best way is to remove the modules from the global config that I want to configure per vhost.
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[02:29:08] <agh> Good monolog tho, thanks 👌️
[02:29:37] <agh> Good monologue tho, thanks 👌️
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[04:55:08] <Licaon_Kter> Kris: are we your rubber duckies? :)
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[09:51:17] <Kris> I was hoping for some reply but 🤷‍♂️
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[10:00:26] <badlop> the best way is to remove the modules from the global config that I want to configure per vhost. <--- right
[10:00:51] <badlop> it's mentioned in https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/basic/
«To define specific ejabberd modules in a virtual host, you can define the global modules option with the common modules, and later add specific modules to certain virtual hosts.»
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[10:05:45] <Kris> Yeah, its just not very clear that configuring any module via host_config discards the entire global config for that vhost.
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[10:06:57] <Kris> Also annoying that when you want to define one module different for a single vhost you are forced to define it via append config even if all of them except one are the same.
[10:08:10] <Kris> A way to overwrite a module setting for a vhost would really simplify the config options
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[11:43:17] <badlop> Kris: PRs are welcomed ;)
https://github.com/processone/docs.ejabberd.im/blob/master/content/admin/configuration/basic.md#virtual-hosting
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[11:45:29] <Kris> well: "There was an issue forking. Try again or create one manually" seems like I ran into a Github bug
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[11:48:16] <badlop> right, there's a problem in github right now: "Incident with Actions, API Requests, Git Operations and Issues"
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[11:56:21] <Holger> > PRs are welcomed
I fully agree it would be good to have `append_host_config` (not `host_config`) override global options rather than vice versa.  Though I guess we'd need another config knob to enable that behavior for backwards compat.
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[11:58:24] <Holger> > its just not very clear that configuring any module via host_config discards the entire global config for that vhost.
This part specifically should then only be made more clear somehow, IMO.  I think having an easy way for discarding the global config can be highly useful.
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[12:07:30] <Kris> Yes I agree, its not bad to have this behaviour, its just unexpected IMHO and the docu is not very explicitly mentioning this
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[12:13:27] <Licaon_Kter> I didn't find it hard to use, eg, mixed host and append_host: https://gist.github.com/licaon-kter/2a7c8f3e08ba8c78e9736eaa0c2dc305
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[12:35:56] <Kris> its not hard, its just confusing and forces you to duplicate a lot of configuration if you have multiple vhosts
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[12:39:26] <Holger> I'm just saying it's two _separate_ issues: (1) The difference of `host_config`vs. `append_host_config` might need clarifications in the docs, (2) `append_host_config` should override global options.
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[12:40:46] <Holger> Issue (2) can be worked around a bit with macros, but I agree it's meh.
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[12:56:45] <Kris> yeah exactly
[12:57:02] <Kris> unrelated: is there a better option for this: https://codeberg.org/Windfluechter/ejabberd-nodeinfo2
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[13:37:31] <Kris> fyi: https://github.com/lldap/lldap/blob/main/example_configs/ejabberd.md
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[13:37:58] <Kris> works nicely, but I still need to figure out and add the vcard and shared roster stuff. help apprechiated
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[13:53:37] <gooya> Is there a way to set a sane limit for local user messages? e.g. to mitigate bot usage on a server.
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[14:00:31] <Kris> like a rate limit?
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[14:39:58] <gooya> Kris: Yeah but instead of rate limiting messages in muc but then for user to user
[14:40:36] <Kris> hmm, I remember from Prosody that there is a general rate limit for all messages
[14:40:47] <Kris> probably possible with ejabberd as well
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[14:43:47] <gooya> Kris: Couldn't find such an option in the documentation. If there is that would be pretty nice :)
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[14:46:23] <Kris> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53942775/how-to-set-message-per-second-limit-for-users-on-ejabberd
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[14:47:40] <Kris> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/basic/#shapers
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[14:49:14] <Kris> however that doesn't say the "min_message_interval" that the stackoverflow reply claims exists 🤔️
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[14:49:56] <gooya> Thanks for the links. I knew about being able to set shaper rules but something like 'min_message_interval' which can be set at 'mod_muc' but then for user to user.
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[14:50:14] <gooya> Thanks for the links. I knew about being able to set shaper rules but something like 'min_message_interval' which can be set at 'mod_muc' but then for user to user. Would fit my case better.
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[14:51:00] <Kris> ah, right
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[17:36:15] <gooya> Holger, badlop: I am sorry for asking this but has anyone already looked into issue #3990? I  have been watching the ticket regularly to see whether there was any activity but it doesn't seem so. Me and a lot of other people are really hoping for this to be implemented as to make use of bridges whilest having messages carbon copied.
> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3990
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[17:43:16] <Kris> Yes, this is quite important for Slidge to work properly.
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[17:44:20] <gooya> Kris: Yeah.. I haven't looked into biboumi yet but doesn't biboumi make use of it aswell?
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[17:45:27] <Kris> AFAIK no
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[18:44:16] <mwt> I'm looking for that feature as well
[18:45:46] <mwt> Managing the roster manually with slidge is hard
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