Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, October 16, 2023< ^ >
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[04:21:42] <satish> Ludo: what compliance tester
[04:23:50] <satish> oh theres a compliance tester.. just found it.. cool
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[08:17:51] <satish> hmm.. for some reason its not able to do any tests
[08:18:05] <satish> "ERROR: Credentials could not be verified"
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[08:33:11] <satish> im guessing https://compliance.conversations.im/ doesnt support self signed certs ?
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[08:58:12] <Licaon_Kter> satish: no one does, lol
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[10:09:38] <satish> so i use a subdomain instead of the main TLD.. im guessing my SRV records  should match this right
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[10:19:12] <zoidberg> Affirmative
[10:19:25] <satish> err how do you guys handle letsencrypt certificates ? dont the services etc need their own certs ?
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[10:19:42] <zoidberg> Certbot is easy works well
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[10:20:02] <satish> like i have chat.domain.com .. so something like upload.chat.domain.com and conference.chat.domain.com
[10:20:36] <zoidberg> There is more i think
[10:20:45] <zoidberg> But the 2 main ones will be conference
[10:20:53] <zoidberg> And char.domain.com
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[10:21:25] <zoidberg> Chat*
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[10:22:03] <zoidberg> But as you said
[10:22:09] <zoidberg> There is also httpupload
[10:22:13] <zoidberg> And pubsub
[10:22:22] <zoidberg> and maybe a couple more
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[10:22:27] <zoidberg> Not really sure
[10:22:42] <zoidberg> But normally
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[10:23:16] <zoidberg> Set up the main one, and the conference one, IMO is kind of enough
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[10:30:53] <satish> proxy,upload,pubsub,conference .. anything else  ?
[10:32:24] <zoidberg> Not really sure, but it seems that is all
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[11:12:52] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> Do you have an idea, why the clients (Dino, converse.js) don’t get the device list for OMEMO?
[11:12:56] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>     (dino-im:482378): OMEMO-DEBUG: 13:10:50.676: manager.vala:193: received device list for pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de from molgen@molgen.mpg.de
[11:13:47] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> `ERROR: Could not fetch devices for molgen@molgen.mpg.de` in converse.js.
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[11:14:02] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> Can I check on the ejabberd side, what is going on?
[11:14:04] <satish> ok Direct TLS s2s fails .. any idea how to check that ?
[11:14:08] <satish> as per : https://connect.xmpp.net/#details-xmpps-server
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[11:14:43] <ffunk> > satish:
> proxy,upload,pubsub,conference .. anything else  ?
See ejabberd's log when starting it.It depends on modules in use.You should find there all subdomains that don't match the cert...
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[11:17:03] <satish> yeah got 90% on the connectivity check.. STUN wont happen since my unifi controller needs it..
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[11:17:13] <satish> trying to address direct tls s2s now
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[11:18:15] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> > ok Direct TLS s2s fails .. any idea how to check that ?
I had to click *Check* twice to also get a positive result for *Server-to-server connectivity*.
[11:19:08] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> @satish, please share, how you got TLS s2s going. It also shows *Failed* for me here.
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[11:19:32] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> I get *Dialback offered: No*.
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[11:29:54] <Licaon_Kter> pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de: gist of ejabberd.yml?
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[11:30:20] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> One second.
[11:30:38] <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de> /Nick PaulePanter
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[11:33:01] <PaulePanter> Licaon_Kter: https://paste.debian.net/1295192/
[11:33:24] <PaulePanter> ejabberd is built from the master branch.
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[11:36:43] <satish> pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de: check chat.oro.in  ..it will give a direct tls s2s failure
[11:38:18] <Holger> satish: DNS is pointing to port 5270 on that server, if I try to connect to that port I get "Connection refused".
[11:38:33] <Holger> satish: Simply no `ejabberd_s2s_in` listener on that port?
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[11:44:56] <satish> yeah found it.
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[11:45:01] <satish> thanks guys
[11:45:05] <satish> really appreciate all the help
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[12:03:48] <PaulePanter> I have
```
_xmpp-client._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5222 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
_xmpp-server._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
_xmpp-server._tcp.conference.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
_xmpp-server._tcp.pubsub.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
```
and `nmap xmpp.molgen.mpg.de -p5269` shows `5269/tcp open  xmpp-server`. For direct TLS, it’s common to open 5223 and 5270, and to add `listen:` entries to `ejabberd.yml`, correct?
[12:04:23] <PaulePanter> I have
    _xmpp-client._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5222 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
    _xmpp-server._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
    _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
    _xmpp-server._tcp.pubsub.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
and `nmap xmpp.molgen.mpg.de -p5269` shows `5269/tcp open  xmpp-server`. For direct TLS, it’s common to open 5223 and 5270, and to add `listen:` entries to `ejabberd.yml`, correct?
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[12:10:55] <PaulePanter> > I have
>
>     _xmpp-client._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5222 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
>     _xmpp-server._tcp.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
>     _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
>     _xmpp-server._tcp.pubsub.molgen.mpg.de. 86400 IN SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp.molgen.mpg.de.
>
> and `nmap xmpp.molgen.mpg.de -p5269` shows `5269/tcp open  xmpp-server`. For direct TLS, it’s common to open 5223 and 5270, and to add `listen:` entries to `ejabberd.yml`, correct?
Should https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/SRV_Records list 5270 as default direct TLS port, or is there none?
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[12:12:49] <prefiks> there is no default port, i believe it always consults srv data, where you specify what port you want to use
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[12:13:45] <PaulePanter> prefiks: Thank you.
[12:14:00] <prefiks> for client connection 5223 was somewhat standard before srv was a think so thats what this is mentioned
[12:14:57] <Zash> Convention for non-standard legacy SSL port
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[12:16:50] <PaulePanter> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/listen-options/#tls says direct TLS is deprecated. (Me is confused.)
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[12:18:16] <PaulePanter> > https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/listen-options/#tls says direct TLS is deprecated. (Me is confused.)
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0368.html is from 2019 and lists some advantages over STARTTLS.
[12:18:17] <Holger> PaulePanter, that comment is outdated.  It was depcecated, not the deprecation is deprecated 🙂
[12:18:31] <Holger> IT hypes come and go in waves.
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[12:18:56] <Holger> Static linking has been deprecated in the 80ies, now you'll read the advantages.
[12:19:21] <PaulePanter> > PaulePanter, that comment is outdated.  It was depcecated, not the deprecation is deprecated 🙂
s/not/now/?
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[12:19:32] <Holger> Right, soryy.
[12:19:39] <Zash> Direct TLS without SRV records is non-standard lecgacy at least.
[12:19:41] <PaulePanter> Thank you for taking the time. Now it is more clear.
[12:21:02] <Holger> And yes as Zash says, the difference is that we have XEP-0368 now, i.e. a proper way to have DNS point to direct TLS access.  In the past we just had this "try port 5223" convention, or docs that told users how to configure access manually.
[12:21:21] <Holger> (And nothing for s2s.)
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[12:22:17] <Zash> There's mention of 5270 as non-standard convention for SSL in some old document
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[12:23:30] <Zash> RFC 3920 even
[12:25:00] <Zash> I'm sure we'll eventually end up with no-SRV hitting port 5270 anyway, since the web doesn't use SRV and some shitty equipment block them
[12:25:01] <Holger> Oh!  Learn something new every day.
[12:25:50] <Holger> Zash, the web doesn't use ports != 443 though.
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[12:27:23] <Zash> Holger: Which is why some want everything on port 443 :/
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[12:29:09] <Zash> And also over websockets? Or http3?!
[12:29:51] <Holger> Yes!
[12:29:53] <PaulePanter> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/d5de93b8fac8c65f7ff9953c3f6408278de45fe6/ejabberd.yml.example#L27-L49 lists `starttls_required: true` for 5223 (direct TLS).
[12:29:56] <Zash> Some hosting options just don't allow *anything* but https :(
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[12:30:17] <Zash> Some hosting options just don't allow *anything* but https on 443 :(
[12:30:24] <PaulePanter> > https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/d5de93b8fac8c65f7ff9953c3f6408278de45fe6/ejabberd.yml.example#L27-L49 lists `starttls_required: true` for 5223 (direct TLS).
It should be `tls: true`, right?
[12:30:34] <Holger> PaulePanter: Huh, that's weird.  Yes, indeed.
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[12:31:32] <Holger> Tue Feb 2 15:25:19 2021 and nobody ever stumbled over that?
[12:32:26] <Holger> PaulePanter: Ah it says `tls: true` as well, I guess that wins.
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[12:33:21] <PaulePanter> > PaulePanter: Ah it says `tls: true` as well, I guess that wins.
Ah, indeed. Yes, `tls:` has higher precedence according to the ejabberd documentation.
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[12:40:19] <PaulePanter> Sorry for getting on your nerves. `ejabberd.yml.example` also does not have `shaper: s2s_shaper` for the 5269 section(?).
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[12:43:15] <Holger> PaulePanter: And again I'd agree this looks unintended.
[12:43:57] <Holger> PaulePanter: Seems this got lost in 2013 :D  (While switching the config format to YAML.)
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[12:54:12] <PaulePanter> I added the listen entries for 5223 and 5270, but the connectivity checker still fails. Clicking on *Check*, ejabberd logs https://paste.debian.net/hidden/af19694c/.
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[12:55:57] <PaulePanter> > I added the listen entries for 5223 and 5270, but the connectivity checker still fails. Clicking on *Check*, ejabberd logs https://paste.debian.net/hidden/af19694c/.
Ah, one second. I think it’s firewall/routing related on my end. Sorry.
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[13:46:45] <satish> Direct TLS is better than starttls ?
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[13:47:31] <prefiks> a bit less complex and can be offloaded to external service
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[13:48:17] <moparisthebest> Same roughly
[13:48:46] <moparisthebest> It's better at getting through firewalls if you listen on port 443
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[13:52:05] <PaulePanter> > Direct TLS is better than starttls ?
Define “better”. ;-) https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0368.html says:
> For server operators, this provides a way to host multiple services on the same port, especially when SNI or ALPN extensions are used. Servers could even host xmpp-client and xmpp-server services on the same TLS port. For clients, this provides a virtually zero overhead way to bypass restrictive firewalls that only allow HTTP over port 80 and HTTPS over port 443, as XMPP-over-TLS is indistinguishable from HTTP-over-TLS when ALPN is not used. For clients and servers, direct TLS saves round trips vs STARTTLS.
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[13:58:54] <Licaon_Kter> prefiks: is 23.10 incoming?
[13:59:04] <prefiks> yeah
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[14:00:37] <PaulePanter> > Licaon_Kter: https://paste.debian.net/1295192/
Licaon_Kter: Do you have an idea regarding my OMEMO troubles?
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[14:03:22] <Licaon_Kter> Will look asap
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[14:22:47] <PaulePanter> > PaulePanter: Seems this got lost in 2013 :D  (While switching the config format to YAML.)
Thank you for fixing the example config already in the repository.
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[14:40:20] <ludo> Does someone here has already migrated from an ejabberd Debian package to ProcessOne deb? Is there anything tricky?
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[14:45:39] <Licaon_Kter> ludo: paths I guess, from /usr to /opt
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[14:56:07] <ludo> Licaon_Kter: thanks. I'll need to make some tests, I wonder about all the content in `/var/lib/ejabberd`, if the P1 package also use the ejabberd user it _should_ be transparent
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[15:25:51] <Licaon_Kter> PaulePanter: you're missing `pep` lol
Use this:
```
  mod_pubsub:
    access_createnode: pubsub_createnode
    ignore_pep_from_offline: false
    last_item_cache: true
    plugins:
      - pep
      - flat
    force_node_config:
      eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.*:
        access_model: open
      storage:bookmarks:
        access_model: whitelist
```
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[16:12:09] <mainsection> hi, i cant get stun/turn working
[16:12:26] <mainsection> it rings, but cannot establish connection
[16:12:50] <zoidberg> Anything in the logs?
[16:12:53] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: gist/pastebin link of config?
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[16:13:07] <Licaon_Kter> Opened all the needed ports in firewall?
[16:13:17] <Licaon_Kter> Which test clients?
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[16:14:32] <mainsection> i have jused tutorial of ejabberd docs
[16:14:42] <mainsection> client ist gajim and Snikket on iOS
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[16:15:21] <zoidberg> Are these clients compatible ?
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[16:15:26] <Licaon_Kter> Gajim does not do calls, Snikket iOS might be offline 99% of the time per Apple
[16:15:31] <zoidberg> Maybe try conversations to conversations first
[16:15:34] <Licaon_Kter> So you got no client to test :))
[16:15:58] <Licaon_Kter> Dino and Conversations, yes
Maybe Monal Beta (not stable)
[16:16:05] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe Movim
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[16:16:46] <mainsection> gajim can do calls video and audio on Linux
[16:17:01] <zoidberg> Maybe try gajim linux to gajim linuz
[16:17:23] <mainsection> zoidberg, I will try
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[16:17:30] <mainsection> I come back
[16:17:42] <zoidberg> good luck.
[16:17:50] <zoidberg> Dino can call conversations
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[16:17:58] <zoidberg> Thats a very nice thing
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[16:18:08] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: no, Gajim does no do DTLS-SRTP calls like Dino, Movim, Conversations, Monal, Siskin, Snikket, Cheogram
[16:18:50] <Licaon_Kter> Gajim maybe would do unencrypted calls, and even then not sure it can use STUN/TURN anyway. So pls, get compatible clients.
[16:18:55] <Licaon_Kter> Which OS can you use?
[16:18:59] <mainsection> DTLS-SRTP what is this . I configured stun/turn in gajim
[16:19:07] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: ok, no
[16:19:15] <Licaon_Kter> > Which OS can you use?
[16:19:43] <mainsection> Linux Windows. Dino has OMEMO support ?
[16:19:49] <zoidberg> Yes
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[16:21:14] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: unofficial Dino on Windows. can call afaik, yes
*unofficial* Windows builds are here https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/releases/ is the most recent
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[16:22:59] <mainsection> https://superbrain.network/upload/66991be792af0b7527179ecb1eed5cd86497bcf8/FqhVfshprVF36mrJ6TyzmhG2Okj1ByReEOifDoeg/Screenshot_20231016_182104.png
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[16:24:39] <mainsection> you can creat turn /stun server
[16:25:24] <mainsection> is there a client for iOS accessible 100% in background, not 99% offline ?
[16:25:35] <mainsection> Movim Web APP or such ?
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[16:27:59] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: if you keep Siskin (Snikket iOS) opened it will be fine lol, or if you call FROM Siskin/Snikket iOS
Don't forget to UNtoggle "use google stun servers" in Settings
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[16:30:20] <mainsection> and movim ?
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[16:31:24] <mainsection> just called from dino to snikket, does not establish connection
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[16:33:08] <friedrich.altheide> > is there a client for iOS accessible 100% in background, not 99% offline ?
mainsection: monal (beta) can receive voice calls even when closed or in the background. The current beta will hopefully be available as a stable version within the next few days.
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[16:33:38] <PaulePanter> > PaulePanter: you're missing `pep` lol
>
> Use this:
> ```
>   mod_pubsub:
>     access_createnode: pubsub_createnode
>     ignore_pep_from_offline: false
>     last_item_cache: true
>     plugins:
>       - pep
>       - flat
>     force_node_config:
>       eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.*:
>         access_model: open
>       storage:bookmarks:
>         access_model: whitelist
> ```
Thank you, but isn’t it in line 769? My excerpt matches the one from `ejabberd.yml.example`.
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[16:34:52] <mainsection> friedrich.altheide, great. Monal ist the best, video calls missing until now!
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[16:36:22] <mainsection> Licaon_Kter, is it mandatory to forward the ports 50000-60000 by an used reversed proxy like traefik ?
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[16:36:48] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: yes
[16:37:08] <mainsection> what is minimum required ports ?
[16:37:17] <mainsection> port range for turn?
[16:37:27] <mainsection> it is so much ports
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[16:38:12] <Licaon_Kter> PaulePanter: yup, my bad, grepped too hard, that file is awful hard to read with so many comments
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[16:38:46] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: does it matter, you're paying by the number? Add a couple of hundreds at least
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[16:44:15] <Licaon_Kter> PaulePanter: can you state your issue again? Clients used? 1:1? MUC?
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[16:48:11] <mainsection> I think it does matter because of docker
[16:48:57] <Licaon_Kter> Why? It can't open 2223 ports but only 2?
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[16:50:28] <mainsection> never mind
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[17:13:42] <mainsection> which port must be allowed on client side ?
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[17:14:14] <Licaon_Kter> None
[17:14:24] <mainsection> does not work for me :-(
[17:14:41] <mainsection> wjich logs ca i use ?
[17:14:47] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: you only set server side, and clients get the info via XEP-0215 (mod_stun_disco) that you've setup
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[17:15:14] <Licaon_Kter> You've posted your clean config to a gist/pastebin link?
[17:15:35] <mainsection> no
[17:15:54] <Licaon_Kter> > does not work for me :-(
Always explain what you tried, you both added a contact in each others client, you called from which client to which, etc
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[17:16:25] <mainsection> dino to snikket
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[17:17:59] <Licaon_Kter> Snikket was opened on foreground?
Also tried Snikket to Dino?
[17:18:09] <Licaon_Kter> 2 accounts on the same server?
[17:18:17] <mainsection> dino to snikket rings snikket
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[17:18:35] <mainsection> but when I take the call it crashes (no connection)
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[17:18:47] <Licaon_Kter> You've setup loglevel 4 er 5 in .yml? ejabberd.log says what?
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[17:20:28] <mainsection> [error] <0.691.0>@proc_lib:crash_report/4:539 CRASH REPORT:
  crasher:
    initial call: stun:init/1
    pid: <0.691.0>
    registered_name: []
    exception exit: <<"SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file failed: error:0909006C:PEM routines:get_name:no start line">>
      in function  p1_fsm:init_it/6 (/home/runner/work/ejabberd/ejabberd/deps/p1_utils/src/p1_fsm.erl, line 386)
    ancestors: [ejabberd_stun_sup,ejabberd_sup,<0.175.0>]
    message_queue_len: 0
    messages: []
    links: [<0.607.0>]
    dictionary: [{rand_seed,
                      {#{bits => 58,jump => #Fun<rand.3.34006561>,
                         next => #Fun<rand.0.34006561>,type => exsss,
                         uniform => #Fun<rand.1.34006561>,
                         uniform_n => #Fun<rand.2.34006561>},
                       [35503920462553363|266834033422426583]}},
                  {'$logger_metadata$',
                      #{domain => [stun,stun],
                        stun_client => ["80.187.100.235",":9594"],
                        stun_session_id => <<"p7g6lxu8didb">>,
                        stun_transport => <<"TLS">>,stun_user => anonymous}}]
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[17:21:49] <mainsection> i use certfiles: fullchain.pem and privkey.pem as global configs and have defined certfile especially for turn but only fullchain.pem file
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[17:25:36] <Holger> That one doesn't include a private key I guess.
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[17:26:21] <Holger> > SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file failed: error:0909006C:PEM routines:get_name:no start line
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[17:29:02] <mainsection> right, so this section does not use global certfiles: ?
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[17:29:49] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: well... https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3264
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[17:30:37] <Licaon_Kter> mainsection: don't put TLS on TURN pls. That's already encrypted with DTLS-SRTP and on certain clients (Dino, Conversations) it's verified with OMEMO
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[17:30:51] <zoidberg> Is TLS for STUN/TURN recommended?
[17:30:57] <zoidberg> Ops
[17:31:01] <zoidberg> Too late
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[17:31:42] <mainsection>     port: 5349
    transport: tcp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    auth_type: anonymous
    auth_realm: superbrain.network
    use_turn: true
    tls: true
#    certfile: /opt/ejabberd/certs/fullchain.pem
    turn_min_port: 50000
    turn_max_port: 51000
#    turn_min_port: 49152
#    turn_max_port: 65535
    turn_ipv4_address:
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[17:32:10] <mainsection> so i have to go tls: false ? in the docs of ejabberd its not mentioned to go false
[17:32:12] <zoidberg> tls: false?
[17:32:26] <zoidberg> I think so
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[17:32:35] <mainsection> Licaon ?
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[17:35:01] <zoidberg> Also
[17:35:11] <zoidberg> Normally we use UDP
[17:35:18] <Holger> mainsection: The example config should be fine (i.e., `transport: udp`): `https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/ec20691188e/ejabberd.yml.example#L69-L76`
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[17:35:28] <Holger> zoidberg was faster :D
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[17:35:52] <Holger> mainsection: Just use that example, specify the server's `    # turn_ipv4_address: "203.0.113.3"
[17:36:04] <Holger> ... the server's external `turn_ipv4_address`, done.
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[17:37:08] <mainsection> the doc in ejabberd mentioned tcp for port 5349 ??
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[17:38:32] <mainsection> the github link refers to 3478 ? This I also descrive in my config
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[17:39:02] <zoidberg> 3478 for UDP also wors
[17:39:03] <zoidberg> Works
[17:39:13] <zoidberg> Just comment out the other one
[17:39:32] <Holger> mainsection: Yes both unencrypted TCP and TLS are supported by ejabberd.  But UDP is preferable.
[17:39:45] <mainsection> so i dont have to use 5349 port at all ?
[17:39:50] <Holger> mainsection: Right.
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[17:40:04] <mainsection> ok, great, I will try
[17:40:18] <zoidberg> But i would change that port "3478" you will be abused by some automations
[17:40:31] <zoidberg> But leave that fpr later
[17:40:39] <zoidberg> First try it out
[17:40:41] <zoidberg> Test it
[17:40:44] <mainsection> zoidberg, when it works I will change 😀️
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[17:43:54] <mainsection> anything to change in mod stun disco ? restricted has nothing to do with tls ?
[17:44:34] <Holger> Usually `mod_stun_disco: {}` should be fine (as in the example ejabberd.yml).
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[17:48:53] <mainsection> so no need to specify there the host ip ?
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[17:51:17] <zoidberg> You have a fixed IP?
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[17:52:19] <zoidberg> If so i think you can set that up as your external IP
[17:53:08] <zoidberg> For dynamic i am not sure. In Eturnal there is a script that checks the IP and change it automatically
[17:53:35] <zoidberg> I think its possible to modify that for ejabberd. But i am not sure
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[17:56:03] <zoidberg> Anyway for testing purpose i think you can just put your external IP there
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[17:57:40] <Holger> mainsection: There's no need to specify the host IP within the `mod_stun_disco` configuration, no.  You just need to specify the server's external `turn_ipv4_address` within the `ejabberd_stun` listener configuration.
[17:59:57] <mainsection> ok, i fixed this
[18:00:04] <mainsection> thats my error in logs
[18:00:11] <mainsection> 2023-10-16 17:57:57.997528+00:00 [notice] <0.704.0>@turn:wait_for_allocate/2:219 Creating TURN allocation (lifetime: 600 seconds) [UDP, session soownirlsqlx, user 1697522277:b70d404638fd7876, client 80.187.100.235:7985, relay 141.147.31.48:50831]
2023-10-16 17:58:03.457793+00:00 [notice] <0.695.0>@turn:terminate/3:482 Relayed 0 KiB (in 0 B / 0 packets, out 0 B / 0 packets), duration: 5 seconds [UDP, session bdpx2gjhmyr3, user 1697522277:b70d404638fd7876, client 91.57.177.102:24395, relay 141.147.31.48:50017]
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[18:02:08] <Holger> mainsection: That's not an error.
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[18:04:00] <Holger> mainsection: It shows that a TURN session has been opened successfully, but hasn't actually been used for relaying data.  This can happen during normal operation (clients open TURN sessions before figuring out whether they'll actually be needed).
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[18:04:53] <Holger> mainsection: But it _could_ also be a symptom of an issue, e.g. this would also happen if the UDP port range isn't accessible.
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[18:06:38] <mainsection> ok i fixed it now, it was SNIKKET not working
[18:06:47] <mainsection> dino to siskin works
[18:06:57] <mainsection> now I wait for Monal new version
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[18:08:13] <Holger> mainsection: Do you now see a `Relayed $n KiB` line where `$n` isn't `0`?
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[18:08:47] <Holger> Because otherwise you have not yet verified that your TURN setup actually works.  (Calls may work without TURN, depending on the network environment.)
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[18:15:58] <mainsection> thats right it is only "0"
[18:16:39] <Holger> Then I'm not sure whether the UDP port range is accessible for clients on your `turn_ipv4_address`.
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[18:16:46] <mainsection> i have deselected public turn in siskin, but same "0"
[18:17:01] <mainsection> ok
[18:17:37] <Holger> Clients will always prefer peer-to-peer connections over TURN relaying.  Relaying is just used as a fallback in case peer-to-peer streaming fails.  This makes it a bit tricky to test TURN.
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[18:29:41] <mainsection> icetest shows srflx
[18:29:49] <mainsection> that means it works ?
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[18:31:00] <Holger> That means STUN works.  It doesn't mean TURN relaying works.
[18:31:31] <Holger> The part that's unclear cannot be checked using an icetest web site.
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[18:31:33] <mainsection> relay is also mentioned wirth client ip
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[18:32:10] <Holger> Yes, allocating a relay works, your log files above show that as well.
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[18:32:39] <mainsection> how can i check turn relaying ?
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[18:34:35] <Holger> That's not easy I'm afraid.  E.g. by using two A/V clients where at least one is in some kind of restrictive network.  Many mobile networks are 'good enough' to force clients to fall back to TURN, but not all of them.
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[18:35:44] <mainsection> i cant call gajim aswell. only dino
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[18:40:22] <mainsection> .0>@turn:terminate/3:482 Relayed 590 KiB (in 270149 B / 258 packets,
[18:40:30] <mainsection> thats it ?
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[18:40:55] <Holger> Perfect!
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[18:45:38] <mainsection> great!
[18:45:47] <mainsection> so waiting for monal now
[18:46:01] <mainsection> what is the reason gajim does not work ?
[18:46:07] <mainsection> only dino
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[18:55:52] <Kris> modern calls are not implemented in Gajim
[18:56:03] <Kris> (yet, but slow progress)
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