Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, October 18, 2023< ^ >
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Room Configuration
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[04:12:12] <satish> hmm..23.10 .. thinking if i should use ejabberd's mirror or justr use the distro's
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[04:14:31] <Licaon_Kter> _Build from source!!!!111_
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[04:17:29] <satish> no way
[04:17:35] <satish> im done with that
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[04:18:47] <satish> we really should be looking at docker containers instead .. which does away with the whole  platform /repo etc
[04:19:08] <Licaon_Kter> Docker? Terrible
[04:19:15] <satish> why  ???
[04:19:33] <satish> why  ??? enlighten me
[04:19:35] <Licaon_Kter> :))
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[10:27:27] <PaulePanter> Licaon_Kter: Thank you for your answer. I reported the issue to converse.js: https://github.com/conversejs/converse.js/issues/3281, and didn’t yet have time to create an issue for ejabberd.
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[12:30:03] <rom1dep> > we really should be looking at docker containers instead .. which does away with the whole  platform /repo etc
But it does not? I've never figured how putting a distro in my distro with a layer of annoying ad-hoc tooling in between makes anything simpler, but maybe I just don't "think in containers" 🙂
Either way, they are available already afaict https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/
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[12:44:47] <max> Guys is it still relevant that we can’t use STUN with SCRAM password hashing?
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[12:49:34] <Licaon_Kter> max: there's no connection between these two topics, where did you hear that?
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[12:51:22] <max> Oh, sorry, I mean SIP and TURN, found this remark in docs:
Foreign authentication are use to authenticate through various bridges ejabberd provide. Foreign authentication includes at the moment SIP and TURN auth support and they will not be working with SCRAM.
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[12:57:50] <Licaon_Kter> max: SIP can't SCRAM the last time I checked, iirc
[12:58:29] <Licaon_Kter> TURN has different properties, not related to the user account SCRAM. Don't worry about that :))
[12:58:56] <max> Thanks 8)
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[16:48:50] <rom1dep> https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-23-10/
Congrats for the release
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[16:50:46] <rom1dep> There's no SQL schema migration to report this time?
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[16:54:54] <rom1dep> It's not super clear how the bookmarks to pep migration is supposed to be taking place, isn't it strongly advised for admins to run the command for pep-aware clients not to seemingly "lose" bookmarks ?
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[16:59:07] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: they're not lost afaik, but not in sync I guess
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[17:00:34] <rom1dep> Wouldn't most clients find the capability enabled, query pep, find nothing, stop there and possibly list an empty rooms list?
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[17:06:39] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: those that can't use the 'old' standard will behave the same, once you sync them...they'll see older too
If you don't sync, they'll see only newer ones you add from now on
(Afaik)
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[19:07:43] <manis> It could be that I'm asking this question in the wrong channel, but maybe someone has observed something similar before:
Today my nick started alterating between the nick I set when connecting to the MUC and the local part of my JID in an IRC-bridged and a Matrix-bridged channel.
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[19:08:07] <manis> First I thought it was a biboumi bug, but matrix.org's XMPP bridge does certainly not use biboumi.
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[19:09:11] <manis> su -
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[19:13:43] <Licaon_Kter> manis: matrix bridge is often broken
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[19:14:59] <manis> Licaon_Kter, this sounds legit, but then there was also a user on IRC who complained.
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[19:15:35] <manis> The biboumi is hosted by me, but I could not see anything in the logs.
[19:15:46] <Licaon_Kter> manis: dunno your hosted biboumi setup, dunno which client they used, etc
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[19:17:06] <manis> Licaon_Kter, sure, just wanted to ask if somebody has observed something similar before. I currently don't really know where to dig since there are many variables involved.
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[19:23:52] <Licaon_Kter> Eg. I've seen Dino do that on regular xmpp lol
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[19:32:26] <manis> Licaon_Kter, Thanks! That was a helpful comment, and it would not surprise me at all.
[19:33:11] <manis> But unlike in IRC/Matrix state changes of members are not usually shown in XMPP MUCs.
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[20:14:20] <Manis> Uuh, it seems Dino did it just before in this channel? Or at least Conversations told me that I have left the MUC while being in it from the same account.
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[21:38:42] <rom1dep> updated! so it seems there's no need to run bookmarks_to_pep manually after all, thanks to 86465c418d0f - Try to fill xep-0402 bookmarks from private storage on first access
am I reading this right? All in all, I have a PEP node full of bookmarks now, which seems novel :)
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[22:29:40] <Kris> I had to manually trigger a join all the channels in Gajim after upgrading. I assumed this was a result of the pep upgrade
[22:30:06] <Kris> the bookmarks where there as expected though, probably just not the auto-join flag
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