Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Tuesday, January 23, 2024< ^ >
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[04:38:31] <rossen> > rossen: why not slidge?
Its not well documented. I have not success with any transport with it
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[10:06:54] <rom1dep> > But I suspect it is using synapse and they are forced to do it by the agpl change 🤔
Kris: what makes you think that?
[10:08:44] <Kris> Why suddenly announce that they are opening up the code? Timing wise it fits to the AGPL switch of Synapse.
[10:09:26] <Kris> If they want to continue serving their enterprise customers they have to open it up now.
[10:09:33] <Licaon_Kter> Yup
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[10:32:58] <MattJ> Emru, FWIW communicating with Matrix users from XMPP is already possible in multiple ways
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[10:53:35] <rom1dep> Kris: I was under the assumption that this is part of P1's enterprise SAAS offering (fluux?), which, as far as I'm aware (assuming, again) is very much centered around ejabberd/BEAM.
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[10:53:54] <Kris> And?
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[10:54:34] <rom1dep> and synapse is alien to that stack
[10:55:15] <Zash> unless someone found a way to run Twisted Python on BEAM? :D
[10:55:16] <rom1dep> also, there's a blog post from P1 dated 2022-10-13 which corroborates that: "Matrix protoco added to ejabberd"
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[10:56:08] <rom1dep> anyway :)
[10:56:12] <Licaon_Kter> This^^^ yes, I expect native Matrix support, and bridge being built on top
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[11:01:04] <Kris> Probably similar to rocket chat. They tried and failed and then decided an appservice integration with Synapse is good enough.
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[11:01:27] <Kris> Matrix protocol is an mess...
[11:01:34] <Kris> Matrix protocol is a mess...
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[11:01:48] <rom1dep> I must say that I would love to see all Matrix spaces and rooms becoming available to my XMPP clients without half-broken bridges, but considering the unstable mess that is the Matrix protocol, I really don't know what to expect in terms of compliance, performance and effort to keep that running
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[11:11:43] <Kris> Otherwise you have all the issues with broken matrix rooms and insane storage requitements
[11:11:56] <Kris> Otherwise you have all the issues with broken matrix rooms and insane storage requirements.
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[11:15:54] <Holger> Kris, so from a quick look at the backlog you're deducing that P1 is "probably" doing Synapse from nothing but an announcement that Matrix code is going to be open sourced? 😂️
[11:16:31] <Holger> If one ever wonders how rumors get started ...
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[11:17:03] <Zash> Latest news: ejabberd has been rewritten in Python using the Twisted framework!
[11:17:11] <Zash> /s
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[11:17:59] <Holger> There's luerl that paves the way.
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[11:19:29] <Zash> Ah, then it's a simple matter of using lunatic or lupa to use python in lua in erlang!! :)
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[11:19:38] <Holger> \o/
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[11:25:42] <Kris> Well, if process-one was a little bit more forthcoming with details then there would be no need to speculate 😁
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[11:33:48] <Holger> Kris, I see a great yellow press career upcoming 😀️
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[12:49:12] <Licaon_Kter> OMG it has begun, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/506152d4e7b7d6710d4d99c5dcb68fa4c30650e0
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[12:51:14] <Zash> Slowly?
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[13:04:38] <latex> > unless someone found a way to run Twisted Python on BEAM? :D
Is it even worth using Synapse? Matrix has tried to replace Synapse for years. Synapse is a proof of concept. It's slow. A lot of Matrix homeservers are using Conduit now.
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[13:05:07] <latex> > unless someone found a way to run Twisted Python on BEAM? :D
Is it even worth using Synapse? Matrix has tried to replace Synapse for years. Synapse was born out of a proof of concept. It's slow. A lot of Matrix homeservers are using Conduit now.
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[13:05:54] <latex> > unless someone found a way to run Twisted Python on BEAM? :D
Is it even worth using Synapse? Matrix has tried to replace Synapse for years. Synapse was born out of a proof of concept. It's slow. Quite a few Matrix homeservers are using Conduit now.
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[13:13:45] <Kris> Conduit is continuously half broken, same with Dendrite. Which is the reason why most servers stick with Synapse.
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[13:16:47] <Licaon_Kter> latex: "tried to replace"? Lies
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[13:19:02] <latex> Oh well
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[22:25:10] <deimos> > OMG it has begun, https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/506152d4e7b7d6710d4d99c5dcb68fa4c30650e0
or this https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/6eff14a71d875b211e895d2e911de6813f227cc7
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[23:02:15] <deimos> I really wish I could bridge xmpp/mqtt/sip/matrix to one another
[23:02:58] <deimos> maybe not mqtt so much, since I don't need to talk to building equipment as a human, that often...only when it's not working and I want to reprimand it
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[23:10:18] <savagepeanut> >> unless someone found a way to run Twisted Python on BEAM? :D
> Is it even worth using Synapse? Matrix has tried to replace Synapse for years. Synapse was born out of a proof of concept. It's slow. Quite a few Matrix homeservers are using Conduit now.
Element certainly isn't trying to replace synapse since they removed sharding from dendrite. So synapse is the only server around that can do that
[23:10:43] <savagepeanut> Which is why it'd match perfectly in an integration with ejabberd ;p
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