Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Friday, February 2, 2024< ^ >
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[09:14:23] <stefan_> Good morning,
does anybody know, what this is? some connection attempts from unknow source to my ejabberd-mqtt:
```
num   pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
1        0     0 DROP       all  --  any    any     tor-exit-156.relayon.org  anywhere
2        0     0 DROP       all  --  any    any     tor-exit-2.zbau.f3netze.de  anywhere
3        0     0 DROP       all  --  any    any     23.129.64.220        anywhere
4        9   540 DROP       all  --  any    any     3be35768.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
5        3   180 DROP       all  --  any    any     b5fc67be.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
6        6   360 DROP       all  --  any    any     61fcef98.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
7        3   180 DROP       all  --  any    any     4addf5cd.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
8        6   360 DROP       all  --  any    any     0635fd7e.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
9        3   180 DROP       all  --  any    any     0ccac968.tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com  anywhere
```
[09:15:11] <stefan_> `tidalcoinage.internet-measurement.com` - do they lookup the mqtt with some special credentials?
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[09:39:56] <Licaon_Kter> Such is the internet, always be scanning
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[09:49:58] <stefan_> I'm glad that the ejabber-mqtt jail seems to recognise a few things, and then blocks the ip.
I'm under the impression it might also kick in on port scans, but I don't know if that's true?
In that way the ejabberd would be a small intrusion detection system?
[09:50:09] <stefan_> I'm glad that the ejabberd-mqtt jail seems to recognise a few things, and then blocks the ip.
I'm under the impression it might also kick in on port scans, but I don't know if that's true?
In that way the ejabberd would be a small intrusion detection system?
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[09:51:02] <Licaon_Kter> Just for mqtt? :))
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[09:53:10] <stefan_> you could run mqtt instances on any port you like.. ?
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[09:54:52] <stefan_> Let's say you were to distribute 10 mqtt instances over the entire port space, then you would be able to see something.
however, you would still have to have the functionality to recognise which port the errors are actually coming from.
[09:55:27] <stefan_> (that doesn't work at the moment with the log entries ejabberd provides).
[09:56:01] <stefan_> of course, this is surely not that what ejabberd is intended for ;-)
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[15:44:53] <stefan_> > Such is the internet, always be scanning
this reminds me a bit to the plot of a book i once red. intriguing story. do you know it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem_(novel)#Plot
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_drei_Sonnen
(the plot summary on the german wikipedia is much shorter)
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[15:46:41] <stefan_> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Probl%C3%A8me_%C3%A0_trois_corps
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[15:50:52] <stefan_> > of course, this is surely not that what ejabberd is intended for ;-)
one could think of to put an mqtt instance on 10 ports, of the most commonly used services, that are not used on this system.
do not immediately ban, but perhaups after the third port was met.
or not ban at all, just watch.
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[22:43:30] <stefan_> is it safe to set:
```
  mod_http_upload_quota:
    max_days: 0
```
?I
[22:43:39] <stefan_> Is this interpreted as "infinite" then?
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[22:44:47] <Licaon_Kter> stefan_: you have infinite storage space?
[22:45:20] <stefan_> :-)
no, but only a very small server.
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[22:47:05] <stefan_> I head a setting here, I don't remember what it was like before.
I want to achieve that all media that is shared via a muc will not be deleted. So that Persons who join later, can see everything that was written, lets say, up to.. hmm.  5 years or so at least.
If the total amount of data is not very much, I think a setting to infinite could be not problematic.
[22:48:06] <stefan_> I could do a simple shell script to check the size of the dirs and run it via cron, so I would be informed if there was a growing problem.
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[22:53:38] <stefan_> Or is it better to not activate mod_http_upload_quota at all for this case? (and the settings unter shaper_rules too)?
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[23:21:25] <stefan_> > I could do a simple shell script to check the size of the dirs and run it via cron, so I would be informed if there was a growing problem.
Is it possible to include something like that in logwatch?
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[23:23:52] <Licaon_Kter> > all media that is shared via a muc will not be deleted. So that Persons who join later, can see everything that was written,
A public channel you mean? + MAM? Yes
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[23:24:09] <Licaon_Kter> > Or is it better to not activate mod_http_upload_quota at all for this case? (and the settings unter shaper_rules too)?
Up to you
[23:24:51] <stefan_> no its a private channel.
[23:25:41] <stefan_> > can see everything that was written,
including pasted pictures
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[23:29:22] <Licaon_Kter> stefan_:
> no its a private channel.
Will that use omemo? I ask because new users can't decrypt past messages...
[23:29:44] <stefan_> no, no omemo planned.
[23:30:56] <Licaon_Kter> Ok
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[23:36:46] <stefan_> because of that reasen.
[23:37:53] <stefan_> It's supposed to be the group chat of a bigger residential complex, so It will be kind of a wiki where the residents should be able to do searches
[23:38:11] <stefan_> even those who join years later.
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[23:50:22] <stefan_> Best would indeed be forever.
but at the moment i can't reasonably estimate the amount of data that will be generated
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[23:52:14] <stefan_> > no its a private channel.
ah no, it says its a public channel, and encryption is therefore not available. but it's semi-anonym
[23:53:04] <Licaon_Kter> 👍
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