Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Sunday, February 11, 2024< ^ >
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[04:41:44] <zoidberg> Hello, I am trying to set up the "registration_watchers:"  and i want to know if implemented correctly, it would also return the users being registered via ejabberdctl?
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[12:59:30] <gidepi> Hi. New to this. Who are you people, what is ejabberd?
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[13:00:59] <zoidberg> 😂
[13:02:05] <zoidberg> Ejabberd is a XMPP server. XMPP is a protocol of instant messaging. You have used a XMPP client to send your question.
[13:03:23] <zoidberg> There are many XMPP clients and servers as well. And there are many people and organizations etc running their servers. Lots of these servers can talk to each other
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[13:04:06] <zoidberg> Example user from server  A can send messages and have chats with user from server B.
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[13:08:59] <gidepi> zoidberg: thank you! I learned a lot in few seconds! I wish our education system was similar! Why should I use ejabberd other than it's sexier name than conversations.im?
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[13:09:56] <zoidberg> Conversations.im is a client. Their server in particular i think it is running on Ejabberd
[13:11:00] <zoidberg> So Conversations.im and android app doing the function of a XMPP client connects to their server Ejabberd doing the function of a XMPP server.
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[13:13:51] <gidepi> zoidberg: wow! I would never guessed that. So ejabberd is a mother behind almost everything. And I can be on ejabberd too? Where is the registration page?
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[13:14:45] <zoidberg> If you are using Conversations.im using their own server you are already using an Ejabberd server.
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[13:16:07] <gidepi> Is there a site where all xmpp servers are listed?
[13:16:37] <zoidberg> _all_ the servers no
[13:17:02] <zoidberg> But there are some sites that show some public servers.
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[13:18:05] <gidepi> Room wise, it doesn't matter what client or server I use? I still see the same public chat rooms?
[13:18:31] <zoidberg> Exactly
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[13:19:01] <gidepi> Ok. Rooms can be hidden too?
[13:19:10] <zoidberg> Yes there are private rooms
[13:19:58] <gidepi> Thank you zoidberg! You have been very helpful. Now I know.
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[17:17:52] <gidepi> Are some rooms just fishing user data?
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[17:18:26] <gidepi> Example Disroot.
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[17:21:06] <gidepi> How secure is my chat if I go in random chat room? Depends on server?
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[17:21:34] <zoidberg> Define "secure"
[17:22:32] <zoidberg> Public room = anyone who joins the room can read anything you say.
[17:23:27] <zoidberg> So when in a public room behave like you are in a shopping or restaurant. Try to be at your best.
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[17:25:22] <gidepi> Well.. my gps went randomly ON after I joined Disroot room multiple times.
And the mod speaks like this "I don't feel like there's much more to gain in terms of data.."
[17:25:41] <zoidberg> ?
[17:25:43] <gidepi> Well.. my gps went randomly ON after I joined Disroot room, multiple times.
And the mod speaks like this "I don't feel like there's much more to gain in terms of data.."
[17:26:07] <gidepi> ? Exactly
[17:26:10] <zoidberg> I dont think this is possible.
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[17:27:05] <gidepi> Neither do I, but it happened.
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[17:27:09] <zoidberg> about your data there is not much
[17:27:19] <zoidberg> Your JID, your IP
[17:27:49] <zoidberg> Your client
[17:28:12] <zoidberg> Nothing else
[17:28:12] <gidepi> My GPS settings (lol)
[17:28:35] <zoidberg> The "GPS" i dont think it is possible
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[17:28:52] <zoidberg> You can change your permission settings
[17:29:19] <zoidberg> And not allow your app to use your GPS
[17:29:29] <gidepi> Ok.
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[17:31:49] <zoidberg> Maybe it was just a coincidence? The admin was talking to another person? I am not familiar with said room.
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[17:34:32] <gidepi> This is the whole text from him:
"I consider the experimental run overall a success, but easy come easy go.
I'll admit, the set was mildly helpful to recalibrate a bit what a hazardous "middle fat" troll is (darkenergy [not "goodenergy" is], whom some seem to not recognize as such despite all the traits signaling it's the case), what aged-like-wine corruption is (dngray, potentially might be more dangerous than darkenergy long-term) and an absurd conspiracist is (gidepi, who was recognized fast, thankfully). I don't feel like there's much more to gain in terms of data, and time is a finite resource, so it's to be optimized, and that means turning off."
So they are somewhat targeting or keeping track of users.
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[17:35:59] <zoidberg> I really dont think he is talking about you.
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[17:36:33] <zoidberg> Ah there is your name there?
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[17:36:35] <gidepi> He mentioned me (gidepi).
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[17:36:48] <gidepi> yes
[17:36:58] <zoidberg> And was you talking to him?
[17:37:04] <gidepi> No
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[17:37:49] <gidepi> To someone else
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[17:38:35] <zoidberg> Idk i cant even understand what he is saying 🤣
[17:38:45] <zoidberg> Its like a poem or something
[17:39:15] <gidepi> Could it be AI?
[17:39:23] <zoidberg> It could
[17:39:30] <zoidberg> Absolutely
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[17:41:35] <gidepi> AI bots in rooms. Hmmm. I didn't know they could be using this platform too. But now you said it, his messages were like automated.
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[17:56:49] <gidepi> In one message he pinpointed my location roughly. Could AI chatbot have my IP? That is very dangerous
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[17:59:01] <kinetik> IP geolocation isn't anything new, and it isn't accurate. I don't know why you're assuming this is a chatbot and not just a deranged human.
[18:00:26] <Holger> Other room members don't see your IP address anyway.
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[18:00:54] <Holger> gidepi: This room is about questions/discussions regarding the ejabberd server software.  Please ask those off-topic questions elsewhere.
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[18:01:06] <gidepi> Holger: ok
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