Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
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[08:16:16] <raver> Is Anyone using the latest ejabberd version with home assistant successfully?
I always get this:
```
2024-04-24 10:11:54.310091+02:00 [warning] <0.52259.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_auth_result/3:288 (tls|<0.52259.0>) Failed c2s SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS authentication from ::ffff:100.65.83.1: Invalid channel binding
```
even though I have set `disable_sasl_scram_downgrade_protection: true`
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[08:19:48] <raver> Home Assistent is using slixmpp 1.8.5: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/master/homeassistant/components/xmpp/manifest.json
And this is their notification script:
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/master/homeassistant/components/xmpp/notify.py
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[08:32:26] <MattJ> There were some fixes for SCRAM-*-PLUS in slixmpp 1.8.5, so be certain that you're using it: https://blog.mathieui.net/slixmpp-1.8.5.html
[08:32:40] <MattJ> I assume those changes were tested against ejabberd, but it would be good to confirm
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[08:39:29] <prefiks> so i see that too, it want to use tls-unique channel binding but uses tls1.3, and those doesn't work together
[08:40:11] <prefiks> so looks like a bug in xmpp lib it uses
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[08:40:33] <MattJ> That's what 1.8.5 is supposed to fix
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[08:41:27] <MattJ> Oh, but the bump to 1.8.5 was only committed to homeassistant 14 hours ago? :)
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[08:43:23] <MattJ> So I guess it will be fixed in the next release of HA
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[09:59:22] <raver> MattJ: the release is already there
[09:59:34] <raver> But still the same issue🥺
[09:59:57] <raver> https://github.com/home-assistant/core/milestone/661?closed=1
[10:00:29] <raver> https://upload.xmpp.rimkus.it/rimkus.it/share.php/f98f5ce56e3f04cdef2a1867d456b3eba148ef12/2T4HeWrtowZ7hVIkb9Ggp1i4hD6UxBsz6eE2IS0v/Screenshot_20240424-120019.png
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[10:03:26] <MattJ> If you confirmed that 1.8.5 works in other software against the same server, it still seems the most likely explanation is that your HA is still not using 1.8.5
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[10:03:30] <raver> prefiks: is it a viable workaround to disable tls1.3 in ejabberd, or is it a serious security issue?
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[10:03:41] <MattJ> It's not a serious security issue
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[10:04:04] <raver> I'll try to disable tls1.3 then for the time being
[10:04:47] <prefiks> c2s_protocol_options:
  - no_tlsv1_3
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[10:05:08] <raver> prefiks: Great thanks😊
[10:05:32] <raver> MattJ: I can't tell for sure, but I'm convinced that 1.8.5 is used, as the merge was in the milestone of 2024.04.4 which was released today, and now you can find it even in the master branch
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[10:07:01] <prefiks> i have older ha, so what i found may not be what happen with latest version, reason could be different, but if disabling tls1.3 fixes it that probably it still
[10:07:42] <raver> > c2s_protocol_options:
> - no_tlsv1_3
I can confirm this fixes it
[10:08:13] <prefiks> so probably still issue with trying to tls-unique and 1.3
[10:08:21] <prefiks> tls-unique works on tls1.2
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[10:08:46] <raver> Thanks prefiks 😊
[10:11:00] <MattJ> So someone should test 1.8.5 with ejabberd outside of HA
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[10:15:38] <Neustradamus> It is possible to speak on the cpython PR?
- https://codeberg.org/poezio/slixmpp/issues/3498#issuecomment-1784232
If no people inform that the PR is really important, there will be never a security solution...
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[11:17:05] <moparisthebest> Neustradamus: wrong channel?
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[11:19:19] <Neustradamus> moparisthebest: slixmpp is linked to the cpython problem... tls-exporter is for TLS 1.3:
- https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/95366
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[11:20:44] <moparisthebest> Neustradamus: this is the ejabberd channel though not the poezio channel...
[11:21:31] <Neustradamus> Have you seen previous messages?
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[11:24:16] <Neustradamus> The problem is in slixmpp but linked to cpython... The feature must be added in cpython to solve problem in several Python projects like slixmpp.
cpython team does not understand this problem...
The temporary solution is to disable TLS 1.3 that it is not really good.
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[11:36:19] <Neustradamus> Comments of people are needed to request the feature (to have a merging), to explain the security problem to downgrade, etc.
- https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/95366
For example, some other projects have the same slixmpp problem:
- https://github.com/crossbario/autobahn-python/issues/1584#issuecomment-1200496372
- https://github.com/tlocke/scramp/issues/9#issuecomment-1200472530
- https://github.com/JeffLIrion/adb_shell/issues/206#issuecomment-1551030234
- https://github.com/agronholm/anyio/issues/456
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[11:45:38] <rom1dep> https://www.erlang.org/blog/optimizations/ maybe of interest to some here :)
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[11:47:50] <Licaon_Kter> ldap+monal =\= <3 ?
https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/issues/1038
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[11:48:25] <Holger> Neustradamus:
> The feature must be added in cpython to solve problem in several Python projects like slixmpp.
The problem mentioned above was that tls-unique was being attempted with TLSv1.3, seems that can be solved within slixmpp:
https://codeberg.org/poezio/slixmpp/commit/992d80dd09e32ea5738904ec72f9c3c6a904f683
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[11:50:29] <Holger> Neustradamus: You're probably interested in tls-exporter support, which would be nice-to-have of course, but that's not required to solve the interop problem in question.
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[11:51:27] <Neustradamus> Holger: Only tls-exporter works with TLS 1.3, it is not supported by cpython. It is the problem, the PR is here:
- https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/95366
The solution to use TLS 1.2 (and to remove TLS 1.3 support) is not a solution...
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[11:52:22] <prefiks> another way is not trying to use channel binding on 1.3
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[11:53:49] <Holger> Neustradamus: The slixmpp commit doesn't remote TLSv1.3 support.  It does what prefiks just proposed, omit channel binding on 1.3.
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[11:54:54] <Neustradamus> Yes, it is the problem, CB with TLS 1.3 is not supported because of cpython...
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[11:55:18] <Holger> Neustradamus: Exactly.  As I said.  Channel binding on 1.3 would be nice to have of course, but it's not required to solve the problem we were discussing.  It's purely a feature wish of yours towards CPYthon.
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[11:57:13] <Neustradamus> I think that several people can explain the problem in the specified PR to have the support in cpython and that several projects will work correctly when it will be merged...
- https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/95366
If no request from people, there will be not a security solution...
[11:57:53] <Holger> Neustradamus: From looking at the CPython PR, you did a good job of expressing how strongly you wish for that feature.  Having us add even more useless "pretty PLEASE" comments won't help.
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[11:59:57] <Neustradamus> Hoger: Yes, I have done all but several people think that I am the only people who want this feature. So it will be never merged/fixed...
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[12:00:33] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Isn't that LDAP thing the known "Monal refuses to do PLAIN with SASL2" issue?
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[12:00:52] <Holger> Which I _think_ is fixed in Git?
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[12:56:50] <moparisthebest> Neustradamus: also slix could do public key pinning with DANE and/or XEP-0487 to get at least equivalent protection to channel binding *without* cpython support
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[15:59:27] <admin> No we don't want wait 3 weeks for conversations to fix realme calls.  We compiled it ourself.
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[16:01:03] <admin> > MattJ: I can't tell for sure, but I'm convinced that 1.8.5 is used, as the merge was in the milestone of 2024.04.4 which was released today, and now you can find it even in the master branch
Of what distro debian ?
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[17:04:10] <badlop> the ejabberd docs has been greatly improved, here is a summary of changes:
  https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-docs-now-using-mkdocs/
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[17:06:39] <Holger> badlop, awesome!
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[17:06:50] <Kris> Great!
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[17:08:10] <zoidberg> Thanks guys. It looks very nice.
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[17:17:05] <zoidberg> The examples included make it much easier!
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[19:17:06] <MarsIronPI> badlop, nice.  I noticed the change before reading this.  Gotta say it looks good.
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[19:25:19] <Holger> badlop, when using rebar3, da8c9f33572eb6c6ccff8f9fe71cd7b629bae575 breaks disabling optional dependencies, e.g., `./configure --disable-pam.`
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[19:29:18] <Holger> I'm all for adhering to rebar3 recommendations so I'm not sure what the proper fix would be 😕  rebar3.lock just doesn't play well with optional dependencies.
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[19:41:13] <Holger> Seems MongooseIM cheats by inisting on all dependencies being available at build time, it just supports omitting optional deps at run time.
For eturnal I have the super-professional solution of suggesting `rm -f rebar3.lock` in `doc/PACKAGING.md`.
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[19:43:50] <badlop> oh, i'll check that
[19:44:11] <badlop> there's also this :)
  rebar3 unlock --all
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[19:49:09] <Holger> But does that allow for omitting e.g. `epam` altogether (as opposed to just allowing for building a different version)?
[19:50:47] <badlop> i think no, it's just like "rm rebara3.lock"
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[20:53:47] <Holger> With `./configure --disable-pam && rm rebar3.lock && make`, epam isn't built at all.
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[22:33:17] <admin> > With `./configure --disable-pam && rm rebar3.lock && make`, epam isn't built at all.
Do you jave config to compile on debian 12 like installing it from .deb
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[22:39:25] <admin> Yessssss latest 2.15.3 work very well for our realme
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[23:59:49] <MarsIronPI> Hey.  Has anyone tested the Matrix gateway recently?  I'm just curious if it's working well now.
[23:59:58] <MarsIronPI> I read that there were some issues with it a while ago
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