ejabberd - Thursday, June 27, 2024

[10:34:55] <marc0s> hi, I'm in the need of disabling push notifications for a given jid/node from an external element (aka: some service that doesn't speak XMPP at all). I already have some custom modules that respond to HTTP requests and I was thinking on adding a path for managing such requests. By looking at `mod_push.erl`, though, I see that `disable/3` is not `export`ed so I cannot use it from my custom module. Any suggestion you may have on how to approach this? Thanks!

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[14:16:13] <Holger> marc0s, standard clients (re)enable notifications on reconnection. Assuming your clients are doing the same, I guess that's not desired? I.e. you want notifications disabled until explicitly reenabled by that external element?

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[14:56:41] <marc0s> Holger: we want to be able to disable notifications from that external element, based on some business logic. We already assume clients will enable them on reconnection.

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[14:57:18] <Holger> marc0s: So you disable them, the client looses the connection, opens a new session a minute later and that's fine?

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[14:57:39] <Holger> If no client is connected while you're disabling, it's a no-op?

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[15:20:16] <marc0s> Holger: we disable them for clients we know are offline or known to not resume the session anymore, because $reasons. It's not a public server with different kind of standard clients connected

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[15:25:52] <Holger> marc0s: Just trying to understand the exact requirements because the solutions would very much depend on those.

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[15:27:12] <Holger> marc0s: E.g. if you exported the disable/3 call, all you'd get is being able to disable notifications for a currently open session of an individual device. That's good enough?

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[15:32:57] <marc0s> holger, yes, that would work I think. When you refer to a session you mean a push session identified by the `node`, right?

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[15:35:25] <Holger> I mean an XMPP session.

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[15:36:20] <Holger> XMPP client reconnects and thereby usually recreates the push session (except when performing a 0198 resume).

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[15:38:13] <marc0s> holger, the thing is that we have a mobile app, with a session against another service and an xmpp session. That other service is the "main" one (chat is just one of the features). We have an scenario where a massive logout of users is done at than "main" service and the app is _always_ in the background, so the XMPP session is hibernated. When those mobile apps go back to foreground, they initiate a new login (and have no local state and no knowledge of the previous XMPP session at all). So those push sessions are kept in the server hibernated. Those are the ones we want to actively disable.

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[15:39:24] <marc0s> and the information I have to disable that push registration is the `jid` and the `node`
[15:40:28] <Holger> Ah. So they don't end up using the same resource sting and push node?

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[15:40:39] <marc0s> no

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[15:41:02] <Holger> Not sure what 'push proxy' ('app server') you're using, can't you clean up those session there?

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[15:41:49] <Holger> That service should then return a permanent error on the next push attempt, in which case mod_push will clean up the stale push subscription on the ejabberd side.

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[15:42:27] <marc0s> didn't thought of that, that might work
[15:42:39] <Holger> But yes if that's not an option you could initiate the cleanup from the ejabberd side as well, but would require a new call indeed.

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[15:43:02] <Holger> _Or_ just lookup/delete the session in SQL :-)

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[15:44:04] <marc0s> will keep that as a last resort :)

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[15:44:59] <marc0s> > That service should then return a permanent error on the next push attempt, in which case mod_push will clean up the stale push subscription on the ejabberd side.
The referred IQ-error in here, right? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0357.html#sect-idm34057376417568

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[15:45:30] <Holger> Yup.

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[15:46:04] <Holger> Or maybe you _could_ inject a <disable/> request using the existing send_stanza call: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0357.html#disabling
[15:46:06] <Holger> But ewww.
[15:46:29] <marc0s> 😅️

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[15:47:36] <marc0s> do you have at hand where the error and therefore the cleanup is handled or what can I grep for?
[15:47:56] <Holger> Back at my desk in 10 minutes, I'll ping you.
[15:48:02] <marc0s> appreciated :)
[15:48:09] <marc0s> thanks for the guidance, holger :)

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[15:49:40] <Holger> marc0s: Found it on the phone:
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/27ba09debf38cd0a87928cbe3a907dcaea24017a/src/mod_push.erl#L495
[15:49:57] <Holger> The following lines.

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[15:50:06] <marc0s> thanks!

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[18:26:51] <sezuan> Mickaël mentioned that it should be possible to join unencrypted rooms in matrix via the new gateway. While I was able to write to 'normal' accounts, I wasn't able yet to join a room. How should I rewrite the room address to a jid? The example doesn't mention what to do with '#' and '@' character in the matrix address.
[18:27:27] <Kris> Matrix makes no differentiation between that.
[18:27:45] <Kris> Everything is a room, even 1:1 chats

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[18:28:20] <sezuan> So it's just an indicator for humans to distinguish the different address types?
[18:28:25] <Holger> Matrix makes 1:1 chat a special case of rooms, and one of the specifics is the addressing.

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[18:38:52] <rom1dep> I'd love a write-up/step-by-step of what's possible to do with this bridge at the moment, because everything I tried failed spectacularly

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[18:43:40] <sezuan> Yeah, I think it's in an early stage and not yet really usable. At least I've seen successful 1:1 chats.

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[23:18:17] <fjklp> is it expected that a server reboot would change an occupant id for a given MUC and JID combination?
[23:18:57] <fjklp> whether it be server reboot or ejabberd restart

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