ejabberd - Sunday, June 30, 2024

[13:24:30] <blue> May I ask for a quick advice?
What exactly do these warnings mean?
2024-06-30 13:19:21.736295+00:00 [warning] <0.18213.0>@ejabberd_s2s_in:handle_auth_failure/4:200 (tls|<0.18213.0>) Failed inbound s2s EXTERNAL authentication debian.org -> macaw.me (2001:41b8:202:deb:1b1b::92): Failed to get peer certificate
Is there some misconfiguration on my side? Or is it an issue with debian.org certificate?

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[13:29:08] <Kris> I had a similar question regarding such an error with xmppbl.org

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[13:30:22] <Kris> > "No certificate provided" is a warning on the Prosody side, it's not a hard problem if Dialback is still enabled, more of an indicator of not being Modern XMPP
[13:30:38] <Kris> Was what one of the Prosody devs said

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[13:30:56] <Kris> But no suggestions how to fix it in ejabberd

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[13:31:26] <Zash> Kris, you had the reverse problem

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[13:31:39] <Kris> Heh, fine 😅
[13:31:47] <blue> they always have been in the logs, and I have the dialback s2s module, it's just for some reason they are more frequent now

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[13:32:28] <blue> > Kris, you had the reverse problem
So... it's means I did something wrong?
[13:32:40] <Zash> blue, no, means something's weird on the debian.org side

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[13:33:05] <Kris> I did see my "reverse issue" also with the macaw server yes.

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[13:33:17] <Zash> Kris, your problem is on your side. I hope you weren't expecting me, the Prosody dev, to tell you how to fix an ejabberd problem?

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[13:33:32] <Kris> Of course not

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[13:37:45] <Zash> Hm, wait, peer certificate? Maybe it's a different thing

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[13:37:53] <Holger> I've followed the conversation in Modern XMPP but am unsure what the "ejabberd problem" would be. Emitting a warning on failed cert auth seems fine to me.

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[13:38:38] <Kris> Yeah, but why does it fail?

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[13:38:50] <Holger> Oh something fails? Then I misunderstood you.
[13:38:58] <Holger> Ah the cert auth fails.

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[13:39:01] <Zash> Why did it not send a client certificate?

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[13:39:20] <Zash> That was what xmppbl.org said about Kris' server
[13:39:21] <Holger> I'd ask a Prosody dev :D

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[13:39:31] <Holger> Zash: I mean the debian.org case.

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[13:40:49] <Holger> Kris: You don't see that xmppbl.org problem with other server?

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[13:42:06] <Holger> Kris: You don't see that xmppbl.org problem with other servers?
[13:42:08] <Zash> Holger, the blue → debian.org thing, isn't that the ejabberd side failing? It's acting the server, debian.org asks to be authenticated with SASL EXTERNAL probably?

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[13:43:16] <Holger> Zash: "Failed *inbound* auth" means macaw.me refuses to authenticate debian.org because it failed to get a client cert.

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[13:44:01] <Kris> Holger: I would need to watch the logs more closely, but at least it isn't common with other servers.

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[13:44:42] <Zash> Holger, is this the thing where ejabberd offers EXTERNAL anyway?

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[13:45:08] <Zash> Even if is is guaranteed to fail

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[13:53:44] <blue> Hmmm, I've lost quite some of the servers I was able to connect before, this one, for example...
2024-06-30 13:51:50.185741+00:00 [info] <0.373.0>@ejabberd_listener:accept/7:344 (<0.19015.0>) Accepted connection [::ffff:5.255.91.84]:57422 -> [::ffff:45.79.76.58]:5270
2024-06-30 13:51:50.777853+00:00 [warning] <0.19015.0>@ejabberd_s2s_in:handle_auth_failure/4:200 (tls|<0.19015.0>) Failed inbound s2s EXTERNAL authentication joinjabber.org -> macaw.me (::ffff:5.255.91.84): Failed to get peer certificate
2024-06-30 13:51:50.927822+00:00 [info] <0.19015.0>@ejabberd_s2s_in:process_closed/2:132 Closing inbound s2s connection joinjabber.org -> macaw.me: Stream reset by peer

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[13:57:10] <Holger> Zash:
> Holger, is this the thing where ejabberd offers EXTERNAL anyway?
That's been fixed ages ago.

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[13:57:31] <Holger> (And I think the XEP that told us to do it that way was updated as well.)

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[13:58:25] <blue> My version is not the freshest (23.10), may it be the issue?

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[14:07:01] <zoidberg> Failed to get peer certificate doesnt mean that the "other" server is lacking the proper certificates for the s2s?

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[14:08:05] <zoidberg> If thats the case then its not your server problem. Its the other server problem.
[14:08:37] <Holger> Yes but you gotta watch out whether it's your server complaining or whether it's your server logging the remote server's complaint.

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[14:09:32] <Holger> > If thats the case then its not your server problem. Its the other server problem.
Looks like this indeed. Just not sure whether you could trigger that problem with certain OpenSSL configs or so.

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[14:30:35] <zoidberg> Which one its the safest 5269 or 5270? I see that blue connection is on the 5270. I think that most of my s2s are all on thr 5269. Might this be a reason for his failed connection?
[14:32:03] <zoidberg> Actually never mind. Dont want to ruin your guys weekend. I will search myself here😬

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[15:22:07] <Frank> FWIW: `openssl s_client -starttls xmpp-server -xmpphost joinjabber.org -connect 5.255.91.84:5269` returns a proper certificate chain.

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[15:25:52] <Frank> But *joinjabber.org* is STARTTLS only, maybe *macaw.me* enforces direct TLS for s2s connections? ( blue )

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[17:46:03] <blue> Thank you so much for the hint, I'll check soon

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[19:08:57] <blue> it appers - you're right, here is what i have in the config about ports
63 listen:
64   -
65     port: 5222
66     ip: "::"
67     module: ejabberd_c2s
68     max_stanza_size: 262144
69     shaper: c2s_shaper
70     access: c2s
71     starttls: true
72   -
73     port: 5223
74     ip: "::"
75     module: ejabberd_c2s
76     max_stanza_size: 262144
77     shaper: c2s_shaper
78     access: c2s
79     tls: true
80   -
81     port: 5269
82     ip: "::"
83     shaper: s2s_shaper
84     module: ejabberd_s2s_in
85     max_stanza_size: 524288
86   -
87     port: 5270
88     ip: "::"
89     shaper: s2s_shaper
90     module: ejabberd_s2s_in
91     max_stanza_size: 524288
92     tls: true
and here are my server records. I set them up like this because i didn't really knew the correct way. May I ask for an advice if this is a fine way to set them up?
[19:09:54] <blue> https://macaw.me:5443/upload/fd7e6dd84ba3a2dddb8c4e0fdfc26b3b0c704913/Y6MTo3jjya8ozBXdI7CweVLVdpEC1e9efwmx4Pfa/Screenshot_20240630_160913.png

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[20:14:54] <Frank> The config option I had in mind is the toplevel option `s2s_use_starttls` which defaults to *false*. This could be the culprit when trying s2s with servers that offer 5269 only and enforce STARTTLS on that port. Try setting `s2s_use_starttls: optional`

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[20:17:19] <Zash> Are listeners where you configure outgoing connections?

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[20:19:04] <Frank> Nope, but as I understand it `s2s_use_starttls` should affect the outgoing connections.

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[22:10:21] <blue> i have "s2s_use_starttls: optional" lower in the config, but mu concern that "tls: true" disables starttls on that port

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[22:31:42] <Frank> Yes, it does. STARTTLS and TLS are mutually exclusive per design.

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[22:51:32] <blue> so... what is the correct thing to do then? I mean, still asking for advice because it looks like I misunderstood the idea and ended up with not quite working configuration which I don't entirely understand
Shall I add one more port for starttls? Shall I remove tls option from 5270? Than it's going to be the same as 5269... Shall I remove it completely then? Shall I just change "tls" to "starttls" there at 5270? Is it supported? Shall I just ignore it because, I don't know, it's a misinterpretation of the protocol from the other party?

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[23:01:05] <Kris> dunno, your config looks fine at first glance. I think this explains it similarly: https://joinjabber.org/tutorials/self-hosted/ejabberd/

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[23:01:30] <Kris> and I also have a similar config which appears to be working more or less

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[23:07:33] <blue> I may have actually followed this guide, or at least partially. It kinda works, there are some warnings in the logs, but I thought those were malconfigured servers.
Funny thing that now I cant connect to exactly to joinjabber since yesterday. I updated the system, something might have changed about libraried, but ejabberd didn't got updated, and I din't touch the config

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[23:12:17] <Kris> I can ask of there is anything odd in the joinjabber.org server logs (I don't have direct access)

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