ejabberd - Wednesday, July 3, 2024

[07:29:02] <Mickaël> Github issues, discussions (forum part) and PR
[07:29:09] <zoidberg> I am all for free speech, we all know the difference between jokes and offenses

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[07:29:19] <Mickaël> Yes, I think so

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[07:30:37] <Mickaël> The idea is to make notifications list readable on Github, showing only when something is really new

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[07:35:35] <zoidberg> BTW, just so i know. Since i last updated to the latest version i was not able to access the webadmin, a couple of other community members also reported here on the chat the same experience. Is this something already acknowledge by you devs?

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[07:36:06] <zoidberg> BTW, just so i know. Since i last updated to the latest version i was not able to access the webadmin, a couple of other community members also reported here on the chat the same experience. Is this something already acknowledged by you devs?

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[07:39:56] <Mickaël> No, not yet, it seems there is no ticket about that

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[07:43:13] <rossen> > BTW, just so i know. Since i last updated to the latest version i was not able to access the webadmin, a couple of other community members also reported here on the chat the same experience. Is this something already acknowledged by you devs?
24.06? Released 5 days ago?

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[07:43:20] <zoidberg> Yes

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[07:43:57] <rossen> I am still on 24.04. Will test it in the evening
[07:44:13] <rossen> I am still on 24.02. Will test it in the evening

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[07:45:56] <Mickaël> Thanks
[07:45:59] <zoidberg> Some people also reported that it was working well on his docker installation, but not on his fedora install.

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[07:46:20] <zoidberg> In my case my servers are running on Ubuntu

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[07:46:26] <Mickaël> Maybe the difference is about the Erlang OTP version ?

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[07:47:40] <zoidberg> could be. AFAIK no one of the users who experienced the issue had a workaround until now. At least no body said it yet.

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[07:59:49] <zoidberg> > humm, fun, for some reason, the new webadmin comes up empty here
[08:00:25] <zoidberg> This was the first
[08:00:40] <zoidberg> then we agreed that we were receiving the same thing on the logs, which is

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[08:01:09] <zoidberg> >> i stumbled in the same. the logs say: "Access to WebAdmin page vhosts/ for account admin@example.com was denied"
> I confirm I get the same access denied row in my logs

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[08:03:32] <Mickaël> ok thanks, it may be related to the way the URL is accessed.

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[08:06:55] <Mickaël> I created this issue to track it: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4243

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[08:07:32] <zoidberg> Thx

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[08:11:43] <prefiks> zoidberg: could you tell me if http url that you use for admin have same domain as domain of your server?

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[08:12:37] <zoidberg> Well, at first i port forwarded with putty, and did localhost:(forgot the port number)

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[08:13:33] <zoidberg> IIRC i also tried to portforward the port and access it via IP
[08:13:45] <zoidberg> But AFAIK never tried the domain name

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[08:14:51] <prefiks> ok, i rember at some point we had issue with picking what domain to use for authentication when url didn't match any domain assigned in server maybe something similar happens here

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[08:15:55] <zoidberg> i dont leave this port exposed, so that i use putty for portforward.

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[08:16:37] <zoidberg> And the second case (via IP), the server is on LAN, so it was like: 192.168.1.2:port

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[08:16:57] <prefiks> i think it should work with whatever you use, just wanted to know how that looks on your server, to be able to reproduce this

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[08:23:46] <zoidberg> I can test this later, maybe just edit the hosts file to point to that IP internally.

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[08:23:53] <zoidberg> Then it should be able to work

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[09:06:37] <zoidberg> hello, i just did test. what i did was Example: edit my hosts file to point to 192.168.1.2 "example.com".

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[09:06:51] <zoidberg> where 192.168.1.2 is the server.

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[09:07:09] <zoidberg> then accessed the webadmin via: example.com:5280/admin

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[09:07:34] <zoidberg> and the result was the same. white screen.

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[09:08:59] <badlop> i've commented the possible reason for that, see
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4243#issuecomment-2205484971

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[09:10:25] <zoidberg> ah, sorry, gonna try that now.

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[09:46:28] <zoidberg> i tried a couple of things, and didnt work out. last attempt was adding this to "api_permissions" in the believe that i would be able to do all commands as long as logged as an admin user using localhost.

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[09:46:37] <zoidberg> "webadmin commands":
    from:
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    who:
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        allow:
          - acl: admin
          - acl: loopback
    what:
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[09:54:52] <zoidberg> that being said, i might not be the the sharpest knife in the arsenal. and if you guys were not able to reproduce this issue, then i must be doing something wrong.

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[09:56:25] <badlop> does webadmin show the header, navigation bar, and welcome text... or nothing at all completely empty page?

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[09:56:40] <zoidberg> yes
[09:57:28] <zoidberg> 1 min

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[10:12:02] <zoidberg> https://share.conversations.im/zoidberg/NbVPlTfbhk70yV9x/ejabberdwebadmin.jpg

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[10:14:38] <Licaon_Kter> Seeing the same ^^^
[10:14:50] <zoidberg> you took until now to say?????
[10:15:03] <Licaon_Kter> I tested now...

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[10:15:23] <Licaon_Kter> The template UI stuff is there, but not the actual server content

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[10:17:11] <badlop> looks like the account that logged in webadmin does not have permission to execute any command, not even the "echo" command
[10:17:28] <badlop> what if you remove the line "- acl: loopback" ?

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[10:19:40] <prefiks> yes, try leaving only - acl: admin
[10:20:20] <prefiks> those two rules must match at this same time, and that will only allow acces from 127.0.0.1

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[10:29:33] <zoidberg> "admin access":
    who:
      access:
        allow:
          - acl: admin

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[10:29:46] <zoidberg> like this?
[10:29:56] <zoidberg> didnt work either

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[10:30:17] <prefiks> "webadmin commands":
   from:
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   who:
     access:
       allow:
         - acl: admin
   what:
     - "*"

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[10:30:46] <prefiks> that from: part is important here

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[10:34:20] <zoidberg> Afraid it didnt work.

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[10:35:37] <badlop> maybe there is other element in api_permission that takes precendence and is applied instead?

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[10:36:57] <zoidberg> can i show you in pvt my whole api_permissions: section?

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[10:37:38] <prefiks> i don't think so, we will try all rules in order until one grant access, you can't make one rules disable other rules

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[10:38:32] <prefiks> git push
[10:38:38] <prefiks> eh, wrong window

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[10:48:34] <prefiks> ok, i think this is issue with domain in url used to access webadmin, if you use domain that is not registered in ejabberd hosts i think you get this.

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[10:50:04] <prefiks> i think i have patch that should fix this

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[10:50:46] <badlop> ah, seems so :S

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[10:50:59] <zoidberg> Thx guys.

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[10:52:55] <prefiks> https://pastebin.com/prXbp5P3

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[10:53:34] <prefiks> if someone can test this, please try it, if not i will commit that in a bit

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[10:54:07] <prefiks> fixes that for me, but maybe there is also soemthign else at play
[10:54:22] <badlop> with that patch, the problem you mentioned is now solved

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[11:20:57] <Сергій> > Сергій: you use authentication option for that it can look like this:
> modules:
>   mod_mqtt_bridge:
>     authentication:
>       username: "user"
>       password: "pass"
>
Thanks for the help!
Tried as follows...
mod_mqtt_bridge:
    servers:
      "mqtt://mqtt.server":
        publish:
          "mesh/#": "mesh/#" # local changes to 'localA' will be replicated on remote server as 'remoteA'
        subscribe:
          "mesh/#": "mesh/#" # changes to 'remoteB' on remote server will be stored as 'localB' on local server
        authentication:
           username: "user"
           password: "password"
    replication_user: "user@xmpp"
But nothing happened...
ejabberd server restarted fine. Messages to mqtt://mqtt.server arrive, but ejabberd does not pick them up from there.
The ejabberd logs are clean.
Can this be fixed?

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[11:27:39] <prefiks> so this doesn't work with wildcards (if this is what you are trying to do here with #)

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[11:28:24] <prefiks> you need to use full node name, also you don't want both to publish and then subscribe to same node, it will make loop

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[11:47:34] <zoidberg> badlop: i never compiled ejabberd from source before.

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[12:08:00] <blue> I have nothing displayed in admin section after upgrade to 24.06 too. The solution is the patch, right? No reconfiguration needed?
I also wanted to ask again about my matrix bridge issue, would you mind then if I open a ticket?
[12:08:26] <prefiks> sure, go ahead

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[12:09:13] <zoidberg> About the "reconfiguration needed": "webadmin commands":
   from:
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   who:
     access:
       allow:
         - acl: admin
   what:
     - "*"

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[12:12:51] <blue> Thank you! Mind if I ask where should this section be?

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[12:13:08] <prefiks> access_rules:

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[12:13:51] <prefiks> but if you are accessing webadmin using host that doesn't match what is in ejabberd, you will need that patch i posted
[12:14:10] <zoidberg> Wasnt it on api_permissions?
[12:14:14] <zoidberg> Darn it.
[12:14:21] <prefiks> er yes, api_permissions

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[12:14:58] <zoidberg> Phew. I was questioning my sanity here.

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[12:25:59] <zoidberg> It works
[12:26:32] <zoidberg> The fix do works.
[12:26:42] <prefiks> cool

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[12:27:46] <zoidberg> rom1dep: ^^^

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[12:29:13] <zoidberg> Thx guys👍👍

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[14:04:04] <rom1dep> I'll recompile this evening

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[14:04:15] <rom1dep> Thanks for the highlight 🙂

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[14:48:21] <Kris> any progress on this? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/3161

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[14:48:39] <Kris> pre-auth tokens as in XEP-0445

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[14:49:29] <Kris> basic functionality like a shared secret for registration links would be cool already

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[15:03:22] <Kris> also, any idea what exactly is going on with the channel discovery on conference.conversations.im ?
[15:03:33] <Kris> it seems to only return chinese channels

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[15:04:02] <Kris> am I guessing that the query is somehow alphabetical and cuts off after a certain number?

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[15:04:36] <Daniel> > am I guessing that the query is somehow alphabetical and cuts off after a certain number?
Yes

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[15:04:51] <Daniel> Why is everyone obsessed with the channel discovery lately?
[15:05:04] <Daniel> Has this ever been useful?

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[15:05:14] <Kris> on small servers yes
[15:05:15] <Daniel> As opposed to search.jabber.network

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[15:05:28] <Kris> Cheogram has a nice feature to show related channels

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[15:05:38] <Daniel> > on small servers yes
Oh sure. But I mean specifically on conference.conversations.im

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[15:05:58] <Kris> well, I am just asking because others are asking what is going wrong there ;)

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[15:06:17] <Kris> is there a way to filter it by language setting maybe?
[15:06:39] <Daniel> I mean it has always been extremely noisy with empty / abandoned chats and stuff, no?

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[15:07:55] <Kris> on large servers, yes... like on large IRC networks

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[15:08:11] <Kris> but it could be useful with some filters

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[15:10:06] <Daniel> But I guess our server is now suddenly popular in China? Even if you search on s.j.n which sorts by user count there are a bunch of Chinese ones

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[15:10:45] <Daniel> Which seem relatively legit fwiw

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[15:10:54] <Kris> yes there is a group of chinese users that made a nice manual for xmpp and have promoting it in their (political) groups

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[15:11:32] <Kris> they came by in the joinjabber.org support channels and asked a bunch of questions a few months ago

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[15:12:14] <Kris> and apparently its already popular enough for the chinese authorities requesting Monal to be kicked off the apple app store
[15:12:31] <Kris> (Playstore is blocked anyways in China afaik)

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[15:15:27] <Mike Yellow> > Has this ever been useful?
This is pretty useful for Chinese since most of Chinese users gathered in (conference.)conversations.im .

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[15:15:49] <Mike Yellow> And much more useful without showing foreign rooms.

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[15:17:56] <Mike Yellow> In search.jabber.network, Chinese rooms are behind many foreign rooms.

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[15:19:01] <Kris> hmm, yes actually a feature to filter by language setting in s.j.n would be nice as well

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[15:19:30] <Mike Yellow> That is also what I want to say next.

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[15:19:46] <Kris> I'll open a feature request ticket on their source repo
[15:19:47] <Mike Yellow> (^_^)

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[15:20:37] <Kris> actually already exists: https://codeberg.org/jssfr/muchopper/issues/44

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[15:26:15] <Mike Yellow> > am I guessing that the query is somehow alphabetical and cuts off after a certain number?
Does it mean that clients should add an “add more” button to request the server to return more rooms?

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[15:26:24] <Mike Yellow> > am I guessing that the query is somehow alphabetical and cuts off after a certain number?
Does it mean that clients should add an “show more” button to request the server to return more rooms?

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[15:28:15] <Mickaël> > pre-auth tokens as in XEP-0445
No progress yet, but it would be handy

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[15:31:02] <Mike Yellow> >am I guessing that the query is somehow alphabetical and cuts off after a certain number?
Is this a custom feature by conversations.im or a feature originally designed by the Ejabberd developers?
[15:31:05] <Kris> > Does it mean that clients should add an “show more” button to request the server to return more rooms?
some sort of pagination yes, but it's better to discuss this in the Gajim channel

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[15:31:38] <Kris> it is probably some default in ejabberd

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[15:38:43] <Mike Yellow> Yes, it shows exact 100 items, it looks like a pagination.

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[15:40:22] <prefiks> ejabberd limits rooms returned by disco by to 100 (that's configurable)

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[15:40:59] <Mike Yellow> Thank you for answering.

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[16:24:45] <rom1dep> prefiks: I tried your patch for the admin missing content issue, but that alone didn't fix it, do I need to tweak the config after all? What I'm using for api_permissions is identical to what's in the sample config,so if something needs to be changed there, it's probably good to push an updated ejabberd.yml.example

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[16:25:49] <zoidberg> > About the "reconfiguration needed": "webadmin commands":
> from:
> - ejabberd_web_admin
> who:
> access:
> allow:
> - acl: admin
> what:
> - "*"

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[16:27:03] <zoidberg> add to api_permissions Starting from the "webadmin commands"

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[16:29:45] <rom1dep> that does the trick, thanks

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[16:30:18] <rom1dep> that definitely deserves being brought to the sample config

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[16:32:55] <zoidberg> I concur, i also usually try to peak on the sample for doing my configs.

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[16:33:56] <zoidberg> I concur, i also usually try to peek on the sample for doing my configs.

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[16:39:42] <rom1dep> the shared roster groups page comes up empty, FWIW

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[16:43:51] <badlop> completely blank page? there may be a problem in the code, check ejabberd log files, and submit an issue if you have some relevant ERROR text

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[17:06:40] <Kris> !version suchat.org

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[17:07:04] <Kris> bot down? or is it running Prosody?

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[17:07:28] <rom1dep> badlop, it's a crash indeed:
2024-07-03 19:06:49.538554+02:00 [error] <0.883.0>@ejabberd_hooks:safe_apply/4:460 Hook webadmin_page_host crashed when running mod_shared_roster:webadmin_page/3:
** exception error: bad generator undefined
[17:07:31] <Mike Yellow> suchat.org ejabberd 24.6.1

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[17:08:14] <Kris> ah, that is up to date. The probably forgot to enable the uinique occupant id module

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[17:08:25] <Mike Yellow> ………………

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[17:08:29] <Mike Yellow> Alright.

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[17:08:41] <Servant> Kris: !version suchat.org resulted in: remote-server-timeout
[17:08:42] <Kris> ah, that is up to date. The probably forgot to enable the unique occupant id module

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[17:14:25] <Mike Yellow> !version process-one.net
[17:14:26] <Servant> Mike Yellow: process-one.net is running ejabberd version 4.2402.9 on unix/linux 4.19.58

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[17:14:53] <Mike Yellow> What a weird number.

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[17:18:59] <rom1dep> badlop: here you go: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4245

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[17:21:42] <Kris> > What a weird number.
enterprise version of ejabberd

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[17:45:53] <Kris> how far is https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0425.html message moderation actually supported on ejabberd?

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[17:46:30] <Kris> I thought it was and remember it working, but now on 24.06 I get a "can't moderate" response in Cheogram

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[17:46:45] <Kris> and it is also not working in Gajim, but no response at all

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[17:48:46] <Kris> hmm, https://xmpp.org/software/ejabberd/ claims it was only added in 24.06?

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[17:50:40] <Kris> ejabberd changelog says 23.04 🤔️

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[17:51:44] <Holger> The XEP was updated a few months ago. Didn't check but IIRC we supported the old revision before 24.06 and the new one now.
[17:51:47] <Kris> ah: `mod_mam: Update support for XEP-0425 version 0.3.0, keep supporting 0.2.1`

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[17:52:16] <Kris> yet somehow it seems to have broken it in the clients I tried

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