ejabberd - Friday, July 5, 2024

[07:44:57] <Licaon_Kter> prefiks: if it's a new/clean clone there's no need for make update, just autogen.sh, configure, make
[07:45:29] <prefiks> yes, just wanted to make sure, as i did update xmpp dep
[07:45:52] <prefiks> ah, didn't catch that this was new copy
[07:46:22] <Licaon_Kter> I was after that info too :s
[07:46:26] <Licaon_Kter> I was after that info too :)

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[07:53:56] <Licaon_Kter> Mickaël: re: Signal blog post, _"It is interesting to note that Signal does not store message history on the server. Message history is stored on the client."_ that is not true, they are a store-and-forward protocol too, Moxie kept explaining this on twitter

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[07:55:41] <Licaon_Kter> Maybe they don't have MAM-like but only offline-like things, since they are not multiclient, but messages need to be stored until retrieved, files too. Else, why need storage at all? For phone numbers? Lol

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[08:13:45] <Mickaël> > Mickaël: re: Signal blog post, _"It is interesting to note that Signal does not store message history on the server. Message history is stored on the client."_ that is not true, they are a store-and-forward protocol too, Moxie kept explaining this on twitter
This is not message history, this is store and forward to cope with offline people (there is no other way around), but once a message the device they do not keep an history.
[08:14:28] <Mickaël> So this is just a transient storage. Otherwise, they would need a *lot* more

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[08:15:15] <Mickaël> Some platforms offers to store months of messages history, so that's the point of my remark, they need to plan for more storage that Signal.
[08:15:24] <Mickaël> Some platforms offers to store months of messages history, so that's the point of my remark, they need to plan for more storage than Signal.

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[08:17:17] <Licaon_Kter> I understand, by saying "does not store" means something else. Also "history" means nothing in this context.... messages are messages, until they get picked up ...they are "history"

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[08:21:39] <MattJ> Signal stores messages on their server for up to 21 days IIRC

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[08:30:34] <Mickaël> Yes, but that's only for store and forward, not keeping and history, right ?

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[08:33:44] <Mickaël> "Signal does not store message data on its server after messages have been passed to a device. This means that when a new device is registered, chat history is not synced."
I think it means you need to connect at least once every 21 days to avoid the risk of message loss

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[08:53:48] <prefiks> stefan: i see you get expection in config load, could you post that whole error you got?

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[09:26:27] <badlop> i've summarized the problems in webadmin, explanation and solutions in
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4249
it's pinned in the issue tracker, so people see it the first

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[09:48:17] <ghost> I just use the master branch, it's fixed there.
```
cat ./docker-compose.yml
...
services:
ejabberd:
image: ghcr.io/processone/ejabberd:master
...
```

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[09:50:10] <stefan> >stefan: i see you get expection in config load, could you post that whole error you got?
prefiks:
2024-07-05 11:09:27.995069+02:00 [info] Loading configuration from /usr/local/etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.yml
2024-07-05 11:09:28.030018+02:00 [critical] Failed to start ejabberd application: Exception occurred during configuration processing. This is most likely due to faulty/incompatible validator in third-party code. If you are not running any third-party code, please report the bug with ejabberd configuration file attached and the following stacktrace included:
** exception error: undefined function jid:decode/1
   in function  econf:'-domain/0-fun-0-'/1 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/src/econf.erl, line 484)
   in call from yconf:'-list/2-fun-0-'/3 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/yconf/src/yconf.erl, line 542)
   in call from lists:mapfoldl_1/3 (lists.erl, line 1462)
   in call from yconf:'-list/2-fun-1-'/3 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/yconf/src/yconf.erl, line 538)
   in call from yconf:'-non_empty/1-fun-0-'/2 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/yconf/src/yconf.erl, line 523)
   in call from yconf:validate_option/3 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/yconf/src/yconf.erl, line 1244)
   in call from yconf:validate_options/8 (/home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/yconf/src/yconf.erl, line 1221)

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[10:45:36] <prefiks> stefan: looks like not compiled properly (it looks like xmpp dependency was not compiled)

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[10:45:50] <prefiks> you didn't have any error during compilation?

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[11:17:44] <stefan> prefiks: No error
24.06.13
https://paste.dismail.de/?2bfb3c751fa75db3#FLnEw9SM7yu5Leu2hnGcXrVHM6AxttcAt8anzEEpnG8w
24.06.14
https://paste.dismail.de/?a88383eba6d3fea5#yodApNwsnj84ADi3pDSoGiJ1wmvsS77MYpXFkGSUDk2

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[11:22:47] <prefiks> strange, and indeed xmpp lib seems to be compiled (you can see jid.c being compiled thats included in it)

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[11:23:13] <prefiks> you used `make install` or something different to install it?

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[11:23:43] <stefan> Make install, yes
[11:23:56] <stefan> actually gmake

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[11:24:40] <prefiks> if you have this still around, could you see if running `ejabberdctl live` and then execute `l(jid).` in that and see what it returns?

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[11:25:53] <prefiks> if it return errors could you also run `code:lib_dir("xmpp").` and see if it returns something?

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[11:27:06] <stefan> 24.06.13:
(jid).
{module,jid}
24.06.14:
l(jid).
{error,nofile}

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[11:29:51] <prefiks> i am only interested in that not working state, you don't need to try that on both versions.

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[11:30:07] <stefan> ok 🙂
[11:30:11] <stefan> code:lib_dir("xmpp").
{error,bad_name}

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[11:32:03] <prefiks> could you check also `code:lib_dir("ejabberd").` ?
[11:32:18] <stefan> "/usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib/ejabberd-24.06.14"
[11:32:41] <prefiks> and could you check /usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib and see if there is xmpp-* dir in that?

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[11:33:13] <prefiks> well xmpp_*

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[11:34:30] <stefan> no xmpp_*
[11:35:32] <prefiks> thanks, so seems it was not installed properly

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[11:35:48] <prefiks> do you have /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp dir?

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[11:36:59] <stefan> yes

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[11:41:06] <prefiks> could you try calling `gmake install 2>&1 >install.log` and pastebing resulting install.log

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[11:41:40] <prefiks> if you are using extra flags to install please add them
[11:41:48] <prefiks> like DESTDIR or something

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[11:46:20] <stefan> https://paste.dismail.de/?ac1c837d6d7c5890#8ixJWRvwVuAs77ezh7GwXdPZqKpanBy4D9Av7rzxss1T

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[11:48:15] <prefiks> hm, could you check what files you have in /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/ebin/

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[11:49:52] <stefan> there is no ebin dir
[11:50:21] <prefiks> and /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/
[11:50:47] <stefan> no priv dir

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[11:51:53] <prefiks> that super strange, could you run `find /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd -name jid.beam`

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[11:52:30] <stefan> nothing found

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[11:53:44] <prefiks> in your compile log you had "Linking /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/jid.so", and now there is no dir where it was linked, so osmething must have removed it, let me see if we have something that could do that in makefile
[11:54:04] <prefiks> well make clean would do that, but it shouldn't be called by make install

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[12:03:25] <prefiks> could you do `make` and see if /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/jid.so get created after that?

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[12:05:18] <stefan> yes was created
[12:06:25] <prefiks> and could you do make install now, and see if it will land in /usr/local?

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[12:08:23] <prefiks> /usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib/xmpp_1.8.2/priv/lib/ i think or /usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/

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[12:09:47] <stefan> /usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib/xmpp-1.8.2/priv/lib/jid.so
[12:09:59] <prefiks> ok, i think it will start now

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[12:10:43] <prefiks> no idea how it got to that state, don't see anything in Makefile that could delete those from _build
[12:11:01] <stefan> ejabberd 24.06.14 is started

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[12:11:08] <stefan> ehh 🙂

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[12:23:10] <stefan> the only difference was that i have done the last gmake as root and not as ejabberd.
If I compile as ejabberd the files are missing after install

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[12:26:01] <prefiks> ah

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[12:35:27] <stefan> but thats not the case before 24.06.14

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[12:36:50] <prefiks> this version did fetch xmpp from git, while previous one did use "zip" file, probably permission got messed somewhere

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[12:37:28] <prefiks> i really can't do anything about that in my code

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[12:53:30] <stefan> >probably permission got messed somewhere
I don't think I have messed up permissions, it it just
as: ejabberd
git clone https://github.coclone https://github.com/processone/ejabberd
git checkout fe472a63a0d9d57ed9a17e5473ab7e9cc4accb6c
./autogen.sh
./configure ...
gmake
as root:
gmake install
files are missing
gmake as root, files are not missing

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[12:56:35] <Licaon_Kter> Why gmake and not make?

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[13:03:21] <stefan> >Good, now there are two people with a similar problem...
Alekos@hostedserver.ru: can you reproduce that?

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[13:19:17] <prefiks> ok, it seems to be working ok on my linux box, do sudo make install tries to compile something or do you immediatelly see /usr/bin/install calls?

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[13:29:42] <stefan> compiled as ejabberd then once again gmake:
./rebar3  compile
===> Analyzing applications...
===> Compiling configure_deps
===> Verifying dependencies...
===> Analyzing applications...
===> Compiling ejabberd
again as root
./rebar3  compile
===> Analyzing applications...
===> Compiling configure_deps
===> Verifying dependencies...
===> Upgrading xmpp (from {git,"https://github.com/processone/xmpp",
                {ref,"ce76eda23d8c7654a815f50de6c7cfcaa6c46850"}})
===> Compiling c_src/jid.c
===> Compiling c_src/xmpp_lang.c
===> Compiling c_src/xmpp_uri.c
===> Linking /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/jid.so
===> Linking /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/xmpp_lang.so
===> Linking /home/ejabberd/git/ejabberd/_build/default/lib/xmpp/priv/lib/xmpp_uri.so
===> Generating ASN.1 files.
===> Compiling c_src/ets_cache.c
===> Compiling c_src/eimp.c
===> Compiling c_src/mqtree.c
===> Analyzing applications...
===> Compiling xmpp
===> Compiling jose
===> Compiling stun
===> Compiling cache_tab
===> Compiling eimp
===> Compiling jiffy
...
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[13:37:27] <stefan> >ok, it seems to be working ok on my linux box, do sudo make install tries to compile something or do you immediatelly see /usr/bin/install calls?
gmake install starts with:
gmake copy-files-sub
/usr/bin/install -c -d /usr/local/ejabberd_24.06.14/lib/base64url-1.0.1/ebin

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[14:28:36] <Kris> only with `required` it works

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[20:25:39] <marc> It is intended that the "captcha_cmd" only processes "@VERSION" and not "@VERSION@"?

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[20:25:55] <marc> Well the latter case is processed but the last @ remains
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[20:35:22] <Holger> That's most probably a typo, but according to Git it is that way since it was introduced in 2022. Fascinating that nobody stumbled over that before.

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[20:37:14] <marc> I can submit a bugfix if you like

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[20:37:32] <marc> Btw, is there a way to migrate from mnesia to SQL?

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[20:40:00] <Holger> I can add the '@' myself ;-) Just unsure whether that'll break setups. But I guess we should just do that.

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[20:41:42] <Licaon_Kter> People using broken captcha since 2022?

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[20:42:51] <Kris> no body using useless captcha since 2022 more likely
[20:42:53] <marc> With the second @ my ejabberd does not start but crashes, so I guess nobody uses the second @

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[20:43:16] <marc> Or no captchas at all ;)

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[20:45:20] <Holger> Or a path without @VERSION@ (like me). But I think the our binaries include a captcha script within the /opt/ejabberd-@VERSION@ directory?

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[20:45:28] <Holger> Anyway fixed.

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[20:46:46] <marc> Holger, the @VERSION@ is used in the documentation

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[20:48:17] <Holger> Yup seen that. I'm convinced that change makes sense ;-)

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[22:40:25] <Licaon_Kter> Updated to HEAD, webadmin works, sharedroster crashes (already reported) - I do have one, oauth crashes too (will get a log asap) - I don't have anything here anyway

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