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[04:20:00] <carlo> Wondering what is taking up so much space?  My ejabberd server currently has about 1500 simultaneous users on any given day.  My uploads directory is on a different drive from server root.  I delete accounts inactive for a year.  I believe that I am purging message archives more than 30 days old.  But, I am watching my root drive loose a GB of storage every few days. Ejabberd, postgresql, bubomi, and movim are the only things running besides all the other system processes.
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[04:24:02] <zoidberg> Have you tracked down what exactly is increasing?
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[04:29:58] <carlo> I've tried running some io monitoring but there's so many subprocesses going on, I don't know how to pinpoint.  I'm not finding any single increasingly large file.  I've deleted backlogs from /var/log and that only recovered around 250mb
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[04:35:12] <zoidberg> I believe that are many tools that will help you find files and in order of size. You should try some.
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[04:36:17] <zoidberg> Maybe ncdu? Or something like it
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[07:48:13] <ericb> Hello world 😊
I am trying to configure our server with a single certificate (instead of 5 separate ones for domain,  conference, pubsub, upload and proxy)
I have created a new cert with domain.com as CN, and the four subdomains (conference, pubsub, upload and proxy) as ''Subject Alternative Name'.
The cert's file location in ejabberd.yml is correct.
I am getting "No certificate found matching upload.domain.com' in my log file (same for the 3 other subdomains.
How can I streamline this ?
Thanks for all your help !
[07:48:41] <ericb> Hello world 😊
I am trying to configure our server with a single certificate (instead of 5 separate ones for domain,  conference, pubsub, upload and proxy)
I have created a new cert with domain.com as CN, and the four subdomains (conference, pubsub, upload and proxy) as ''Subject Alternative Name'.
The cert's file location in ejabberd.yml is correct.
I am getting "No certificate found matching upload.domain.com' in my log file (same for the 3 other subdomains).
How can I streamline this ?
Thanks for all your help !
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[07:53:07] <zoidberg> if you have records for "upload.domain.com" and if you are issuing them all together it should be all included in the same cert, and ejabberd would not be complaining.
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[07:53:33] <zoidberg> Are you using acme? Or certbot or what?
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[07:54:10] <zoidberg> Also did you reload_config or reboot the server after deploying the new certs?
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[07:54:45] <ericb> Thanks zoidberg !
That is indeed exactly what I have done.
I get the cert from an official CA.
No acme, no certbot.
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[07:55:21] <ericb> > Also did you reload_config or reboot the server after deploying the new certs?
I did.
It is actually on restart that I get those warnings in my logs
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[07:57:35] <zoidberg> i just am not sure about the "subject alternative name"
[07:57:56] <zoidberg> Here i do normal records, or Alias also work for my sidex
[07:58:01] <zoidberg> Here i do normal records, or Alias also work for my side.
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[07:58:38] <ericb> > Here i do normal records, or Alias also work for my side.
Ok, so just push domain and 4 subdomains into the cert ?
[07:58:54] <ericb> I might give that a try then
[07:59:34] <ericb> I stumbled upon a post somewhere that suggested to work with SAN's
[07:59:52] <ericb> Could be wrong though 🤷🏻‍♂️
[08:00:33] <zoidberg> well, many roads lead to the same place, i am not saying you are wrong. Just what i do(which works fine for me)
[08:01:37] <zoidberg> I would recommend using acme though, or certbot. Just easier IMO.
[08:02:01] <ericb> > well, many roads lead to the same place, i am not saying you are wrong. Just what i do(which works fine for me)
Indeed.
I will try your suggestion (since mine does not work 😅). I will report back !
Thanks again !
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[08:05:57] <zoidberg> With acme for example we would  use this command and all the domains would be included in the same cert acme.sh --issue -d example.com -d www.example.com -d upload.example.com...
[08:06:46] <ericb> Gotcha !
👍🏻
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[10:34:45] <ericb> Right.
So I installed certbot and performed an ACME-request to our CA.
Got a shiny new certificate (domain + 4 subdomains) that I chown'ed to user ejabberd.
Still getting the same error 😒
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[10:35:31] <ericb> Logfile keeps telling me the certfile is "empty" and it cannot find valid certs
[10:36:20] <dwd> Key file also there and you've checked it matches?
[10:37:06] <ericb> By "there" you mean in the /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain folder ?
[10:37:27] <dwd> "there" is anywhere that ejabberd can read it.
[10:37:47] <ericb> But right next to the fullchain, no ?
[10:38:11] <ericb> They are both in the same folder
[10:38:16] <ericb> Same permissions
[10:38:30] <dwd> Also, Subject Alternative Names are alternative in the sense of "alternative types", not secondary, and if any SANs of the correct type (dnsName, usually) exist, a compliant PKIX validator will ignore any CommonName RDN in the Subject DN.
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[10:39:11] <dwd> So reading back, if you have somewhow got your primary domain *only* as a CN RDN in the Subject, it'll be ignored if there are any other domains listed in the SANs.
[10:39:25] <ericb> Aha
[10:39:42] <ericb> That makes sense
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[10:39:53] <dwd> Might want to openssl x509 -in chainfile -text -noout and see what you actually have.
[10:40:21] <ericb> > Might want to openssl x509 -in chainfile -text -noout and see what you actually have.
Did that actually
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[10:41:41] <ericb> All 5 domains are listed there as SAN's with "DNS: domain.com" and "DNS:upload.domain.com" and so on
[10:41:49] <dwd> (Fun but irrelevant background: Subject and Issuer are Distinguished Names, originally intended to be "paths" to objects in the global X.500 directory, which never actually came into existence. Early PKIX - SSL usage of X.509 Strong Auth - decided to hack in domain names into arbitrary "relative paths" of the free-text type "CommonName").
[10:42:23] <ericb> > (Fun but irrelevant background: Subject and Issuer are Distinguished Names, originally intended to be "paths" to objects in the global X.500 directory, which never actually came into existence. Early PKIX - SSL usage of X.509 Strong Auth - decided to hack in domain names into arbitrary "relative paths" of the free-text type "CommonName").
I did not know that. Funny indeed ! 😁
[10:42:47] <dwd> OK, so the cert is probably acceptable. Your ejabberd uses Let's Encrypt as a trust anchor (ie, trusted CA), I assume? And you've checked it can read both chain and private key files?
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[10:44:11] <dwd> And you've configured both in the right place in your config file of course.
[10:44:14] <ericb> I installed certbot, but used our own anchor
[10:45:00] <ericb> I guess ejabber can read the certs since it own them and are set to rwxrwxrwx
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[10:45:06] <ericb> I guess ejabber can read the certs since it owns them and are set to rwxrwxrwx
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[10:45:32] <ericb> > And you've configured both in the right place in your config file of course.
Does one need to define the location of the privacy as well ? 🤔
[10:45:42] <ericb> > And you've configured both in the right place in your config file of course.
Does one need to define the location of the privkey as well ? 🤔
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[10:45:58] <dwd> The trust anchor would be Let's Encrypt's CA cert in this case. I'm not sure, but I *think* ejabberd won't use a certificate that it itself cannot validate for the domain. Having *other* trust anchors doesn't affect this. Normally people use the system trust store (ie, ca-certificates on a Linux box) and that includes the LE certs.
[10:46:13] <dwd> > > And you've configured both in the right place in your config file of course.
> Does one need to define the location of the privkey as well ? 🤔
Yes, you do.
[10:46:21] <zoidberg> privkey and full i think yes
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[10:46:56] <ericb> But I have another server that holds only a single line for certs. Ejabberd.yml has no mention of privacy there
[10:47:05] <ericb> But I have another server that holds only a single line for certs. Ejabberd.yml has no mention of privkey there
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[10:47:55] <dwd> You can - I think - put both chain, EE cert, and private key all in the same file, which might be why.
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[10:48:18] <ericb> > You can - I think - put both chain, EE cert, and private key all in the same file, which might be why.
Exactly. That's what I did
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[10:48:37] <ericb> Both on the other server and the one I'm troubleshooting now
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[10:51:52] <dwd> Huh. That's not how the certbopt generates them, mind - see https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#certfiles for a typical example.
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[10:53:52] <zoidberg> ca_file: /path/to/directory/cacert.pem
certfiles:
- /path/to/directory/domain.pem
- /path/to/directory/private.key.pem
[10:54:09] <ericb> > Huh. That's not how the certbopt generates them, mind - see https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#certfiles for a typical example.
True, I have added the privkey to the fullchain myself
[10:54:31] <ericb> Added that second line for privkey to .yml now. No change
[10:54:43] <zoidberg> Reload_config?
[10:55:01] <ericb> > Reload_config?
Restart even
[10:55:10] <zoidberg> Weird.
[10:55:17] <ericb> > Weird.
I agree
[10:55:21] <ericb> 😊
[10:55:29] <zoidberg> Look harder, its always something we forget somewhere.
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[10:55:46] <ericb> > Look harder, its always something we forget somewhere.
I agree there as well
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[10:57:15] <zoidberg> maybe issue new certs
[10:57:22] <zoidberg> And try again now
[10:57:30] <zoidberg> With all set up right
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[11:01:10] <ericb> > 2024-11-29 11:52:58.719325+01:00 [warning] <0.392.0>@ejabberd_pkix:wildcard/1:362 Path /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain_com/fullchain.pem is empty, please make sure ejabberd has sufficient rights to read it
> 2024-11-29 11:52:58.719468+01:00 [warning] <0.392.0>@ejabberd_pkix:wildcard/1:362 Path /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain_com/privkey.pem is empty, please make sure ejabberd has sufficient rights to read it
[11:01:26] <zoidberg> There you go then
[11:01:30] <ericb> Why on earth would it say this ?
That file is not empty at all
[11:01:40] <zoidberg> check the whole path
[11:01:50] <zoidberg> Maybe ejabberd cant acess it
[11:01:51] <ericb> I can cat it perfectly
[11:02:00] <zoidberg> Try as ejabberd
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[11:02:13] <zoidberg> sudo su ejabberd
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[11:03:44] <ericb> > sudo su ejabberd
We're moving in the right direction here.
I have no permission as ejabberd (even though that user owns them)
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[11:06:50] <MattJ> Run: sudo -u ejabberd namei -l /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain_com/fullchain.pem
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[11:07:30] <ericb> Problem solved ! Nasty permissions-issue it was.
Many thanks zoidberg  and dwd !!
[11:08:10] <ericb> (Should have known: if it's not DNS, it's permissions 😅)
[11:08:13] <zoidberg> And Matt👆👆 dont forget to tell santa that i helped!
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[11:16:40] <Licaon_Kter> ericb: note that it's better to have the permission fix applied after each cert update :)
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[11:19:21] <Holger> Certbot supports `--post-hook /usr/local/sbin/fix-perms.sh` or something.
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[11:23:48] <zoidberg> In my case i run acme as certbot, so no need to worry about change ownership. I do wonder if this is a good/secure approach though?
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[11:24:02] <zoidberg> In my case i run acme as ejabberd, so no need to worry about change ownership. I do wonder if this is a good/secure approach though?
[11:24:31] <Holger> That's fine.
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[11:39:07] <ericb> > And Matt👆👆 dont forget to tell santa that i helped!
Thank you MattJ as well !! 🙏🏻
[11:39:20] <ericb> > ericb: note that it's better to have the permission fix applied after each cert update :)
Noted ✅
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[12:02:41] <Holger> q
[12:02:45] <Holger> Sorry.
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[12:03:23] <MattJ> No :w
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