ejabberd - Friday, January 10, 2025

[09:56:08] <txx> Strange. I created a room on conversations.im, then changed the owner. But I can not change the nickname to the original owner's even after revoking the original owner.

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[09:56:26] <txx> It says:
Error: That nickname is registered by another person

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[09:57:51] <badlop> maybe that feature is taking effect:
"The MUC service allows any Jabber ID to register a nickname, so nobody else can use that nickname in any room in the MUC service. To register a nickname, open the Service Discovery in your XMPP client and register in the MUC service."
[09:59:05] <txx> And, on Gajim, I can still see the creator's nickname on the dialog before joining the room.

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[10:00:39] <txx> >To register a nickname, open the Service Discovery in your XMPP client and register in the MUC service."
The original owner account has never done that.
[10:00:48] <badlop> that may be that feature:
"A small history of the current discussion is sent to users when they enter the room. With this option you can define the number of history messages to keep and send to users joining the room."

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[10:02:10] <txx> >To register a nickname, open the Service Discovery in your XMPP client and register in the MUC service."
The original owner account has never did that.

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[10:03:16] <badlop> umm, i can't see any feature or option in mod_muc that could explain the behaviour you describe... maybe it's a module/patch that conversations.im applied, or some bug

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[10:04:12] <Licaon_Kter> txx: Which client created the muc?
[10:04:23] <txx> > txx: Which client created the muc?
Gajim.

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[10:06:05] <txx> > And, on Gajim, I can still see the creator's nickname on the dialog before joining the room.
Sorry. Not before joining the room, but after joining the room and checking the info.
[10:06:41] <txx> > And, on Gajim, I can still see the creator's nickname on the dialog before joining the room.
Sorry. Not before joining the room, but after joining the room then checking the info.

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[10:08:49] <badlop> maybe the admin didn't really leave the room?

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[10:11:38] <txx> I tried to use the original owner account to register the nickname for MUC of that server, it still says it is registered, but I can still change to that nickname in the room.

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[10:14:14] <txx> > maybe the admin didn't really leave the room?
Not that.

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[10:17:21] <badlop> I can think four possibilities of where is the unexpected behaviour (that nobody else has ever experienced until now):
A) something in ejabberd source code
B) something in conversations.im configuration or installation (maybe a feature to prevent random people hijacking the owner nickname when the owner is disconnected)
C) something in one of your clients
D) something in how you use the clients

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[10:47:39] <txx> Tested on a server of ejabberd 24.12.0, now I am sure it is a glitch of conversations.im, nevermind.

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[10:51:13] <Holger> We're running 24.12.something as well and didn't consciously modify registration behavior.

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[10:59:14] <txx> Ah, weird. I tried again with a new account it is normal this time... Nevermind.

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[11:21:57] <txx> https://share.conversations.im/txx/L2vRThAWwEbR8mcL/2025-01-10_19-14-11.mp4
[11:22:01] <txx> Damn it! I forgot that Gajim has a bug that confusing addresses! Now my mind is messed up.

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[11:22:30] <txx> I feel tired, nevermind.

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[11:51:04] <txx> Emmm... Does Ejabberd reserve nicknames for joiners? (But Gajim can not see the nicknames in the member list in the meanwhile?)
[11:51:40] <Holger> ejabberd doesn't auto-reserver any nicknames at all.
[11:51:46] <Holger> ejabberd doesn't auto-reserve any nicknames at all.

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[11:52:00] <Holger> Maybe your client does things, of course …
[11:53:26] <txx> > Maybe your client does things, of course …
I guess so. I changed the nickname on Monocles then another account can reuse it! I guess Gajim can not change the reserved nickname.
[11:54:17] <txx> > Maybe your client does things, of course …
I guess so. I changed the nickname on Monocles then another account can reuse it! I guess monocles make nickname reserved but Gajim can not change the reserved nickname.

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[11:56:38] <txx> I have no questions anymore. (Finally relaxed.)

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[13:05:17] <Licaon_Kter> txx: Monocles registers nicks iirc

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[13:11:49] <txx> Yes. And the reason was just that.

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[18:44:06] <camille-dupont> Hey, just saw about the new process-one website! that's great but, is parsing "/author/*/" pages supposed to be the best way to find previous articles on the blog? Homepage is limited to 5 articles without pagination, and there aren't visible tags... so that's quite confusing :/

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[18:49:19] <badlop> the small "latest posts" link in https://www.process-one.net/blog/ brings to a list of posts, which has 57 pages

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[18:58:30] <camille-dupont> Ohh, indeed! thought it wasn't a link but just "here are the latest posts: " ... thanks for pointing it :)

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[19:11:16] <zeank> Took me a while too, potential room for improvement

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