ejabberd - Monday, March 3, 2025

[08:01:47] <zoidberg> Congratulations.👍
[08:01:49] <Pepe> I feel confident, so I showed my parents, sister and girlfriend to download a client on their phones and use it. Now we have our own server, so we can communicate between us without a big tech message app.

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[08:03:28] <Pepe> Thanks <3

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[09:24:16] <marc0s> hi, we have a deployment where we expect to handle around 900 active MUCs, all under a single domain. Room occupation is not expected to be very high, around 20 users per room or so. Clients will be mostly (as in >95%) mobile and our storage backend is PostgreSQL. Do you have any recommendation or obvious tweaking we should be doing for handling that load? Thank you very much in advance :)

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[09:41:50] <Licaon_Kter> Get the latest Raspberry Pi :)

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[09:56:26] <hexZoN3> Licaon_Kter mentioning how many rpi's would help him even more

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[09:56:53] <hexZoN3> Licaon_Kter mentioning how many rpi's would help him even better

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[10:08:28] <Holger> marc0s: I'd think that should be fine.

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[10:11:20] <Licaon_Kter> hexZoN3: One....

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[10:12:32] <hexZoN3> > hexZoN3: One....
😂
[10:14:05] <Licaon_Kter> Wait, no, hear me out :)
RPi3 w/ 1Gb RAM would handle 1500 users just fine, w/ pgsql

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[10:17:26] <hexZoN3> > Wait, no, hear me out :)
>
> RPi3 w/ 1Gb RAM would handle 1500 users just fine, w/ pgsql
he's talking about around 18000 userd, so maybe 4 or 3 4Gb ram rpi's?

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[10:17:46] <hexZoN3> > Wait, no, hear me out :)
>
> RPi3 w/ 1Gb RAM would handle 1500 users just fine, w/ pgsql
he's talking about around 18000 userd, so maybe 4 or 3 4Gb ram RPIs?
[10:17:54] <hexZoN3> > Wait, no, hear me out :)
>
> RPi3 w/ 1Gb RAM would handle 1500 users just fine, w/ pgsql
he's talking about around 18000 users, so maybe 4 or 3 4Gb ram RPIs?
[10:18:23] <marc0s> well, those 20 users per MUC are not unique, each user will be joining probably 2 or 3 MUCs

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[10:18:50] <hexZoN3> > well, those 20 users per MUC are not unique, each user will be joining probably 2 or 3 MUCs
That's correct too
[10:19:09] <hexZoN3> Then try with one RPI
[10:19:42] <hexZoN3> Or maybe 2

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[10:21:24] <marc0s> forgot to mention that we already have the hardware (ejabberd is part of a bigger system) and it's server hardware, not rpis. I'm most interested in the configuration aspect of ejabberd (ie, pgsql pool size, params such as `preload_rooms` or the like)

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[10:26:02] <Licaon_Kter> hexZoN3: RPi5 has 8Gb RAM and better cores
Anyway marc0s my point was that if even RPi's have such good performance, imho you'll fine with your hardware :)

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[10:27:52] <hexZoN3> > hexZoN3: RPi5 has 8Gb RAM and better cores
>
> Anyway marc0s my point was that if even RPi's have such good performance, imho you'll fine with your hardware :)
👍

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[11:14:27] <Kris> marc0s: other than conversations.im there are probably only commercial deploymentd with that amout of load on a single ejabberd node.
[11:14:38] <Kris> marc0s: other than conversations.im there are probably only commercial deployments with that amout of load on a single ejabberd node.

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[15:07:37] <badmuff> > I feel confident, so I showed my parents, sister and girlfriend to download a client on their phones and use it. Now we have our own server, so we can communicate between us without a big tech message app.
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[15:49:42] <qsx> hi! so i just set up ejabberd – this has really gotten easier since i last tried it ages ago, so props for that

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[15:50:08] <Licaon_Kter> qsx: Was easy since 2018, wdym?

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[15:51:22] <qsx> i also configured mod_matrix_gw, and it sorta kinda works. however, i couldn’t find a definite answer to this question: is there _any_ way to have both XMPP and matrix users in a MUC/room?

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[15:51:43] <qsx> Licaon_Kter: uhhhh this might have been before 2018

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[19:34:03] <ermete> > I feel confident, so I showed my parents, sister and girlfriend to download a client on their phones and use it. Now we have our own server, so we can communicate between us without a big tech message app.
👍

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[19:34:08] <ermete> > I feel confident, so I showed my parents, sister and girlfriend to download a client on their phones and use it. Now we have our own server, so we can communicate between us without a big tech message app.
🤓

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[22:14:23] <Pepe> I'm setting up the conversejs client using mod_conversejs and something weird is happening

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[22:17:27] <Pepe> When I reload the page the sesion is closed and I have to enter the user again and inside, there is no option for using OMEMO, been looking and proably somthing related to the smacks? I don't know, but also in the browser logs It tries to load js scripts and the url is bad formated
[22:17:43] <Pepe> for example
[22:17:59] <Pepe> >Loading failed for the <script> with source “https://example.com:5443/conversejslocales/es-LC_MESSAGES-converse-po.js”.

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[22:18:27] <Pepe> there should be a / between conversejs and locales

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[22:20:58] <Pepe> Yesterday I found more errors like that and reading the docs I found that in mod_conversejs: conversejs_options: there is an assets_path that you have to configure to apear that final backslash, but is weird that you have to put it manually

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[22:23:31] <Pepe> >modules:
>...
>  mod_conversejs:
>    conversejs_options:
>      assets_path: "https:/example.com:5443/conversejs/"
[22:23:53] <Pepe> is this how it supposed to work?
[22:24:35] <Pepe> and is this a conversejs problem or a ejabberd's module problem?

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[22:27:45] <Licaon_Kter> You need the signal .js files for omemo, see Converse's own docs

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[22:28:48] <Licaon_Kter> Reloads are an issue in general for web stuff, iirc IndexDB usage was helping, again, see Converse docs.

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[22:38:28] <Pepe> Okay, thanks, I found it. Is there an eassy way of writing something in the ejabberd.yml or do I have to get inside the docker where my ejabberd image is? :-(

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[22:42:33] <Pepe> Is there anywhere an example of how this is configured?

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