ejabberd - Thursday, March 27, 2025

[08:17:56] <prefiks> raver: do you have more error before this one? Those changes do need updates to database schema, maybe that part is missing? But still we should fail earlier in that case i think, i will have a look

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[08:56:22] <raver> prefiks: not sure, this error occurred in a loop and I only copied the last entry
[08:56:43] <raver> I could retry when I'm back on keyboard
[08:57:07] <raver> Regarding dB schema updates, I thought they are now applied automatically?

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[08:57:46] <prefiks> yes, they should if you enabled option for that

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[08:58:08] <prefiks> do you know what pg version you have? i will try to test that

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[08:59:38] <badlop> mnesia always updates automatically :) and SQL updates if you enable (it's enabled by default in example configuration file)
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#update_sql_schema
[08:59:48] <raver> > yes, they should if you enabled option for that
I have
default_db: sql
update_sql_schema: true

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[09:01:37] <raver> Let me check my dB version should be 17.x

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[09:01:49] <prefiks> thank you

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[09:06:08] <raver> > Let me check my dB version should be 17.x
Oh no it's 15.10
[09:06:16] <raver> I should upgrade😁

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[09:06:42] <prefiks> thanks, let me test with that then

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[09:08:04] <prefiks> this schema upgrade does update primary key (this is first one that does that), so maybe i need to tweak how it work

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[09:49:12] <Adrien> https://github.com/keroserene/rickrollrc
[09:49:21] <Adrien> wrong room err

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[10:01:23] <prefiks> raver: schema update seems to be working in that version, what i think is happening here, it that you are using last published xmpp version in hex, instead of one from fetched from git (at least i think so based on line numbers from you error, they seems to match that), and there is change needed in xmpp for my changes in ejabberd

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[10:03:21] <prefiks> i will publish new version of xmpp today, so hopefuly your build will be able to use version with required fixes

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[10:10:52] <raver> prefiks: no hurry, reverting to 24.12.81 worked, let me know when I should test again😊

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[10:13:51] <Licaon_Kter> Adrien:
> wrong room err
But is it though?

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[10:14:14] <Licaon_Kter> Adrien:
> wrong room err
But is it though? :)
[10:14:32] <prefiks> also you can just use mpv -vo kitty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4WlUXrJgy4

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[13:30:42] <marc0s> hi, I'm looking at some processes in an ejabberd node, that seem to correspond to c2s sessions (`mod: :ejabberd_c2s` in its state), that are consuming ~~4MiB each (`{#PID<0.3323.0>, {:current_function, {:p1_server, :collect_messages, 3}}, {:memory, 4119600}` from its process info). Inspecting their state, I see a `mgmt_queue` key with a really huge amount of stanzas (`:messages`, `:presence`, ...)
What is that `mgmt_queue` used for? What would be the reason for it to accumulate such an amount of stanzas? How can I further debug it?
Thanks in advance :)
[13:31:10] <raver> prefiks after reverting, i see this in the logs: 2025-03-27 14:28:09.505941+01:00 [error] <0.657.0>@ejabberd_sql_schema:update_schema/3:864 The current SQL schema for module ejabberd_auth_sql is 2, but the latest known schema in the module is 1
..will that cause trouble if i later try the fixed version from github?
[13:31:29] <prefiks> no, that just mean schema was updated
[13:32:13] <raver> by the way, that motivated me to upgrade the postgresql version to 17.2 :D
[13:32:19] <prefiks> marc0s: those are probably disconnected session waiting to be resumed

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[13:32:55] <prefiks> when there is no connections, incoming messages are queued, to be eventually delivered when client reconnects

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[13:33:55] <prefiks> there is limit on how much stanzas is stored, before it starts dropping, on sessions it terminated (don't remember which one)
[13:34:18] <marc0s> prefiks, ok. What if they don't resume in the XEP-0198 sense, but start a new one? Would that sessions be kept there forever?
[13:34:48] <marc0s> prefiks, ok. What if they don't resume in the XEP-0198 sense, but start a new one? Would that sessions (and their processes) be kept there forever?
[13:34:54] <prefiks> there is also time limit for how long they are kept alive
[13:35:13] <prefiks> they will end at some point
[13:35:28] <marc0s> > there is also time limit for how long they are kept alive
If they have push notifications... that time might be forever, maybe?

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[13:36:34] <marc0s> does those queued messages have any timestamp?
[13:36:55] <prefiks> there is still limit for that i think, but not 100 sure how push works modify stream management that does keep sessions for resumption

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[13:37:49] <prefiks> they probably have stanzaid, that can be converted to timestamp

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[13:38:27] <marc0s> ok; thanks for the hints! I'll keep digging

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[13:48:36] <marc0s> prefiks, is mod_offline the responsible for those queued up messages or is it another module?
[13:48:54] <prefiks> mod_stream_mgmt

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[13:49:04] <prefiks> offline stores messages only in db

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[13:50:05] <marc0s> ok

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[17:14:19] <raver> prefiks: latest installer from GitHub seems to work✌️

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[17:14:57] <prefiks> cool, i released new version of xmpp lib, that probably did it

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