ejabberd - Monday, April 14, 2025

[05:43:28] <EmleyMoor> I have recently installed aTalk on a partner's phone and can see it supports video and audio calling, as does Conversations. However, I don't think I am set up in ejabberd to allow for this, and the calls do not succeed. (They ring but fail to connect when answered.) What do I need to set?

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[05:45:46] <zoidberg> I dont think its a ejabberd issue.
[05:45:58] <zoidberg> Have you set the TURN side?
[05:46:20] <zoidberg> (can you call from conversations to conversations?
[05:46:41] <EmleyMoor> I have no one to test that with

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[05:47:13] <zoidberg> i think that atalk to conversations calls are not working

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[05:47:21] <zoidberg> I did try to test that in the past
[05:47:34] <zoidberg> But didnt succeed

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[05:47:39] <zoidberg> Atalk to atalk Ok

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[05:47:48] <EmleyMoor> That's a useful clarification

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[05:48:15] <EmleyMoor> aTalk will be going on at least one other device soon so that can be tried then
[05:48:20] <zoidberg> Maybe theit dev can tell you more accurate info
[05:48:40] <zoidberg> Atalk have a lot of configs
[05:49:03] <zoidberg> Maybe something may be configured to make it work.

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[05:50:47] <zoidberg> the important parts for the TURN side if you are using the built in eturnal, is to set the relay ip

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[05:51:35] <zoidberg> otherwise, STUN i think might work right out of the box(assuming the port is open).
[05:52:40] <EmleyMoor> I'm not sure where any of these settings are yet, in any of my clients
[05:52:47] <zoidberg> Not client

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[05:52:53] <zoidberg> On your ejabberd i mean
[05:52:59] <EmleyMoor> Or even there
[05:53:04] <zoidberg> Ejabberd packs a built in eturnal.

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[05:53:24] <Licaon_Kter> Atalk dev does not fix call compat with Conversations/Dino/etc afaik
[05:53:41] <EmleyMoor> Right - so what's this relay IP?
[05:54:16] <zoidberg> relay ip is a config to point to your turn server(the external IP must be used)

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[05:54:37] <zoidberg> Let me see if i can find it in the docs here
[05:54:51] <zoidberg> Besides that

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[05:55:01] <zoidberg> you also need to open the ports
[05:55:07] <zoidberg> Including the range
[05:55:12] <zoidberg> All /UDP
[05:55:29] <EmleyMoor> I will check that point, of course...

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[06:04:42] <zoidberg> i only found this one: https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/
quite old article, not sure this is the most up to date docs. looks i would just ignore the DNS record for it(not necessary) as long as you point it to the connect IP and port.
[06:04:51] <zoidberg> there is also this: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/?h=mod_stun#mod_stun_disco

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[06:05:35] <zoidberg> the last link is just for sending the clients the info for the TURN server(which is important) but i didnt find the config for the relay_ip yet.

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[06:09:26] <zoidberg> i might not be the greatest Sherpa on guiding you to set up the built in eturnal on ejabberd. on my case i run eturnal as a separated entity.

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[06:12:33] <zoidberg> the relay_ip must be the turn IP here(i think)also included in the first article.
```listen:
  ...
  -
    port: 3478
    transport: udp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    turn_min_port: 49152
    turn_max_port: 65535
```
    ## The server's public IPv4 address:
    turn_ip: 0.0.0.0
  -
    port: 5349
    transport: tcp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    tls: true
    turn_min_port: 49152
    turn_max_port: 65535
    ip: 0.0.0.0
    turn_ip: 0.0.0.0

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[06:16:09] <zoidberg> EmleyMoor: BTW, you know you can get conversations for free on F-droid too right? Just wondering why you choose atalk for your partner(nothing against) just conversations is more stable(specially for calls). At least when i last tried.

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[06:20:04] <EmleyMoor> zoidberg: I was unaware Conversations was free on F-droid. Will investigate that.

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[06:23:56] <Licaon_Kter> EmleyMoor: wat? Aren't you in the Conversations channel or smth?

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[06:29:09] <EmleyMoor> I'm there, but it being free on F-droid escaped my notice

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[06:30:01] <EmleyMoor> I will put it on the other three devices later this month

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[06:43:36] <Licaon_Kter> That's mentioned once a day :)

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[09:11:36] <Kris> https://joinjabber.org/docs/apps/android/
[09:12:16] <Kris> EmleyMoor: you can also try one of the forks, Cheogram or Monocles, which have added a lot of nice features.

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[14:14:12] <moparisthebest> Is https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/security still the preferred way to report these things?

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[14:22:12] <Adrien> Hi @moparisthebest, yes it's the preferred way.
I saw your contrib 10h ago, we'll try to give you an answer soon, thank you a lot. :)

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[14:26:48] <Licaon_Kter> Another 'rewrite ejabberd in rust' request?

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[14:27:27] <savagepeanut> > Another 'rewrite ejabberd in rust' request?
😂

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[14:38:48] <moparisthebest> damnit you caught me Licaon_Kter

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[14:40:39] <savagepeanut> ~~memory safety~~ type safety!

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