ejabberd - Monday, April 28, 2025

[08:35:05] <Manis> I'm trying to enable the Matrix gateway on my ejabberd server, but I'm confused about the matrix_id_as_jid option. Docs say true => automatic routing to Matrix gateway. https://www.process-one.net/blog/matrix-gateway-setup-with-ejabberd/ says false => automatic routing to Matrix gateway.

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[08:37:27] <Manis> Menel, is it ejabberd 25.04 only or does it happen with all ejabberd versions with this module enabled?

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[08:38:05] <Menel> No idea, I would need servers to test with.

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[08:45:37] <Manis> Menel, I'm running 24.12. I can enable mod_s2s_bidi if it would help you.

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[08:48:33] <Menel> Hm. No thank you. That's a version that still had the known s2s bug. So there it is known not to work with other server implementations.
IT should work since 25.03 when the wrong namespace was fixed
[08:49:07] <Manis> s2s bug?
[08:49:12] <Menel> Bidi bug

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[08:49:21] <Menel> Ejabberd used a wrong namespace.
[08:49:23] <Manis> Ah, another bidi only bug.

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[09:03:53] <prefiks> Menel: could you please try to start s2s connection to prefiks.org

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[09:05:58] <Menel> that worked

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[09:07:34] <prefiks> looking at traffic don't see anything strange there
[09:07:53] <Menel> now my statictic is: 2x ejabberd 24.04 working, 2x not working
[09:08:23] <Menel> prefiks, yes. It worked normally with that server... so I wonder what the difference in config might be...

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[09:12:42] <Menel> the other servers never send the second line here:

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[09:12:56] <Menel> ```
Apr 28 11:05:52 s2sout56405495a020 debug connection snikket.de->prefiks.org is now authenticated for prefiks.org
Apr 28 11:05:52 s2sout56405495a020 debug Received[s2sout]: <features xmlns='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams' xml:lang='en'>
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[09:13:27] <Menel> instead I got: Apr 27 07:12:17 conn95Vk5FeyAxa8 debug Read error, closing (unexpected eof while reading)

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[09:19:45] <prefiks> after you receive success for bidi request mod_bidi work ends (after it register this connection as correct route in the other direction), and i am not sure what could cause closing that connection at this point

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[09:20:12] <prefiks> maybe something with spam protection? will have a look at some of those modules

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[09:28:02] <Menel> I still try to get debug logs from an involved server. I only suspect bidi, since the connection worked when bidi was disabled.. but I want to test that again. I'll report when I have more data.

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[09:40:41] <Kris> Manis: the docs seem to have been corrected regarding that matrix gw setting.
[09:41:22] <Kris> But you really should update to 25.04 as there were many changes in the matrix gw in 25.03

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[09:43:24] <Manis> Kris, seems so. I had a quick glance at the code, too, and it seems that true -> implicit, false -> explicit.
[09:43:39] <Manis> I cannot update to 25.x yet because I use Debian packages which only very recently got updated to 24.12.

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[09:44:11] <Kris> Then you should probably wait for that before trying the matrix gw

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[09:46:04] <Kris> In 24.10 it basically unusable, and even now I have not heard of anyone outside of process-one using it really successfully. I tried to set it up here but seem to have run into a bug making it impossible to use.
[09:46:35] <Manis> Hmm, this doesn't sound very encouraging.

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[09:46:54] <Manis> I was really hoping to make another step into getting rid of this Element clusterfuck.

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[09:47:30] <Kris> There is an official .deb repo you can add to your sources to upgrade outside of the debian internal packages.
[09:47:34] <Manis> Is it because of E2EE incompatibilities or just basic interop issues?

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[09:47:59] <Kris> But the setup is somewhat different so it isn't a dropin replacement.

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[09:48:35] <Kris> > Is it because of E2EE incompatibilities or just basic interop issues?
e2ee isn't supported at all by the current gw.
[09:48:38] <Manis> And it seems to only support amd64 and arm64.
[09:49:22] <Kris> My problem is that is seems to refuse to work if you have more than one vhost configured as something with the internal routing goes wrong.
[09:49:42] <Manis> Oh OK.

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[09:49:54] <Manis> I only have one vhost, but still doesn't sound that great.

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[09:50:37] <Holger> Menel: You could also try messaging.one.

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[09:58:27] <Menel> heh. also not affected Holger. hm. But the others are still.
I just used a new install on debian stable. literally only created a certificatem dns record, entered a Virtualhost and the bisi module.
so it isn't an issue with the specific prosody version I use mainly.

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[09:59:33] <Holger> Maybe we could ask one of the affected servers for their config.

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[09:59:56] <Kris> Maybe something going wrong with direct TLS s2s connections?
[10:00:49] <Kris> I am not sure if I have configured that fully correctly on my server (which is one of the effected ones according to Menel).

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[10:00:56] <Menel> no. the server I used just now, the fresh install doesn't use it. since it is disabled by default

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[10:01:29] <Menel> and magicbroccoli.de disabled it for me to test. I'll habe to ask them to do debug logging.. if they are up to it.
[10:01:59] <Menel> and magicbroccoli.de disabled it for me to test. I'll have to ask them to do debug logging.. if they are up to it.

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[18:52:07] <raver> and rimkus.it if you like, running:
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rimkus.it läuft mit ejabberd Version 25.4.1 auf einem unbekannten System
```

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[19:35:07] <Licaon_Kter> ```
Du bist sauer kraut
```

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[20:11:37] <Leorius> Ah stimmt... chat.familie-lange.onl läuft mit ejabberd 25.04 auf ubuntuserver 22.04.5 LTS arm64 auf Raspi 4b...

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[20:12:04] <Licaon_Kter> Leorius: Bros, easy on the bier und pretzels, get back to Engrish

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[20:13:03] <Menel> They all work, even magicbroccoli.de works now after their server restarted.
Only one server that didn't restart yet doesn't work.
Makes it harder to debug... So I guess it doesn't happen all the time, after it happens, it sticks until the module (bidi) is reloaded or the server restarted....
The best kind of bugs...

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[20:15:03] <Menel> Unfortunately we don't got debug logs of the non working state. Only after it was reloaded (or restarted) and then it was too late, and I don't get logs from the last server I know what won't connect. So I'll wait until someone stumbles on it again.
It will stop any connection from a wide range of prosody versions if they both loaded bidi.

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