ejabberd - Monday, May 12, 2025

[14:10:24] <badlop> yes, that's intended and implemented since ages ago
[14:11:11] <badlop> the XEP describes how to get a raw long list of commands in Retrieving the Command List
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0050.html#retrieve

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[14:11:57] <badlop> additionally, for clients that support it, ejabberd uses the service discovery to get an organized list of adhoc commands:
Administrate Users, Announce, Nodes, Commands API, and ful raw list of Commands

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[14:14:54] <Daniel> but that section describes for when requesting the node=http://jabber.org/protocol/commands
[14:15:20] <Daniel> my point was that the commands are also returned when retrieving the items w/o a node

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[14:16:20] <Daniel> aka `<query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#items'/>`

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[14:17:12] <Daniel> or to describe the "problem" more specifically Conversations requests the items in order to find http upload and muc and then gets a bunch of adhoc commands in return (that I’m filtering out)

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[14:19:20] <badlop> That's strange. Sending this query, i just get the muc, pubsub... services and the 9 commands/admin categories, not the commands themselves:
<iq id='16:440081' type='get' to='localhost'>
<query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#items'/>
</iq>

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[14:20:25] <Daniel> oh ok. fair enough. that’s what i mean then i guess
[14:20:51] <Daniel> but that means that including the categories is intentional then?

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[14:22:26] <badlop> btw, the full list of adhoc commands is around 215

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[14:24:50] <badlop> furthermore, those categories in service disco are only provided to admin accounts; regular users don't get them, right?
[14:24:54] <Daniel> oh ok. yes I was seeing only a handful. i don’t have debugging right now. but if you say there are 9 categories than this probably tracks

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[14:25:28] <Daniel> yes i think i only saw that with my admin account

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[14:27:39] <prefiks> and i would say having those categories listed here is expected, otherwise you will not be really able to discovery them easily (you will need to ask for each potential category explicitly)

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[14:33:45] <Daniel> would you not get them by requesting <query xmlns="…disco#items" node="http://jabber.org/protocol/commands"/>

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[14:36:06] <prefiks> in this singular case that would work, but there may be also different nodes, so you would need to check each of them individually

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[14:40:50] <badlop> from what I see, using the xep method returns all commands; and the categories in service discovery is a human-accessibility addition

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[14:41:23] <badlop> btw, mod_configure.erl and that feature was implemented in early 2003, contemporarily to xep-30 and xep-50

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[14:42:08] <badlop> but maybe at the time of xep-50 it was expected that only a handful of commands whould be implemented

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[14:42:24] <badlop> for instance, xep-133 describes 31 commands

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[14:42:34] <Daniel> > from what I see, using the xep method returns all commands
by "the xep method" you mean: <query xmlns="…disco#items" node="http://jabber.org/protocol/commands"/>?

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[14:43:33] <badlop> yes, the method that we talked before, and showed a stanza example and the xep link

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[15:01:10] <Daniel> OK. Tbh I still don't fully understand why the 'categories' are listed in a normal disco#items

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[15:01:50] <Daniel> I don't even understand what categories are? Can I somehow request only the commands in a specific category?

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[15:13:03] <prefiks> disco items is here to see what services endpoint have, so you get listed subdomains, and nodes that are recognized by given jid

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[15:20:34] <badlop> the result contains:
services:
    <item jid='conference.localhost'/>
    <item jid='proxy.localhost'/>
    <item jid='pubsub.localhost'/>
    <item jid='upload.localhost'/>
adhoc commands:
    <item node='api-commands' -- 185 API Commands
    <item node='announce' -- commands from mod_announce, to manage MOTD
    <item node='config' -- seems unused
    <item node='user' -- commands from xep-133
    <item node='running nodes' -- manage internal database
    <item node='stopped nodes'
list of sessions:
    <item node='online users'
    <item node='all users'
    <item node='outgoing s2s'

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[21:09:26] <Aleks> Hi. I try to connect ejabberd to an oauth server and can't find in which format the "private key" file `jwt_key` file ( https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/authentication/#jwt-authentication ) should be?
in the doc of Keycloak can you see that there are several possibilities for the output format https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/server_admin/#_client-credentials.
Have anybody a working setup with JWT authentication?

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