ejabberd - Wednesday, May 14, 2025

[06:10:43] <marc0s> Hi, I've been doing some tests with mucsub and I think I've found a corner case where, on members-only MUCs, with members subscribed via mucsub, whenever one of the members has its membership revoked, the muc subscription remains. I suppose that ideally that subscription should be dropped along with the membership, but I'd rather ask because mayb I'm missing something. Any reason for it to be kept after the losing of membership?

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[06:11:34] <marc0s> Hi, I've been doing some tests with mucsub and I think I've found a corner case where, on members-only MUCs, with members subscribed via mucsub, whenever one of the members has its membership revoked, the muc subscription remains. I suppose that ideally that subscription should be dropped along with the membership, but I'd rather ask because maybe I'm missing something. Any reason for it to be kept after the losing of membership?

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[15:24:27] <marc0s> anyone using `mod_prometheus` around? Let me tell you in advance that I have no previous experience with prometheus, so I may be asking something stupid 🙏 I added a `connected_users` gauge like this:
```
      - hook: connected_users
        type: gauge
        help: "Connected users"
        labels:
          - host
        command: connected_users
        result_type: list
```
I'd like to have the "histogram" variant, so I can plot how it evolved during time, so I tried the following:
```
      - hook: connected_users
        type: histogram
        help: "Connected users through time"
        labels:
          - host
        command: connected_users
        result_type: list
        buckets:
          - 10
          - 100
          - 750
          - 1000
          - 1500
```
but I only got nothing added to my metrics, just the `TYPE` and `HELP` lines. Anyone can tell me what am I doing wrong? Thanks!

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[15:24:52] <marc0s> anyone using `mod_prometheus` around? Let me tell you in advance that I have no previous experience with prometheus, so I may be asking something stupid 🙏 I added a `connected_users` gauge like this:
```
      - hook: connected_users
        type: gauge
        help: "Connected users"
        labels:
          - host
        command: connected_users
        result_type: list
```
I'd like to have the "histogram" variant, so I can plot how it evolved during time, so I tried the following:
```
      - hook: connected_users
        type: histogram
        help: "Connected users through time"
        labels:
          - host
        command: connected_users
        result_type: list
        buckets:
          - 10
          - 100
          - 750
          - 1000
          - 1500
```
but I only got nothing added to my metrics, just the `TYPE` and `HELP` lines. Anyone can tell me what am I doing wrong? Thanks!

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[16:22:17] <edhelas> How can I configure ejabberd to set myself as an admin of a Pubsub service ?
[16:22:33] <edhelas> I'd like to be able to remove any node using my admin account.

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[16:23:55] <edhelas> Currently checking the acl documentation

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[16:28:16] <edhelas> Holger :3 ?

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[16:31:20] <Holger> edhelas: From a quick look this currently isn't supported :-/

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[16:33:03] <edhelas> Ah :/
[16:33:05] <Holger> edhelas: The idea would be that your JID would have unrestricted access, without explicitly being added to the list of owners, right?
[16:33:12] <edhelas> No workaround ?

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[16:34:18] <edhelas> > edhelas: The idea would be that your JID would have unrestricted access, without explicitly being added to the list of owners, right?
Yes

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[16:35:02] <edhelas> ```
acl:
  admin:
    user:
      - "edhelas@movim.eu"
```

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[16:35:30] <edhelas> Basically I have that, I was expecting to be able to manage the Pubsub nodes hosted on the whole service as well

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[16:38:23] <edhelas> Also get the node affiliations, remove a node item etc... it will be for moderation purpose

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[16:41:48] <edhelas> Holger do you think its a nice thing to add ?

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[16:42:42] <Holger> I see the use case!

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[16:44:08] <Holger> That `acl` is really just a list that must be referenced somewhere to have an effect. The `admin` name is arbitrary and has no special meaning.

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[16:44:35] <edhelas> Ah ok, my bad :p
[16:44:37] <Holger> Just to clarify that ejabberd doesn't actually have the concept of a global 'admin'.

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[16:45:02] <edhelas> Well maybe having a per host admin would be better actually
[16:45:04] <Holger> Modules might give certain privileges to JIDs matching access rules, that's all.

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[16:46:01] <edhelas> Like in mod_pubsub

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[16:47:21] <edhelas> ```
mod_pubsub
  hosts:
    - "news.@HOST@"
      admins:
         - "john@server.com"
         - "paul@server.org"
```
[16:47:21] <edhelas> Something like that

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[16:48:01] <edhelas> And maybe a list directly under mod_pubsub yes
[16:48:20] <edhelas> I'm fine copy-pasting things a few times in the config :p

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[16:50:49] <Holger> Nah, that would have to reuse the existing access rule/ACL infra that's used everywhere in ejabberd for authorization. Otherwise we'll end up directly in hell.

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[16:51:42] <Holger> Dunno how to make that domain-specific but still.

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[16:51:48] <edhelas> Okay :D
[16:52:41] <Holger> I mean the admin can always configure mod_pubsub seperately for each domain.

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[16:54:35] <Holger> I'm aware multiple PubSub 'hosts' are a different beast. But defining seperate configs for them really goes against the current design.

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[17:04:57] <edhelas> Holger You're the pro there, I'm following your wisdom Holger-sensei 🧙‍♂️

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[17:09:35] <edhelas> Holger for now is there an another way to remove manually a Pubsub node ? Should I directly do a DELETE in the SQL DB :D ?

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[17:14:33] <Holger> edhelas, I'm sorry I'm of no help today, gotta get lots of things done for another several hours 😕

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[17:15:18] <Holger> mod_pubsub has a `delete_node(Host, Node, From)` call that could be called from a debug shell, or from a trivial script.

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[17:15:53] <Holger> `From` would have to be the JID of the node owner, so a script would have to figure that our first.
[17:16:00] <edhelas> No problem :) I'm not in a hurry, just going back to some Movim features and this one popped out

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[17:16:24] <Holger> Probably still easier than messing with SQL given that multiple tables are involved.

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[17:18:24] <edhelas> Well, there's foreign key no :p ?
[17:18:47] <edhelas> If I remove the node, all the related things goes away ?
[17:18:47] <Holger> Wasn't sure about the details from the top of my head.
[17:18:54] <Holger> Maybe 🙂

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