ejabberd - Friday, May 23, 2025

[01:08:23] <erebion> > Ok. Is it easy to migrate from prosody to ejabbered later if I need/want to?
Yes. Did that a couple days ago, not complicated. Configure ejabberd, let it import data for vhosts, done.

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[01:30:10] <vitalis> Thanks, good to know 👍

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[03:02:55] <Slava Bendersky> Today at 11:25:
> Slava Bendersky: I think mod_scram_upgrade is broken and should be commented out.
ok. commented out. thanks

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[09:46:28] <raucao> hi. quick question about the volatile storage back-ends: is it generally recommended to use redis or sql when running ejabberd in a cluster? i thought we had everything switched to sql, but we didn't set `default_ram_db` explicitly, so i guess not

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[09:48:04] <Holger> raucao: I'd use Mnesia if you have no strong reason (custom integrationd/introspection or whatever) to prefer an alternative.

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[09:48:17] <Holger> raucao: I'd use Mnesia if you have no strong reason (custom integrations/introspection or whatever) to prefer an alternative.
[09:48:46] <Holger> I'd expect using SQL as RAM DB to be slow.

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[09:49:25] <prefiks> i would rather not use sql for that, it indeed can cause quite a load on db server
[09:49:25] <raucao> we run redis already, so would probably use that
[09:50:05] <Holger> raucao: Would work but if you don't make actual use of that with ejabberd, I'm not sure there's an advantage.

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[09:51:06] <Holger> Mnesia is 'built-in' and should perform very well for that use case. Redis makes sense if you actually want to integrate with some local stuff.
[09:51:12] <raucao> i'm quite displeased by using chatroom state whenever the room host goes down, so i looked at the db and found the empty tables there. so i thought maybe if i put it in something i have easy access to, like redis, it would be easier to restore state e.g.

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[09:51:39] <Holger> raucao: Ah XY problem 😃
[09:52:00] <Holger> Always good to mention the actual problem rather than the perceived solution.
[09:52:21] <raucao> my question is not specifically about a solution to that
[09:52:28] <raucao> more about general stability and consistency in a cluster

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[09:52:55] <raucao> i.e. if nodes still have access to a shared db, maybe things are smoother was my question

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[09:53:22] <raucao> but if you have a solution for this particular problem, i'm all ears! 😅

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[09:54:04] <raucao> also, when you don't have an overview of the codebase yet, it's nice to inspect the storage in something familiar to see what's actually happening, of course

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[09:54:13] <Holger> Redis should work fine. No idea whether it performs just as great as Mnesia but I wouldn't expect it to be bad.
But won't help with individual rooms not being clustered by the 'community edition'.

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[09:54:36] <Holger> > also, when you don't have an overview of the codebase yet, it's nice to inspect the storage in something familiar to see what's actually happening, of course
Yes I see that point.
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[09:55:39] <raucao> the point of FOSS is that i can alter it, so i could implement my own room recovery without relying on whatever room clustering code exists in proprietary code, no?

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[11:41:11] <Holger> raucao, sure, I'm not stopping you!

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[17:26:40] <zeank> https://github.com/processone/xmpp/pull/100 fixes a bug in handling of pubsub retract items, needed to make my rtbl integration in mod_antispam work. Fixes for ejabberd are here: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4373

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[17:28:42] <zeank> `mod_pubsub` treats `retract` as a list, for some reason dialyzer doesn't complain about that. But now if I want to treat it as a list in `mod_antispam_rtbl` I'm being scolded (for good reasons).

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