ejabberd - Thursday, June 26, 2025

[14:58:28] <Doofus Canadensis> from the looks of it ejabberdctl might be the only thing that's put in the same place for both
[14:58:59] <Doofus Canadensis> I should have used the container first to keep it isolated on my system

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[15:35:32] <badlop> you can compile from source code, then "make prod" and uncompress that into any path, or similarly install nightly installers into any path; in those cases use their ejabberdctl script

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[15:38:19] <badlop> to run several ejabberd nodes in the same machine, remember:
- in each ejabberd.yml setup different listening ports
- in each ejabberdctl.cfg setup a different ERLANG_NODE

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[16:15:28] <Doofus Canadensis> ah, COMPILE.md suggested that `make prod` was only for OTP (finding out what OTP meant was an interesting trip)

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[16:26:05] <Doofus Canadensis> now that I know I can `make prod` and end up with a package ready for installing, I think I can handle this better.

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[16:26:28] <Doofus Canadensis> I can do that on another machine then? copy the compiled package over to my VPS
[16:26:44] <Doofus Canadensis> didn't much like the idea of installing compiler tools on a production machine

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[16:28:49] <zoidberg> If its the same OS will be OK
[16:29:25] <zoidberg> Cross compiling is hell on earth(at least it was for me)

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[16:29:48] <zoidberg> But hey running ejabberd and eturnal on Openwrt!!!

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[16:39:56] <Doofus Canadensis> yeah, my vps is debian and I do have a debian system I can turn into a builder

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[16:40:27] <zoidberg> One thing
[16:40:45] <zoidberg> Whenever you get the package extract it on the target
[16:41:00] <zoidberg> Help with permissions all being right.

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[17:05:40] <Doofus Canadensis> noted

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[17:07:45] <Doofus Canadensis> and yeah, cross compiling is still an area of weakness for me

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[17:08:47] <Doofus Canadensis> between my raspberry pis and intel and apple silicon computers... even raspberry pi 4 vs zero w (64-bit vs 32-bit)... I haven't had a lot of crosscompile success

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[17:39:17] <Licaon_Kter> Doofus Canadensis: I never crosscompiled on RPi1 or 3 or 5. You can do it on the thing.

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[18:41:55] <kapad> ~~ /www/uploads/p/eaea17/d9fd/an-ejabberd-deb-package.png
- all **i** need is a symlink /opt/ejabbard/dist, point to (...)/opt/ejabberd-xx.yy
- then ejabberdctl is easy: `` exec /opt/ejabberd/dist/bin/ejabberdctl "$@" ``

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[18:42:18] <kapad> ~~ https://ua3.anondns.net/im/p/eaea17/d9fd/an-ejabberd-deb-package.png
- all **i** need is a symlink /opt/ejabbard/dist, point to (...)/opt/ejabberd-xx.yy
- then ejabberdctl is easy: `` exec /opt/ejabberd/dist/bin/ejabberdctl "$@" ``

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[18:44:53] <kapad> ^ >>> of course after carefully follow any migration steps, before the upgrade <<<

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[19:49:58] <ms-haze> ok *weird*: I figure out my config issue, but I'm still not sure what's causing it.
I have my macros set as such:
```
define_macro:
HOST: xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
ADMIN: ms-haze@xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
```
and later, below, I have:
```6

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[19:50:40] <ms-haze> ok *weird*: I figure out my config issue, but I'm still not sure what's causing it.
I have my macros set as such:
```
define_macro:
  HOST: xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
  ADMIN: ms-haze@xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
```
and later, below, I have:
```
acl:
  admin:
    user:
      - ADMIN
```
Changing that last bit to:
```
acl:
  admin:
    user:
      - ms-haze@xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
```6
[19:50:57] <ms-haze> ok *weird*: I figure out my config issue, but I'm still not sure what's causing it.
I have my macros set as such:
```
define_macro:
  HOST: xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
  ADMIN: ms-haze@xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
```
and later, below, I have:
```
acl:
  admin:
    user:
      - ADMIN
```
Changing that last bit to:
```
acl:
  admin:
    user:
      - ms-haze@xmpp.thoughtsofmine.ca
```
fixed everything, and now I can access the admin panel.
[19:51:16] <ms-haze> I have *no* idea why that actually worked, though, or why it didn't before

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[19:51:25] <ms-haze> all the other macro values appear to be working fine, too

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[20:14:37] <Doofus Canadensis> when do the macros get processed?

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[20:16:36] <Doofus Canadensis> is the whole config loaded and processed at once and used from that point on or do values get handled when they're needed?
[20:16:44] <ms-haze> According to the docs:
> Macros is a feature implemented internally by the yconf library and are replaced early and transparently to ejabberd. However, macros cannot be defined inside host_config.

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[20:16:50] <ms-haze> (https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/file-format/#macros-and-keywords)

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[20:17:01] <Doofus Canadensis> ah

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[20:23:42] <Holger> Doofus Canadensis: BTW if you end up wanting to cross compile, our tools/make-binaries script does support that.

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[20:40:00] <Doofus Canadensis> cool

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[20:40:33] <Doofus Canadensis> both build and VPS are running intel so I'm okay for now...
[20:40:59] <Doofus Canadensis> but it's good to know that if I want to use my MacBook Pro M1, I've got the means to do so

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