ejabberd - Thursday, July 24, 2025

[01:46:55] <bobcar> > i have a question, if mod_mam is disabled, do we need to setup external database then? how many users Mnesia can handle in that case?
can someone answer this please

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[05:04:26] <Licaon_Kter> bobcar: What would Mnesia store then? 50 offline messages per user?

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[07:20:33] <Pepe> We have been discussing about Mmesia vs SQLite this week, if your instance is new is very simple to implement sql instead of mnesia. I dont have information about how many users it can handle, but even if you have mod_mam disabled, I would recommend you SQL

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[07:21:09] <Pepe> > ```
> default_db: sql
> new_sql_schema: true
> sql_type: sqlite
> sql_database: "/opt/ejabberd/database/awesome.db"
> ```

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[07:23:34] <Pepe> I did the change two days ago and is literally writing that in the config. Ejanbberd takes care of creating the .db and all of that

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[13:00:56] <kapad> Pepe: you can also use another .db file for mam if you want

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[13:04:26] <kapad> you can also you mnesia for accounts and something else for something else, or the opposite. after some years running the same ejabberd instance, my mnesia dir is 167MB

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[13:06:07] <kapad> you can also use mnesia for accounts and something else for something else, or the opposite. after some years running the same ejabberd instance, my mnesia dir is 167MB

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[13:14:09] <kapad> i think that mam is the number one thing that consume/needs storage. if points mam archives outside the database, can have a very portable instance, also can manipulate the storage with common sql apps/scripts/code without to bother server. at least this is what i do

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[13:38:45] <Maïke> how to migrate from mnesia to sqlite?

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[13:59:43] <zoidberg> Found this, but not sure if still accurate: https://www.ejabberd.im/forum/28980/migrate-mnesia-sqlserver/index.html

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[2025-07-22 19:31:08]<xylobol> I tried a few days ago - theoretically you should be able to set up the sqlite stuff in your config (just don't make it default), run export2sql, load that sql file into sqlite using the CLI tool, then change your config again to use the new sqlite db by default but I messed up somewhere and couldn't get this working - take a snapshot then mess around and I'm sure you can work it out though

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[18:02:07] <bobcar> > bobcar: What would Mnesia store then? 50 offline messages per user?
yes probably, am thinking about mnesia just because its easy to dump and restore using ejjaberdctl and if mod_mam is disabled and offline messages are stored upto a limit and logs are cleared after a month or so, it can handle a lot of users i think , in theory

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[18:06:29] <bobcar> > I did the change two days ago and is literally writing that in the config. Ejanbberd takes care of creating the .db and all of that
you mean we dont need to create tables and all and just add the given lines in .yml and it creates tables and all?

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[18:09:41] <badlop> since version 23.10, ejabberd can take care to create the tables (and update schema if required), the admin just needs to create database, grant permissions and configure in ejabberd.yml, see
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/database/#database-schema

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[18:15:58] <bobcar> > since version 23.10, ejabberd can take care to create the tables (and update schema if required), the admin just needs to create database, grant permissions and configure in ejabberd.yml, see
> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/database/#database-schema
thankyou for this. i will give it a try and may i ask how to transfer mnesia database to sql , i saw some links but its not clear

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[18:26:57] <badlop> export mnesia content to sql files, that later you can import in your sql database:
https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/ejabberd-api/admin-api/#export2sql

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[18:34:29] <Kris> Quick question: I updated to 25.07 without noticing when doing a system upgrade. It works fine, but is there something I should change in the config to benefit from new features?

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[18:43:02] <badlop> looking at the release notes, there are two new modules worth looking

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[19:02:24] <bobcar> > Quick question: I updated to 25.07 without noticing when doing a system upgrade. It works fine, but is there something I should change in the config to benefit from new features?
am about to update also but i have to look on docs before i do that

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[19:06:27] <Holger> prefiks, badlop, Mickaël:
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/#auth_password_types_hidden_in_scram1
Shouldn't that have been called `_sasl1`?

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[19:06:42] <Holger> Sorry I hadn't seen the option before the release 😕

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[19:08:01] <Holger> (The docs mention SCRAM1/SCRAM2 rather than SASL1/SASL2 as well.)

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