ejabberd - Sunday, July 27, 2025

[06:35:09] <comrade_chunk> What is XMPPS ? I am curious about some ways to use _xmpps-client._tcp and _xmpps-server._tcp in SRV records. If I used this with priorities leaning towards _xmpps- would it make it prefer to use TLS? But what is the difference from STARTTLS/Direct TLS, which does _xmpps (SRV records) use, and which is better between STARTTLS and Direct TLS?
[06:35:13] <comrade_chunk> Any help appreciated

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[06:39:20] <zoidberg> Xmpps is for directtls

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[06:39:45] <zoidberg> the default port is 5223 and 5270 for S2S
[06:40:01] <zoidberg> And
[06:40:09] <zoidberg> As of today
[06:40:26] <zoidberg> Directtls is the best one

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[06:43:45] <comrade_chunk> zoidberg, oh nice. I'm going to dual wield XMPP servers on packets.cc again, and use different ports for ejabberd alongside prosody, and so I could actually benefit from using :5270 for _xmpp-server._tcp with a higher priority than _xmpp-server._tcp then as it will prefer DIRECTTLS eh?
[06:44:11] <comrade_chunk> sounds like you've answered my question, I just wanted to make sure I didn't mistake anything now.
[06:44:22] <zoidberg> xmpp = starttls
[06:44:31] <zoidberg> xmpps= directtls
[06:44:48] <comrade_chunk> starttls is the older mechanism then
[06:44:56] <zoidberg> Yes
[06:45:23] <comrade_chunk> nice, thanks very much zoidberg

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[06:55:02] <zoidberg> On my server i just deleted the starttls listener(closed the ports and so on), you can also make only directtls SRV records. This way you will force directls only. However it might break interoperability with some servers that still only use STARTTLS only.

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[06:57:24] <comrade_chunk> well I would've preferred to just delegate it with SRV priority. I'm trying to remember the ejabberd config, I think there's an option to dictate the type of TLS connection (starttls/directtls).
[06:57:54] <comrade_chunk> I'm also interested in maybe using the ejabberd api for once. I wonder if it has many nice HTTP endpoints I can program some stuff to it :D

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[07:00:07] <comrade_chunk> but I suppose I learned today: _xmpp-{client,server}._tcp (in SRV records) are for STARTTLS (an older method of connecting) and _xmpps-{client,server}._tcp is for DirectTLS (a newer "better" mechanism). With this I can emply my wishful setup :D
[07:00:19] <comrade_chunk> > but I suppose I learned today: _xmpp-{client,server}._tcp (in SRV records) are for STARTTLS (an older method of connecting) and _xmpps-{client,server}._tcp is for DirectTLS (a newer "better" mechanism). With this I can employ my wishful setup :D

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[07:04:00] <zoidberg> yes, you learned correctly.👍

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[07:04:52] <comrade_chunk> huzzah! i am now a zoidberg fan :D

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[07:17:49] <zoidberg> On the listener, to "dictate the type of tls" : on ther starttls listener ```starttls_required: true```

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[07:18:26] <zoidberg> And for direct: ```tls: true```

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[07:29:23] <comrade_chunk> ahh yes, i remember now, thank you
[07:29:55] <comrade_chunk> suppose, if I can stop xmpp-ing LOL, I can setup ejabberd this morning. It may take me a couple days tho. I bought a new domain i really like :D

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[07:42:57] <Jak2k> Is there a tutorial how to set up DANE with ejabberd?

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[07:46:24] <comrade_chunk> guys, we need more people to blog about xmpp configurations. make your blogs known!

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[21:19:46] <svp> hey uh "quick" question: i have a friend who wanted to setup a xmpp server over tor, and i've been trying to figure out what would the correct approach be to connect to an .onion address. i have privoxy set up to handle weird protocols and pass through normal stuff, but how would i have ejabberd communicate with it? or is there an obvious solution like prosody's mod_onions that i've been overlooking?

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