ejabberd - Wednesday, October 29, 2025

[05:09:21] <nigel_> Hey all, is there a rough guideline for when one should use postgres over sqlite? For example number of large public muc, number of local users etc?

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[05:49:11] <Licaon_Kter> nigel_: I used it on my RPi1B/256Mb

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[06:08:29] <zeank> Maybe it’s as easy as this: if you have to ask this question, you’ll be fine with SQLite.

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[06:11:38] <Licaon_Kter> I'd go the other way, better use real sql from the start

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[06:33:08] <zeank> To fire up Postgres will eat away several hundred MB of your RAM easily while not doing anything. That’s some cost to consider.

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[06:35:45] <Licaon_Kter> Depends...
[06:36:08] <Licaon_Kter> https://upload.convorb.im/7c370453f738f2c0c995eaee643e5e0aba76aeb0/qbrTEzU52GmT2YAPojYQkB9mPsUXbXRXc8KWuDsy/cAbtyWUvTDSD2Tupx_Wu-Q.jpg

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[06:40:08] <zeank> But then that’s a customized config for Postgres that trimmed it down significantly, right? And then, what’s the point? What’s you’re getting out of ”real SQL”(whatever that is)? (Serious question)

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[08:01:42] <zeank> I keep applying this small patch set to my server and I though maybe it’s time for a PR (you’re mileage might vary): https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4475
[08:02:04] <zeank> I keep applying this small patch set to my server and I though maybe it’s time for a PR (your mileage might vary): https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4475

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[08:35:40] <nigel_> > I'd go the other way, better use real sql from the start
Which is what I was wondering hah.

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[08:36:54] <nigel_> I am using postgres and have the spare headroom, I was just curious if I would again 🤔

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[11:56:45] <JuniorJPDJ> Hey, I'm running ejabberd in docker using ejabberd/ecs:25.08 image. I need to convert mnesia hostname. Start logs suggested this command: `ejabberdctl mnesia_change aca4a992b497@aca4a992b497`

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[11:57:21] <JuniorJPDJ> The problem is that then I get nodedown. I start node and its the same. Cannot then controll node at all, even stop it using `ejabberdctl`

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[11:58:10] <JuniorJPDJ> Like RPC wasnt working. Where should I look for a problem with RPC?

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[11:59:20] <prefiks> you are running ejabberdctl inside that docker container?

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[12:03:07] <JuniorJPDJ> yes

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[12:03:45] <JuniorJPDJ> normally I'm starting the ejabberd using `/home/ejabberd/bin/ejabberdctl foreground` here
[12:04:21] <JuniorJPDJ> now I use interactive shell as I try to play with it and start and foreground doesn't change that I cannot do stop or status or any other ctl command

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[12:04:47] <prefiks> could you run 'epmd -names' and see what it returns?

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[12:05:05] <JuniorJPDJ> ejabberd-0:~~$ epmd -names
epmd: up and running on port 4369 with data:
name aca4a992b497 at port 4370
[12:05:54] <prefiks> you can also execute commands directly from ejabberd shell

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[12:06:17] <JuniorJPDJ> ejabberd-0:~~$ /home/ejabberd/bin/ejabberdctl --node "aca4a992b497@aca4a992b497" status
Failed RPC connection to the node aca4a992b497@aca4a992b497: nodedown
[12:06:27] <JuniorJPDJ> how do I execute from ejabberd shell?
[12:06:35] <prefiks> hm, could you execute this in ejabberd shell: 'node().'
[12:06:42] <prefiks> that dot at end is important
[12:06:56] <JuniorJPDJ> sure, if you'll tell me how to go into this shell :D
[12:07:07] <prefiks> it probably will be --node "aca4a992b497@localhost'

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[12:07:25] <stratself> > sure, if you'll tell me how to go into this shell :D
probably with `docker exec -it ejabberd ash`

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[12:07:37] <JuniorJPDJ> not that shell, I'm there already
[12:07:50] <JuniorJPDJ> I guess this is some erlang shell that I need a command to access
[12:08:00] <stratself> my bad

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[12:08:24] <JuniorJPDJ> > it probably will be --node "aca4a992b497@localhost'
it's not, I checked it, this is the same node as I use to run it - else it's not working and this is exactly why I need to migrate the db ;D
[12:08:39] <prefiks> you will need to start ejabberd from shell, with 'ejabberdctl live'
[12:08:55] <prefiks> this should also give you access to ejabberd console

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[12:10:03] <JuniorJPDJ> ok, lets try, I guess I first need to kill already running one somehow, but stop shows nodedown
[12:10:13] <prefiks> could be also issue with cookie used to authenticate connections, let me see how to change that

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[12:18:09] <prefiks> could you tell me if you execute 'docker exec <name of your conatiner> ejabberdctl status' you also see that error?

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[12:21:14] <JuniorJPDJ> ok, I lied, this is kubernetes, docker exec wont work :D I'm inside the container shell, and simple `ejabberdctl status` shows exactly the same problem - nodedown

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[12:21:34] <prefiks> ok

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[13:29:17] <JuniorJPDJ> any other ideas?

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[13:38:57] <prefiks> run 'erl -boot_var RELEASE_LIB /home/ejabberd/lib -sname abc@localhost -boot start_clean'

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[13:39:33] <prefiks> and in that execute "net_adm:ping('aca4a992b497@localhost')."

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[13:46:15] <JuniorJPDJ> pang
[13:46:17] <JuniorJPDJ> no connection

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[13:46:33] <JuniorJPDJ> also tried with the node name I use to start ejabberd and the same - pang

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[13:47:25] <prefiks> do you have $HOME/.erlang.cookie file?

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[13:47:48] <JuniorJPDJ> yes, it's there
[13:48:05] <JuniorJPDJ> and it 20 characters of big letters
[13:48:19] <prefiks> then i think it shouldn't be problem with different cookie, as both should take it from it

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[14:50:03] <JuniorJPDJ> > hm, could you execute this in ejabberd shell: 'node().'
I'll try this, but first I need to kill the container, so I gonna be offline (I'm writing through this ejabberd :D)

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[14:54:33] <JuniorJPDJ> oh, it just shows the node name
[14:54:41] <JuniorJPDJ> `aca4a992b497@aca4a992b497`

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[14:55:23] <prefiks> ok, it may be then a problem with resolving aca4a992b497 to ip address
[14:56:04] <prefiks> could in normal shell see what host aca4a992b497 returns?

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[15:32:29] <JuniorJPDJ> no address like that, that would make sense
[15:32:40] <JuniorJPDJ> I can try setting it in hosts to 127.0.0.1

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[15:34:13] <prefiks> yes, i would try that and see if it help

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[15:42:19] <JuniorJPDJ> heck yeah, it worked, thank you very much!
[15:42:25] <JuniorJPDJ> I'd never think about that :D

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[15:49:36] <zoidberg> But you just did

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[16:00:50] <JuniorJPDJ> migrated, thank you very much for your support prefiks

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[16:41:10] <ChaosKid42> Preloading of rooms as of `preload_rooms: true` in https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod_muc does not seem to work with 25.10 in case you use an SQL database. I created a PR for it (https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4476) but I'm not sure if this covers all the cases.

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