ejabberd - Tuesday, December 2, 2025

[09:21:41] <zeank> Hidiho! Is there an automated way on how to create the sql files in `<ejabberd>/sql/` like `sql/mysql.sql`? Or do I just use mysqldump or so and edit by hand? (@badlop maybe?)

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[11:18:19] <zeank> Anybody an idea what could have caused this? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/actions/runs/19856108503/job/56894396380
[11:18:24] <zeank> Kinda stuck

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[11:27:29] <prefiks> zeank: those sql files are created manually, there is ejabberd_sql_schema:print_schema that kinda can help with that

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[11:35:38] <prefiks> zeank: about test, could you try placing invites_tests:single_cases() afet offline_tests:single_cases in ejabberd_suite?
[11:36:21] <prefiks> seems that somehow this changes indices of messages that offline is expecting, maybe swapping that around will help

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[11:38:58] <zeank> Oh. That makes sense. Thanks!

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[11:52:55] <zeank> Guess I could also just try to clean up after myself. I think it’s those welcome messages being sent after a new account has been registered.

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[11:54:27] <zeank> Because I think the failure happens in the „multi“ scenario, which would always be after „single“.

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[12:01:24] <prefiks> ah indeed, and it's probably because those extra messages

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[12:02:24] <prefiks> you can call mod_offline:remove_user(<<"user">>, <<"server">>), to cleanup offline tables at end of your tests

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[12:13:06] <zeank> Yes, I might have just forgotten at some place

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[12:16:55] <zeank> I mean to remove the newly created users altogether, this should ultimately trigger mod_offline too, I guess

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[12:41:15] <zeank> Sigh, what's going on now? https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/actions/runs/19858666089/job/56902965845?pr=4493#step:9:28 (dialyzer having a stroke?)

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[12:59:34] <zeank> prefiks: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/commit/220eb98f2e1a7869ba9d313bb910a8d5bcedc284 breaks the build - either you make serialize return an error tuple properly or you must match against sth like {ok, {error, ...} = Err, ...} -> Err.

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[13:00:14] <prefiks> eh, will fix in a sec
[13:00:20] <zeank> \o/

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[13:08:38] <prefiks> zeank: pushed
[13:09:01] <zeank> thx

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[16:14:09] <Pikarobbi> > hey there, is it possible to use non PLAIN auth mechanism when authenticating users against LDAP ?
Yes, you can configure it like this
```
auth_method: [ldap]
auth_password_format: scram
auth_scram_hash: sha512
```
Note that the LDAP implementation has to support the chosen hash function.
For example for openLDAP you have to install the extra module `slapd-pw-sha2` for sha512 hash support.

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[16:33:00] <Kris> Pikarobbi: is this documented somewhere?
[16:34:27] <Kris> Do you happen to know if this is supported by lldap?

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[16:35:57] <prefiks> Pikarobbi: i don't think it's really possible, xmpp auth for those is not really compatible with what ldap uses

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[16:38:34] <Pikarobbi> The options are documented in https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/toplevel/, and it is nowhere documented that it does not work with LDAP. But, there is no explicit documentation that it does work.
I have an XMPP server with ejabberd and openLDAP and I confirmed that it does work.
I don't know Whether lldap supports it.

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[16:39:52] <Kris> How did you confirm that it does work?
[16:39:55] <prefiks> Pikarobbi: ah, sorry what i was thinking about is using scram stored data in ldap

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[16:41:44] <Pikarobbi> > How did you confirm that it does work?
I checked the password hash that is stored in the LDAP database after changing my user password through gajim.
[16:41:49] <prefiks> this can't work with what xmpp uses, as hash calculation used by xmpp and ldap is slightly different, and calculated values can't be compared

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[16:44:01] <Kris> > this can't work with what xmpp uses, as hash calculation used by xmpp and ldap is slightly different, and calculated values can't be compared
🤔
[16:44:36] <Kris> I would be quite interested in using it if it did actually work, but I assumed it doesn't so far.

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[16:49:26] <Pikarobbi> > this can't work with what xmpp uses, as hash calculation used by xmpp and ldap is slightly different, and calculated values can't be compared
I think when you use LDAP as the authentication backend, ejabberd will not calculate any hashes. I don't know how ejabberd implements it, but I assume it simply forwards the authentication request to LDAP. So why would ejabberd have to compute hashes?

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[16:51:33] <Kris> Wouldn't that assume the xmpp clients know how to calculate the hash in the exact same way as ldap does?
[16:51:35] <prefiks> it's not ejabberd and ldap in this case but ldap and xmpp client

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[16:52:36] <stratself> i only ever used normal auth and see the plain passwords pass through directly in debug logs. Would be nice to confirm it can work otherwise
[16:52:38] <prefiks> and both xmpp client and ldap do calculate that different (iirc difference was in username field used to calculate those)

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[16:53:23] <Kris> stratself: it does work if you don't use an external auth method.

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[16:53:42] <prefiks> what can work is getting plain password from ldap, and xmpp client doing scram auth in that case ejabberd does calculate hash from plain password from ldap and compares it to what xmpp client sends
[16:53:44] <stratself> > stratself: it does work if you don't use an external auth method.
i'm talking about external ldap specifically

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[16:54:36] <Kris> > what can work is getting plain password from ldap, and xmpp client doing scram auth in that case ejabberd does calculate hash from plain password from ldap and compares it to what xmpp client sends
How would one configure that?
[16:55:06] <Kris> (But I guess storing plain passwords in LDAP is also bad)

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[18:06:11] <Slava Bendersky> Hello Everyone, how hard will be add extension to current mod_sip to pull XMPP presence information and be able to pass via SIP PUBLISH SUBSCRIBE down to sip trunk to use as shared presence server

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[18:46:29] <Kris> Slava Bendersky: maybe this would be better? https://sylkserver.com/

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[18:49:18] <Slava Bendersky> hmm you mean use as XMPP gateway ?

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[18:50:43] <Kris> I have never actually tried it, but it seemed related to your question 😅

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[18:53:24] <Slava Bendersky> https://docs.sipthor.net/w/sylkserver/designxmpp/designxmpp_presence/

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[18:53:31] <Slava Bendersky> that exactly the case

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[22:42:22] <svp> hello, just wanted to chime in with 2 cents
the first thing being i want to point out the mod_mam section of the 25.10 docs doesnt show the improved tag in the table of contents
the other thing being... i am not quite sure i get the wording of archive_muc_as_mucsub, and if it's something i could be potentially interested in enabling

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