ejabberd - Thursday, January 8, 2026

[00:36:28] <brian> > > Ended up disabling matrix_id_as_jid though. Hoping for a future ACL option or something to work around the matrix.org problem (in which them having a bifrost xmpp gateway prevents ejabberd from falling back to matrix)
> >
> wait, what?
matrix_id_as_jid enabled ejabberd to transparently fall back to connecting to matrix users / channels even when entered as a normal xmpp address. Meaning "#tlug.jp@matrix.org" would automatically be handled as "#tlug.jp%matrix.org@(mod_matrix_gw domain)" but appear to the end user as the former address.
To do that, ejabberd first tries connecting via xmpp, then if it fails, mod_matrix_gw tries connecting as if it were a matrix address. Unfortunately, the flagship matrix instance (matrix.org) has a broken xmpp server for some weird bridging thing they gave up on years ago, so ejabberd doesn't complete the fallback.
So I was saying I hope that in the future ejabberd adds some ability to list domains to "never connect as xmpp, just assume it's a matrix server"
[00:36:39] <brian> > > Ended up disabling matrix_id_as_jid though. Hoping for a future ACL option or something to work around the matrix.org problem (in which them having a bifrost xmpp gateway prevents ejabberd from falling back to matrix)
> >
> wait, what?
matrix_id_as_jid enables ejabberd to transparently fall back to connecting to matrix users / channels even when entered as a normal xmpp address. Meaning "#tlug.jp@matrix.org" would automatically be handled as "#tlug.jp%matrix.org@(mod_matrix_gw domain)" but appear to the end user as the former address.
To do that, ejabberd first tries connecting via xmpp, then if it fails, mod_matrix_gw tries connecting as if it were a matrix address. Unfortunately, the flagship matrix instance (matrix.org) has a broken xmpp server for some weird bridging thing they gave up on years ago, so ejabberd doesn't complete the fallback.
So I was saying I hope that in the future ejabberd adds some ability to list domains to "never connect as xmpp, just assume it's a matrix server"

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[00:37:34] <brian> > > Ended up disabling matrix_id_as_jid though. Hoping for a future ACL option or something to work around the matrix.org problem (in which them having a bifrost xmpp gateway prevents ejabberd from falling back to matrix)
> >
> wait, what?
matrix_id_as_jid enables ejabberd to transparently fall back to connecting to matrix users / channels even when entered as a normal xmpp address. Meaning "#tlug.jp@matrix.org" would automatically be handled as "#tlug.jp%matrix.org@(mod_matrix_gw domain)" but appear to the end user as the former address.
To do that, ejabberd first tries connecting via xmpp, then if it fails, mod_matrix_gw tries connecting as if it were a matrix address. Unfortunately, the flagship matrix instance (matrix.org) has a broken xmpp server for some weird bridging thing they gave up on years ago, so ejabberd connects to that and then doesn't complete the fallback.
So I was saying I hope that in the future ejabberd adds some ability to list domains to "never connect as xmpp, just assume it's a matrix server"

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[02:17:12] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> what is the ejabberd equivalent to https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_limits so that i can recommend it to server admins?

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[02:18:27] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> (tl;dr module for ratelimiting per user activity in muc)

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[08:41:53] <prefiks> jjj333_p (any pronouns), at least some parts of this are builtin and configured by shaper options in mod_muc, and maybe minimum interval options
[08:42:11] <prefiks> let me check if i have config that uses it somewhere

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[08:45:09] <Holger> There's also mod_muc's `min_presence_interval`.

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[08:48:09] <prefiks> shaper:
  muc_limits:
    rate: 100 # 100 bytes/s max
    burst_size: 500 # allow 500 bytes burst
shaper_rules:
  muc_messages:
    none: admin
    muc_limits: all
modules:
  mod_muc:
    user_message_shaper: muc_messages

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[08:51:33] <prefiks> yes, plus min_message_interval: 2, for requiring 2s pause between messages

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[18:39:00] <Doofus Canadensis> This part is new to me.
> To do that, ejabberd first tries connecting via xmpp, then if it fails, mod_matrix_gw tries connecting as if it were a matrix address. Unfortunately, the flagship matrix instance (matrix.org) has a broken xmpp server for some weird bridging thing they gave up on years ago, so ejabberd connects to that and then doesn't complete the fallback.
>
And it explains why I had so many issues trying to figure out why `mod_matrix_gw` couldn't connect to my matrix.org rooms

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