ejabberd - Sunday, January 5, 2025

[03:25:02] <Adrien> > Hmm, not sure how to check that either, but the error sounds like it wasn't signed at all.
Hi @Kris, sorry for the delay, I'll check today/tomorrow.

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[10:35:17] <Kris> >> Hmm, not sure how to check that either, but the error sounds like it wasn't signed at all.
> Hi @Kris, sorry for the delay, I'll check today/tomorrow.
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[13:04:43] <qgj> Hi everyone, I have a question related to STUN/TURN server configuration. I'm trying to make my synapse server use my ejabberd's built-in STUN/TURN component. I've read about https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2947 followed up by https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/3235 which made me think that I would now be able to use `auth_method: secret` and `auth_secret: "my$3cr3T"` inside the listen section of ejabberd.yml, however when starting the container I get an error message saying that those options are invalid. Can someone help me out on configuring ejabberd to accept connections from outside? Thanks a lot in advance!

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[13:16:42] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: Exact error message? Gist of your cleaned .yml?

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[13:17:52] <qgj> Of course:
`[critical] Failed to start ejabberd application: Unknown option: auth_method. Did you mean auth_realm?`
[13:18:02] <qgj> Just a second for the cleaned yml

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[13:19:29] <qgj> ```
# ...
listen:
  -
    port: 3478
    ip: 0.0.0.0
    transport: udp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    auth_realm: example.com
    turn_min_port: 49152
    turn_max_port: 65535
    auth_type: secret
    auth_secret: "myauthsecret"
# ...
```

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[13:21:12] <qgj> Sorry, for the error message, it should be `Unknown option: auth_type`3,
[13:21:17] <qgj> Sorry, for the error message, it should be `Unknown option: auth_type`

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[13:28:34] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod_stun_disco
[13:29:37] <Licaon_Kter> Ah, wait, component....ummm
[13:29:58] <qgj> Oh well, my bad, sorry - so it has to be set in the modules section, not in listen. So I guess I'll just have to set the secret and then I'm good to go? Or do I also have to set a specific value in "access"?

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[13:31:07] <Licaon_Kter> There's no 'secret' type, see https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/listen#ejabberd_stun

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[13:33:16] <qgj> I mean in `mod_stun_disco`

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[13:36:12] <qgj> so as far as I understand, my modules section would have to look like this:
```
modules:
  mod_stun_disco:
    credentials_lifetime: 12h
    secret: "myauthsecret"
    services:
      -
        host: 0.0.0.0
        port: 3478
        type: stun
        transport: udp
        restricted: false
      -
        host: 0.0.0.0
        port: 3478
        type: turn
        transport: udp
        restricted: true
      -
        host: example.com
        port: 5349
        type: stuns
        transport: tcp
        restricted: false
      -
        host: example.com
        port: 5349
        type: turns
        transport: tcp
        restricted: true
```
and the listen part would stay like this:
```
listen:
  -
    port: 3478
    ip: 0.0.0.0
    transport: udp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    auth_realm: example.com
    turn_min_port: 49152
    turn_max_port: 65535
```
?

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[13:46:18] <Holger> qgj: Using the built-in TURN server with synapse is currently not supported sorry. You'd have to use an external one (like eturnal or Coturn). That one could be used with both synapse and ejabberd.

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[13:47:49] <Holger> (The built-in one currently supports per-domain configuration which cannot easily be combined with supporting external clients.)
[13:48:02] <Holger> (The built-in one currently supports per-XMPP-domain configuration which cannot easily be combined with supporting external clients.)

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[13:49:31] <qgj> Holger, alright, thanks for the information. Then I'll look out for an explanation on how to configure ejabberd with coturn, cheers.

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[14:05:57] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: eturnal.net

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[14:09:45] <qgj> Licaon_Kter, would you recommend eturnal over coturn?
[14:10:11] <Licaon_Kter> Yes, eturnal is the ejabberd turn code extracted to a standalone thing :)

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[14:10:39] <qgj> Oh nice. So it should also work just fine with dynamic IPs and DynDNS?

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[14:13:32] <Kris> No since for some reason STUN/TURN use IPs directly.
[14:13:59] <Kris> All of them seem to require workarounds to deal with dyndns

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[14:17:41] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: When your IP changes you need to quickly update the external IP and restart eturnal... it can be done pretty seamlessly imho
[14:18:15] <qgj> so create a simple bash script using `sed` and restarting the server afterwards I guess?
[14:18:37] <Licaon_Kter> Holger has such a script iirc
[14:19:37] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/eturnal/blob/master/examples/check-relay-ip
[14:20:07] <qgj> Awesome, thanks a lot!

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[14:24:03] <qgj> Holger, how often do you normally run it? once a day or every couple of minutes?

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[14:24:49] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: how often does it change for you on average?

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[14:25:06] <Holger> *I* don't run it at all 😉 Question is obviously how fast you want TURN fixed after an address change.

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[14:25:40] <Holger> The script is cheap, so running it once every few (or even one) minutes should be fine.
[14:25:50] <qgj> Holger, true. :) Licaon_Kter, it changes once a day so it'd probably be enough to run it once a day. I'll have a look at my router to see when the IP normally changes.

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[14:26:58] <Licaon_Kter> qgj: I'd run it more often, like once per hour else if you miss the change you'd have no calls for a whole day?

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[14:28:23] <qgj> good catch. My public IP seems to change everyday around 1.15am but yes it'd probably be better to set a shorter re-run time.

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[14:28:42] <Holger> Could be modified to use /opt/eturnal/bin/stun rather than HTTP in order to save some bytes of traffic 🙂

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[14:29:45] <qgj> I'll probably go with the Docker variant and just restart the container afterwards

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[14:30:39] <qgj> So the last line would probably need to be modified to `test "modified_config" = 'false' || exec "cd /home/containers/eturnal && docker compose restart"`
[14:31:23] <qgj> and ofc the eturnal_url value.

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[14:45:09] <Adrien> About the RPM packages not being signed, @Kris:
It should be fixed now. I updated the script and reran it, so it should be more resilient for future releases. I tested it in a CentOS container to reproduce the issue. If you notice anything unusual, feel free to ping me, and I'll gladly assist.
NB: You might need to clean your package manager cache to refresh the metadata (e.g. `dnf clean all`).

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[14:50:47] <Licaon_Kter> Adrien: Post in https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4332 too

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[15:04:35] <Kris> > About the RPM packages not being signed, @Kris:
> It should be fixed now. I updated the script and reran it, so it should be more resilient for future releases. I tested it in a CentOS container to reproduce the issue. If you notice anything unusual, feel free to ping me, and I'll gladly assist.
> NB: You might need to clean your package manager cache to refresh the metadata (e.g. `dnf clean all`).
👍

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[15:35:47] <note> Hi. Here is ip_access: trusted_network what addresses are considered trusted? When I enable this option I can't register.
[15:39:11] <Holger> note: That's not hardcoded but specified in your configuration. See here for the example: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/457d8fc6ccd927304dad5abbd984b170914d2dae/ejabberd.yml.example#L90-L110

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[15:41:34] <note> Thank you ))

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[15:49:01] <qgj> Holger or Licaon_Kter, just do make sure: Is there any documentation on how to run ejabberd with an external eturnal container? I couldn't find any in the ejabberd docs. From what I understand, I'll just take out the `ejabberd_stun` part from `listen:` and adjust settings for my eturnal server in `mod_stun_disco`? Sorry for so many stupid questions.

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[15:51:58] <Holger> qgj: Not stupid at all, this stuff is non-obvious. But yes that's basically what you'd do (all those `mod_stun_disco` options you listed above are meant for external servers; for the internal ejabberd_stun you wouldn't need them).

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[15:53:18] <qgj> Alright. Cheers again and entspannten Sonntagabend. 😄️

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[15:54:05] <Holger> qbit: While at it I'd suggest sticking to UDP-only, TLS basically only makes sense on 443 to allow clients to circumvent restrictive firewalls. Otherwise it's useless, and the downside is a little more latency during call negotiation (as clients allocate TLS relays 'just in case').

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[15:54:26] <Holger> qgj: STUNS is not even supported by libwebrtc and friends.

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[15:57:50] <qgj> Holger, so I can probably just leave that one out in configuration.
[15:58:10] <Holger> Yup.

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[18:16:28] <qgj> Holger, I'm a bit confused. The example eturnal.yml file states:
```
## The server's public IPv4 address (default: autodetected):
#relay_ipv4_addr: "203.0.113.4"
```
Which would tell me the IP is being automatically detected, thus I'd only have to restart the container every night and the IP would be refreshed automatically, or am I wrong?

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[18:19:39] <Holger> That's right, assuming auto-detection works, which it might not, esp. in containers.
[18:20:23] <qgj> Alright, so I'll just give it a shot and if it won't work, I'll have the script set-up and waiting. 👍 Thanks again for your time.
[18:20:31] <Holger> Then again I think our containers have a knob for asking stun.conversations.im for the address on boot. (Which is different from the auto-detection.)

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[18:37:49] <Holger> https://eturnal.net/doc/container.html#general-hints

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[18:39:49] <Holger> This would set the environment variable ETURNAL_RELAY_IPV4_ADDR, which is used if relay_ipv4_addr isn't specified. If neither of those are set, eturnal falls back to the autodetection mentioned in the above comment, which just tries to figure out the public IP address by listing the addresses of your local interfaces.

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[18:51:33] <Kris> > Then again I think our containers have a knob for asking stun.conversations.im for the address on boot. (Which is different from the auto-detection.)
🤔

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[19:27:24] <qgj> Alright. I'll have a closer look at the logs and give things a try!

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[20:33:12] <qgj> Anyone got any idea why I'm getting following message in my eturnal log when trying to build a video call connection through eturnal?
`[notice] Rejecting permission creation request: Forbidden [UDP, session a1b2c3d4e5f6, user 1234567890:abebajsdfbbcd, client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9966, relay myip:49182]`
For me it sounds like a wrong secret is being passed. In mod_stun_disco, I passed `secret: "myverystrongsecret"` which is just the secret entered both in `eturnal.yml` at `secret: "myverystrongsecret"` as well as passed as env var `ETURNAL_SECRET=myverystrongsecret` (notice I didn't put the very strong secret in double quotes at the env var). Any thoughts on that? the IP address seems to be detected correctly.

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[20:34:15] <qgj> TrickleICE does at least seem to find the stun server through `stun:example.com:3478` correctly.

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[20:41:27] <qgj> btw I changed the following in ejabberd.yml:
```
modules:
  mod_stun_disco:
  secret: "myverystrongsecret"
  services:
    -
      host: example.com
```
and for the turn service, `restricted` is still set to `true`.
Relevant content from eturnal.yml:
```
eturnal:
  secret: "myverystrongsecret"
  listen:
    -
      ip: "::"
      port: 3478
      transport: udp
      enable_turn: true
    -
      ip: "::"
      port: 3478
      transport: tcp
      enable_turn: true
  blacklist_peers:
    - recommended
```
I double-checked UFW and port forwardings.

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[21:07:15] <Kris> > About the RPM packages not being signed, @Kris:
> It should be fixed now. I updated the script and reran it, so it should be more resilient for future releases. I tested it in a CentOS container to reproduce the issue. If you notice anything unusual, feel free to ping me, and I'll gladly assist.
> NB: You might need to clean your package manager cache to refresh the metadata (e.g. `dnf clean all`).
upgrade via .rpm repo worked fine now. Thanks!

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[22:06:16] <qgj> Wow, that was an unbelievably stupid mistake.
Just for anyone interested or having similar problems in future:
I had my docker-compose.yml port rules set to:
```
  ports:
# ...
    - 49152:49300/udp
```
Of course they should have been set to
```
  ports:
# ...
    - 49152-49300:49152-49300/udp
```
What a hastle. Sorry for bothering anyone here.
[22:07:07] <qgj> Wow, that was an unbelievably stupid mistake.
Just for anyone interested or having similar problems in future:
I had my docker-compose.yml port rules set to:
```
  ports:
# ...
    - 49152:49300/udp
```
Of course they should have been set to
```
  ports:
# ...
    - 49152-49300:49152-49300/udp
```
What a hassle. Sorry for bothering anyone here.

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