ejabberd - Sunday, November 1, 2026

[02:15:45] <Nigel> I can grep logs and work put who it is and via someone else get a DM sent to them, and then they can disconnect that client, but this feels like it should not be a me problem.

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[02:18:33] <moparisthebest> same "ejabberd wrongly validates xml:lang" issue that's been known for years ?

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[02:19:56] <Nigel> I am assuming so.
Be nice if ejabberd just dropped it instead of sending an error to the muc which then kicks me, and my client tries to rejoin... and repeat.

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[02:20:51] <Nigel> Especially in operators muc where someone may want to get hold of me for an issue, and now cant.

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[02:21:43] <moparisthebest> or just stop trying to validate lang at all, but yea lots of ways to fix

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[03:10:53] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> i do wonder if its partially the fault of the hosting muc (iirc prosody) for not validating, though either way it would be best to be more permissive in accepting especially from remote mucs where you dont really have to process

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[03:13:07] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> i believe this issue has also cropped up in one of my mucs (the offending sending client being yaxim) which is also prosody based so it seems to be ejabberd is being more strict when recieving

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[03:21:20] <moparisthebest> you basically can't sanely validate language tags

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[03:22:22] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> what does it even mean to validate them, because surely you cant be validating the content matches up

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[03:22:54] <jjj333_p (any pronouns)> just that its a "valid language" ?

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[03:24:01] <moparisthebest> even that is basically impossible:
> Some examples include:
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>     gsw-u-sd-chzh represents Swiss German as used in the Canton of Zurich.
>     ar-u-nu-latn represents Arabic-language content using Basic Latin digits (0 through 9) instead of Arabic-script digits (٠ through ٩).
>     he-IL-u-ca-hebrew-tz-jeruslm represents Hebrew as spoken in Israel, using the traditional Hebrew calendar, and in the "Asia/Jerusalem" time zone as identified in the tz database.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IETF_language_tag

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