ejabberd - Thursday, February 26, 2026

[10:41:43] <zeank> Hey! 👋
I have a new PR coming, but for some odd reason it just won't get a green build. Is coveralls just having a really bad day or is there something wrong with my PR? Tests run smoothly on my machine, also dialyzer, xref, elvis all seem fine. What could it be?
> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4538

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[10:43:10] <prefiks> just issue with coverall server i guess
[10:43:12] <marc0s> I synced my fork yesterday and some tests are failing too. Maybe something on the github actions side?
[10:44:16] <zeank> Ok, then I'll just stop pulling my hair for now :D

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[11:12:24] <badlop> coveralls.io has bad days from time to time, i'll try to improve the workflows to handle that case

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[11:46:01] <neox> Hey there, probably dumb question but I got a problem on the public server I manage. In the context of A/V calls, I see that when one of the caller or callee use TURN to relay, it works. However, it seems that if both use relaying, connection fails. I tried to debug that with Conversations and I get ICE candidates and all, but none is selected (according to Conversations)

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[11:49:40] <zoidberg> Using built in eturnal?

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[11:49:55] <zoidberg> If so, did you set the relay ip?

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[11:58:35] <neox> zoidberg, indeed the built-in eturnal. I did setup like this:
```
  -
    port: 3478
    ip: "::"
    transport: udp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    auth_type: user
    turn_ipv4_address: PUBLIC_IPV4
    turn_ipv6_address: PUBLIC_IPV6
    turn_max_port: 50000
    turn_min_port: 49152
  -
    port: 3478
    ip: "::"
    transport: tcp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    auth_type: user
    turn_ipv4_address: PUBLIC_IPV4
    turn_ipv6_address: PUBLIC_IPV6
    turn_max_port: 50000
    turn_min_port: 49152
  -
    port: 5349
    ip: "::"
    transport: tcp
    module: ejabberd_stun
    use_turn: true
    auth_type: user
    tls: true
    turn_ipv4_address: PUBLIC_IPV4
    turn_ipv6_address: PUBLIC_IPV6
    turn_max_port: 50000
    turn_min_port: 49152
```

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[11:59:18] <zoidberg> tcp on the 3478

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[11:59:39] <zoidberg> not advised
[12:00:07] <zoidberg> also in general not advised

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[12:00:12] <neox> Interesting, where should I put a non-tls tcp option?
[12:00:33] <zoidberg> Unless using tls on the 443 so clients can evade restrictive firewalls

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[12:00:56] <zoidberg> transport: udp
[12:01:16] <neox> zoidberg, to my understanding the usual "evading process is" udp then (if not working) tcp then tls on tcp
[12:01:20] <zoidberg> Also open your firewall /udp

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[12:01:56] <zoidberg> Nope, standard is udp, but an extra
[12:02:01] <zoidberg> Dont use the 3478
[12:02:09] <zoidberg> Too much abuse on that port too

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[12:02:36] <zoidberg> But that is not your problem just a extra info

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[12:02:39] <neox> zoidberg, well, just to be clear: when I have only one of the caller or callee using the TURN, it already works and I can see in ejabberd logs the allocation and stats being successful, and also Conversations telling that it selected the ICE server
[12:02:52] <zoidberg> ++ did you open your range/udp only ?

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[12:03:39] <zoidberg> This tests are not that black and white, sometimes it might work for some reason or another
[12:04:12] <zoidberg> 49152:50000/udp must be open

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[12:04:23] <zoidberg> And the 3478/udp too

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[12:04:34] <zoidberg> If you change to udp
[12:04:39] <neox> Yeah it is
[12:04:51] <neox> > If you change to udp
There is already udp enabled (and used)

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[12:04:58] <neox> All that you said is already open
[12:05:29] <zoidberg> 5349 can also be udp
[12:05:51] <Holger> neox: I think it's highly unlikely you'll stumble over a network that allows UDP on 3478 but not TCP on 3478. The only (corner) case I've seen in practice is firewalls allowing only TLS on 443. So my recommendation would be to either (a) ignore those corner cases and offer UDP only, or (b) offer TLS *ON 443* as the only fallback. Offering more options increases call negotiation latency for no advantage.

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[12:06:38] <neox> Holger, understood. Option (b) seems reasonable

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[12:07:18] <Holger> neox: If both clients are using the same TURN server, the server will end up talking UDP to itself, on the `turn_ipv4_address` using a random port in that range.

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[12:07:48] <Holger> neox: So if specifically that case fails but relaying does work in all other scenarios, it's likely that the server cannot reach itself on that address.
[12:07:49] <zoidberg> neox: do you have a VPN on the same server(and one of the clients connected to the VPN also trying to call?)

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[12:08:17] <neox> > neox: So if specifically that case fails but relaying does work in all other scenarios, it's likely that the server cannot reach itself on that address.
Oh. I'm going to look into that then
[12:08:18] <Holger> E.g. would happen if the server is behind NAT (and the doesn't translate back). Or some packet filter foo.
[12:08:29] <Holger> Or some other networking foo :D

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[12:13:38] <zoidberg> for some rare scenarios binding eturnal to the real internet interface helps(instead of letting it listen to `ip: "::"`

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[12:19:56] <Holger> > I think it's highly unlikely you'll stumble over a network that allows UDP on 3478 but not TCP on 3478.
I meant vice-versa, of course, but this sentence was at least as true :D

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[12:52:46] <neox> Thanks a lot for your help, I was able to fix my problem by creating an IP alias on the server so that it does not try to reach the NAT from behind it ;)

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[12:56:23] <badlop> coveralls is having issues right now
https://status.coveralls.io/

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[12:57:07] <badlop> zeank: with the new commit, workflows succeed regardless of coveralls step :)

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[13:01:44] <Holger> neox: Ah NAT. Yes that would've been my suggestion then.

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[16:31:56] <zeank> badlop, unfortunately there's an issue with the code you just merged, it breaks pages when using debian packages libjs-jquery and libjs-bootstrap4. Not sure what to do about that. Will look into that tomorrow and come up with a solution.
[16:32:16] <zeank> Sorry for that. Forgot to double check that scenario.

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[16:33:46] <zeank> It pins those shared static files to exact versions (hash sums), and they don't match...

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