ejabberd - Monday, April 6, 2026

[05:08:13] <zoidberg> moparisthebest: Maybe you are talking about XMPP over QUIC when you say "doesnt actually have latency benefits" because on my experiences(with webservers hosted at 18000+ km away) QUIC does absolutely humiliate non QUIC connections.

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[05:11:32] <zoidberg> But maybe correlation is not causation and maybe i am benefiting from other factors,
[05:11:40] <zoidberg> But maybe correlation is not causation and maybe i am benefiting from other factors.

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[06:05:24] <stratself> > QUIC doesn't actually have latency benefits, the main benefit for XMPP imho is when your device hops between networks, LTE, wifi, ethernet, or goes through a tunnel or whatever, you don't need to reconnect, you just stay connected
it does get rid of head of line blocking too yeah? so also stability in that regard

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[06:12:15] <stratself> > moparisthebest: Maybe you are talking about XMPP over QUIC when you say "doesnt actually have latency benefits" because on my experiences(with webservers hosted at 18000+ km away) QUIC does absolutely humiliate non QUIC connections.
i think no hol blocking and reduced initial handshakes would help a lot. The latter especially for TTFB latency.
Though I guess a webserver isn't a single stream like xmpp, so the compounding effects of multiplexing is clearer

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[13:45:43] <moparisthebest> >> QUIC doesn't actually have latency benefits, the main benefit for XMPP imho is when your device hops between networks, LTE, wifi, ethernet, or goes through a tunnel or whatever, you don't need to reconnect, you just stay connected
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> it does get rid of head of line blocking too yeah? so also stability in that regard
head of line blocking still exists with 1 stream, you can use multiple streams but if you don't this isn't a benefit

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[13:47:44] <moparisthebest> > moparisthebest: Maybe you are talking about XMPP over QUIC when you say "doesnt actually have latency benefits" because on my experiences(with webservers hosted at 18000+ km away) QUIC does absolutely humiliate non QUIC connections.
yes because http involves a ton of independent requests that can happen in parallel and without quic often open multiple tls connections, but xmpp opens 1 so not as big of a benefit

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[14:13:58] <zoidberg> Yeah, probably the biggest advantage would be on the http upload side only.
[14:14:38] <zoidberg> And for that only client support would be needed anyway.

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[14:16:56] <moparisthebest> I still say the biggest advantage for XMPP is never reconnecting across networks
[14:20:13] <zoidberg> But who is using fluux on their android?

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[14:21:29] <zoidberg> I can imagine someone like you dragging your notebook across the house. But most normal people i think operate their PC in a stationary position 🙂

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[14:27:23] <Licaon_Kter> > But who is using fluux on their android?
is it ready for F-Droid Mickaël ?

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[14:35:48] <Mickaël> I should do more test on Android first. Maybe I can target the next release ?
[14:36:03] <Mickaël> It would need a standalone package, right ?
[14:36:16] <Mickaël> (For now, using it with PWA)

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[14:44:51] <Licaon_Kter> You're the dev, use your magic powers

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[14:50:28] <Mickaël> > ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/Licaon_Kter wrote:
> You're the dev, use your magic powers
👍

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