ejabberd - Wednesday, June 10, 2026

[06:51:02] <raver> Would it make sense, to introduce a hosts array parameter on the listen section For the ejabberd http module?
And all the listed domains are allowed for the loaded http modules e.g mod_unified_push or oauth and or web admin
[06:51:19] <raver> Would it make sense, to introduce a hosts array parameter on the listen section For the ejabberd http module?
And all the listed domains are allowed for the loaded http modules e.g mod_unified_push or oauth or web admin

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[07:32:06] <stratself> raver: ive not used oauth so i'm not sure. neither do i know if there is another parameter
what i see in mod_unified_push is a bug imo, because one of my http upload domains isnt defined in global hosts config and still works

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[08:08:57] <raver> I mean in general I can think that any potential module that has nothing to do with xmpp but requires a host would benefit

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[15:23:05] <zeank> Suggestion #1 (unrelated to topic above): currently the `create_room` command is pretty useless unless you have `persistent = true` in your config as default. Instead we introduce a (configurable?) grace period (maybe 5 minutes) before an empty room gets cleaned up (should this apply to new rooms only or in general?).
Here's a chance to cleanup that reported issue/bug where created_at is set to 1970-01-01 (there's an AI slop PR open for that...).

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[15:24:41] <zeank> Suggestion #2: in web-admin for "create-room with options" we don't show an input line where you're supposed to enter some (cryptic) data but instead show a form with all the options, just like good clients do too.

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[15:24:53] <zeank> I could apply for funding at NLnet to get this done...
[15:25:12] <zeank> badlop, prefiks ...

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[15:34:31] <prefiks> or we can make this command always create persistent rooms
[15:34:43] <prefiks> i think we were doing that at some points

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[15:51:28] <Mickaël> > zeank wrote:
> Suggestion #1 (unrelated to topic above): currently the `create_room` command is pretty useless unless you have `persistent = true` in your config as default. Instead we introduce a (configurable?) grace period (maybe 5 minutes) before an empty room gets cleaned up (should this apply to new rooms only or in general?).
> Here's a chance to cleanup that reported issue/bug where created_at is set to 1970-01-01 (there's an AI slop PR open for that...).
For the created_at part, I think the field was reused on purpose with that « sentinel" value to avoid migration

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[15:53:15] <prefiks> yes, that fields was not used, and reusing it see when room was hibernated allowed to optimize some commands, without requiring schema change

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[16:14:31] <Mickaël> We could change it but it would be nice to sync that with other schema changes, to not force a full cluster downtime

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[16:18:17] <zeank> Yes, I'm aware there's a history regarding `created_at`, but I didn't fully understand yet, what it really is about. But there seemed to be some other use case or problem with not having it set to the correct date (or in other words it's needed elsewhere).
[16:18:57] <zeank> But yeah, maybe creating a persistent room would be the solution ... need to think about it ... as long as it's clearly documented maybe the best option?

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[16:20:09] <Mickaël> > zeank wrote:
> Yes, I'm aware there's a history regarding `created_at`, but I didn't fully understand yet, what it really is about. But there seemed to be some other use case or problem with not having it set to the correct date (or in other words it's needed elsewhere).
I guess it cause issue to people accessing the db directly ?

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[16:21:02] <prefiks> it was never used in ejabberd before i repurposed it for hibernation

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[16:37:43] <zeank> Right, reading through the tickets now and can't find any reason other than unmet expectations when looking at data

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[16:38:43] <zeank> That's the AI slop PR that Neu*stradamus keeps bugging me about https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4464

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[16:40:37] <Mickaël> Yes, he did the same to me ...

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[16:41:02] <Mickaël> I explained him, but he did not understand the reason apparently

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[16:41:49] <Holger> .oO( You note that you got too inactive when you're no longer bugged by him. )
[16:42:10] <zeank> :p

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[16:49:20] <zoidberg> I just see him being hated everywhere in the XMPP world. Honestly i dont understand all the hate(but i dont do much githubing) i believe must be a reincarnation thing. He must have done you all some terrible things in other life's. Because if it is because his githubbing i am probably even more hated in the XMPP bugging

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[16:55:26] <zoidberg> just to be clear, i am not a friend of him(not a collaborator). Just saying because well, I've seen he say "thank you" and being banned.

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[16:58:38] <Mickaël> I think the problem is that he tends to assign works to volunteers, that are independant from the person priorities and he pings and revives tickets all the time making it more difficult to sort them, work on them, etc

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[16:59:13] <Mickaël> He is not a bad person, but he does not take into account the reality of open source software development )

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[16:59:49] <prefiks> and the worst was for me was always, "couldn't you comment in some unrelated project ticket, and tell them they should focus on this thing"

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