ejabberd - Friday, May 29, 2026

[04:50:26] <stratself> > Hi. I've seen a lot of users experience Schrödinger's Chat (disconnection from MUC which is not reflected in their client, although they don't appear to be present in the MUC for other users) on MUC servers running ejabberd. Is there anything MUC server operators can do about this?
did you enable stream management?

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[05:45:22] <contrapunctus> stratself: I'll ask the server operators. Is there anything else they can check? Also, does stream management help in case of MUC server restarts? 🤔

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[05:45:34] <contrapunctus> stratself: Thanks, I'll ask the server operators about that. Is there anything else they can check? Also, does stream management help in case of MUC server restarts? 🤔

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[05:48:08] <stratself> contrapunctus: oh wait nvm. ejabberd doesnt have s2s stream management yet, and no it doesnt persist across restarts. you might wanna check out mod_ping

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[06:56:46] <zoidberg> Isn't stream management purpose to save mobile devices battery?

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[06:57:16] <zoidberg> Having it on server 2 server doesn't seem a good idea.

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[08:00:20] <stratself> purpose is to acknowledge stanza deliveries and resume connections. if anything it costs more bandwidth
[08:01:45] <stratself> purpose is to acknowledge stanza deliveries and resume connections. if anything it costs more bandwidth but offers stability

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[08:03:54] <stratself> s2s is actually a pretty good deal, you can't assume s2s conns are stable. imagine one blocking outbound s2s connections and sending messages to a MUC - that message wont get delivered but wont error out either. stream management could help actually forcing an error iirc

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[08:04:04] <stratself> s2s stream mgmt is actually a pretty good deal, you can't assume s2s conns are stable. imagine one blocking outbound s2s connections and sending messages to a MUC - that message wont get delivered but wont error out either. stream management could help actually forcing an error iirc

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[08:06:04] <stratself> also see https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/4277

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[14:43:33] <moparisthebest> I don't think stream management actually helps with the reported client bug though

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