ejabberd - Thursday, March 19, 2026

[00:24:36] <ksa> Can I use a cheaper storage for user media uploaded via mod_http_upload? Something like AWS S3. These freaking vps storage prices are insane.

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[00:48:31] <Kris> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/tree/master/mod_s3_upload

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[08:46:23] <Licaon_Kter> ejabberd versions keep comming but still no xep-0363 purpose? Holger

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[11:04:29] <zeank> I wonder - while we're at it - if we shouldn't take the opportunity and by default enable sqlite3 for `mod_mam` here:
https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4550
[11:05:42] <stratself> i'd wager it's best to enable sqlite3 for everything, so nobody would run into the 2GB issue

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[11:10:29] <zeank> Yeah, maybe, problem is: the config needs an absolute path to the database file, and what's the best place varies. Or should it just be `/opt/ejabberd/database/ejabberd-data.sqlite` or something like that?

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[11:13:14] <Mickaël> sqlite availability depends on the build, right ?
[11:13:31] <prefiks> if we switch to sqlite, it would also need to have mention that this doesn't work in cluster
[11:13:36] <eltheanine_> Prob `/var/lib/ejabberd`/ as some packagers like to put stuff in /etc .... mm true
[11:13:40] <Mickaël> I mean can we always be sure we have it available ?
[11:15:41] <raver> zeank: with ejabberd `26.2.100`
I could happily remove jQuery and bootstrap4 from my main web server, it's now successfully served from within ejabberd thank you 😊✌️💪

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[11:23:27] <zeank> > I mean can we always be sure we have it available ?
For people who compile themselves, no, they might not have sqlite3 compiled in

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[11:24:20] <zeank> But then, this is just an example config... 🤷‍♂️
On the other hand, I guess, `make install` copies it to $prefix/etc/ejabberd.yml`, doesn't it?
[11:24:57] <badlop> default configuration stores mam in mnesia, which is problematic for long-term servers and big servers, so quite probably that includes many ejabberd deployments (maybe most deployments?)

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[11:25:14] <badlop> but the default configuration is the *first* one an admin sees, not the last one

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[11:25:38] <badlop> and being the first one, it should be as clean as possible, and require as few additinal steps as possible (hopefully not more requirments at all)
[11:26:17] <badlop> if the default configuration silently adds another requirement to run it, then it should be mentioned somewhere, like
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/install/source/#requirements
[11:26:32] <badlop> the obvious solution is to disable MAM by default, let ejabberd start quickly with the default configuration,
[11:26:45] <badlop> and later if the admin really wants the MAM feature, he can *decide* which storage to use, instead of requiring sqlite3 (or any other dependency) by default

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[11:28:39] <zeank> Well, I think a default configuration should do the right thing for most typical use cases and especially support those who are new to the system to not make any mistakes. To omit mam would be quite the opposite with this approach.
Also I think sqlite is just a dependency if you want to compile ejabberd yourself. It's already compiled in with our binary installers as well as the docker image.

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[11:29:40] <zeank> What you describe is more like a minimal configuration which leaves a lot of work to figure out to the common server admin in spe.

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[11:30:02] <zeank> And a lot of questions to answer for us in this channel here
[11:31:15] <zeank> Also I differentiating factor to prosody

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[11:42:12] <Holger> - Our example configuration is tailored towards the typical instant messaging use case.  I think that makes sense, as that's most probably what, like, 90% of the people are doing with ejabberd; and the remaining crowd should be fine with tweaking configs.
- Our example configuration is meant to be useful out of the box, as opposed to expecting admins to tweak things first.
- An instant messaging service without MAM is basically unusable these days.  So I'd definitely not agree with removing that from the example config.
- Mnesia is is basically unusable these days.  So I'd fully agree with switching the default.

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[11:45:30] <Holger> If I understood it correctly, there's two issues with SQLite as default:
- Doesn't work with clustering. I'd consider the latter an advanced use case that requires way more from admins than changing the `default_db` setting. So personally I'd say this issue should be documented properly, and that's it.
- Unlike with Mnesia, SQLite support is optional. That's just the same problem basically all projects have that support different SQL backends. We should figure out how to handle it, but IMHO, we should definitely not use this as a show-stopper for replacing the broken default (Mnesia) with a usable one (SQLite).

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[11:47:14] <Holger> All that said I'd personally opt for switching the `default_db` rather than just MAM specifically, as stratself said. Mnesia also tends to bork PubSub tables, for example. But my main point would be "keep it simple". If we enable it for a single module we already depend on SQLite and can just as well use it as the global default.

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[11:51:53] <zeank> Yeah, agreed, enabling sqlite for just one module is just asking for headaches. Some information stored here, some there...

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[12:10:04] <Kris> > If I understood it correctly, there's two issues with SQLite as default:
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[13:01:22] <zoidberg> hey Kris, your notification is broken

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[13:01:35] <zoidberg> hey Kris, your reaction is broken

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[13:01:50] <zoidberg> i am seeing it as an actual reaction.

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[13:02:06] <Kris> Works here on Monocles
[13:02:09] <zoidberg> used to see as a quote
[13:02:29] <zoidberg> can you react again V
[13:02:33] <dwd> Works here, too; shows as a normal thumbs-up emoji reaction.
[13:02:36] <Kris> > can you react again V
👍
[13:02:39] <zoidberg> waw
[13:02:45] <zoidberg> the war is over?
[13:02:50] <dwd> "here" being Wimsy.

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[13:03:34] <Mickaël> > ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/zoidberg wrote:
> the war is over?
👍
[13:03:43] <Kris> Why do you say it is broken when it is working as intended now?

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[13:03:56] <zoidberg> got used to it...
[13:03:59] <Kris> Sounds more like it was fixed?

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[13:04:27] <dwd> Someone broke the bug so now it's fixed?

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[13:05:28] <Kris> I somewhat recently switched from Cheogram to Monocles (because it has feeds and stories now). So that might also be the reason.
[13:05:51] <dwd> Feeds and stories? Sounds a bit too youth for me. :-)
[13:06:58] <zoidberg> ah that must be it then. 👍

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[13:08:13] <zeank> Should we enable `mod_host_meta` by default? Doesn't look like it could do any harm and maybe saves some headaches?

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[13:11:14] <zeank> Holger: https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/modules/#mod_scram_upgrade

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[13:12:50] <Holger> What about that? (BTW does it work today? It was broken initially but I'm in a meeting and forgot the details.)

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[13:13:35] <Holger> Something about re-suggesting the upgrade on every login or so, I think there's at least one ticket.

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[13:14:30] <zeank> Well, ok, never mind. If we have all three anyway there’s no need to upgrade. Brain fart.

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[13:40:07] <ksa> Guys why does my server drop connection and the client always reconnects several times?

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[13:40:40] <ksa> While this happens, conversations and it's forks show policy violation.

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[13:41:06] <ksa> Is there a timeout setting or something I may be able to change?
[13:41:08] <dwd> ksa, Interesting. On mobile, desktop, or everything? Only time I've ever seen this in the wild (on any server) is where either there's aggressive NAT or a badly configured load balancer.
[13:41:47] <ksa> Everything, every device. Though only on accounts where I've joined like more than 15 mucs

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[13:43:08] <dwd> ksa, Anything in the crash log?
[13:43:16] <ksa> Lemme check

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[13:43:33] <ksa> > ksa, Anything in the crash log?
The ejabberd.log right?
[13:44:06] <dwd> I don't actually run ejabberd. But ordinarily there's an ejabberd.log and perhaps a crash.log I think. Otherwise, look in the ejabberd.log for crashes.

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[13:58:27] <zeank> It’s called error.log now.

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[14:07:27] <ksa> I think it's my sql that's bugging out

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[14:11:33] <ksa> It says in error.log that sql transaction restarts exceeded, severe error. Apparently this is happening coz of violating null constraint in a table.

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[14:12:19] <ksa> Could this be the thing leading to policy violation errors and constant reconnects?

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[14:12:32] <zeank> Can you post the whole log message?
[14:12:40] <ksa> The whole file?

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[14:13:01] <zeank> No. Just the ones you think are suspicious.
[14:13:09] <ksa> Ok 1 min

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[14:20:21] <zeank> Policy violation can have different causes but a likely one is coming from mod_antispam (since I know you played around with it)

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[14:27:53] <ksa> 2026-03-19 14:21:31.911231+00:00 [error] <0.573.0>@ejabberd_sql:check_error/2:1470 SQL query 'Q81471518' at {mod_roster_sql,{287,9}} failed: [{severity,'ERROR'},
                                                           {86,<<"ERROR">>},
                                                           {code,<<"23502">>},
                                                           {message,
                                                            <<"null value in column \"approved\" of relation \"rosterusers\" violates not-null constraint">>},
                                                           {detail,
                                                            <<"Failing row contains (wollfn, frmn@zloy.im, , N, null, O, , N, , item, 2026-03-19 14:21:31.903184).">>},
                                                           {115,<<"public">>},
                                                           {116,
                                                            <<"rosterusers">>},
                                                           {99,<<"approved">>},
                                                           {file,
                                                            <<"execMain.c">>},
                                                           {line,2022},
                                                           {routine,
                                                            <<"ExecConstraints">>}]
2026-03-19 14:21:31.912798+00:00 [error] <0.573.0>@ejabberd_sql:outer_transaction/3:646 SQL transaction restarts exceeded
** Restarts: 10
** Last abort reason: [{severity,'ERROR'},
                       {86,<<"ERROR">>},
                       {code,<<"23502">>},
                       {message,<<"null value in column \"approved\" of relation \"rosterusers\" violates not-null constraint">>},
                       {detail,<<"Failing row contains (wollfn, frmn@zloy.im, , N, null, O, , N, , item, 2026-03-19 14:21:31.903184).">>},
                       {115,<<"public">>},
                       {116,<<"rosterusers">>},
                       {99,<<"approved">>},
                       {file,<<"execMain.c">>},
                       {line,2022},
                       {routine,<<"ExecConstraints">>}]
[14:28:20] <ksa> I think the users table is doing something fishy
[14:28:56] <ksa> > Policy violation can have different causes but a likely one is coming from mod_antispam (since I know you played around with it)
Policy violation errors came up for me before setting up mod_antispam
[14:28:58] <zeank> Which version are you running? Can it be that you did a downgrade at some point?
[14:29:09] <ksa> Nope, 26.2

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[14:29:15] <ksa> The latest

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[14:29:49] <zeank> Can you post the whole stacktrace please?
[14:30:12] <ksa> The whole error file?

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[14:32:07] <zeank> No, the log message from above is cut off, isn’t there more to it?

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[14:33:16] <ksa> > No, the log message from above is cut off, isn’t there more to it?
2026-03-19 14:21:31.911231+00:00 [error] <0.573.0>@ejabberd_sql:check_error/2:1470 SQL query 'Q81471518' at {mod_roster_sql,{287,9}} failed: [{severity,'ERROR'},
                                                           {86,<<"ERROR">>},
                                                           {code,<<"23502">>},
                                                           {message,
                                                            <<"null value in column \"approved\" of relation \"rosterusers\" violates not-null constraint">>},
                                                           {detail,
                                                            <<"Failing row contains (wollfn, frmn@zloy.im, , N, null, O, , N, , item, 2026-03-19 14:21:31.903184).">>},
                                                           {115,<<"public">>},
                                                           {116,
                                                            <<"rosterusers">>},
                                                           {99,<<"approved">>},
                                                           {file,
                                                            <<"execMain.c">>},
                                                           {line,2022},
                                                           {routine,
                                                            <<"ExecConstraints">>}]
2026-03-19 14:21:31.912798+00:00 [error] <0.573.0>@ejabberd_sql:outer_transaction/3:646 SQL transaction restarts exceeded
** Restarts: 10
** Last abort reason: [{severity,'ERROR'},
                       {86,<<"ERROR">>},
                       {code,<<"23502">>},
                       {message,<<"null value in column \"approved\" of relation \"rosterusers\" violates not-null constraint">>},
                       {detail,<<"Failing row contains (wollfn, frmn@zloy.im, , N, null, O, , N, , item, 2026-03-19 14:21:31.903184).">>},
                       {115,<<"public">>},
                       {116,<<"rosterusers">>},
                       {99,<<"approved">>},
                       {file,<<"execMain.c">>},
                       {line,2022},
                       {routine,<<"ExecConstraints">>}]
** Stacktrace: [{ejabberd_sql,restart,1,
                              [{file,"src/ejabberd_sql.erl"},{line,238}]},
                {mod_roster,'-process_subscription/7-fun-0-',7,
                            [{file,"src/mod_roster.erl"},{line,606}]},
                {ejabberd_sql,outer_transaction,3,
                              [{file,"src/ejabberd_sql.erl"},{line,634}]},
                {ejabberd_sql,run_sql_cmd,4,
                              [{file,"src/ejabberd_sql.erl"},{line,571}]},
                {p1_fsm,handle_msg,10,
                        [{file,"/home/runner/work/ejabberd/ejabberd/deps/p1_utils/src/p1_fsm.erl"},
                         {line,582}]},
                {proc_lib,init_p_do_apply,3,
                          [{file,"proc_lib.erl"},{line,333}]}]
** When State == {state,<0.586.0>,pgsql,170009,0,<<"avesdrop.com">>,
                        {{[],[]},0,unlimited},
                        undefined,60000}
[14:33:43] <zeank> This „[…]“ is where it ends?

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[14:34:21] <zeank> Never mind, my client tricked me

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[14:34:45] <ksa> The error.log file is constantly generating new lines, so idk where to stop sending the data.
[14:34:51] <ksa> > Never mind, my client tricked me
Oh cool

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[14:40:56] <ksa> I can see policy violation spelt out several times in ejabberd.log
[14:41:02] <zeank> Ah, yeah, but wait, your schema is from master, the "approved" column will only ship with 26.03

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[14:42:00] <ksa> Mine's 26.2.0
[14:42:13] <ksa> > Ah, yeah, but wait, your schema is from master, the "approved" column will only ship with 26.03
So is this the problem?
[14:42:33] <zeank> Yes, and that's why you see those crashes. For some reason the DB schema you are using is from the upcoming version (probably taken from current master)

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[14:43:17] <ksa> Guess the cleanest way is to start all over

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[14:43:55] <ksa> Or is there another easier way?
[14:44:02] <zoidberg> Go to master?
[14:44:25] <zoidberg> Check if there is any builds on github actions(you have to login)
[14:44:27] <zeank> You can remove the column now and then when you upgrade to 26.03 you add it again:
Log into your DB and do
```sql
ALTER TABLE `rosterusers` DROP COLUMN `approved`;
```
and then
```sql
ALTER TABLE `rosterusers` ADD COLUMN `approved` boolean NOT NULL AFTER `subscription`;
```

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[14:45:07] <ksa> K lemme try
[14:45:18] <zoidberg> Yep, better to do what zeank  says, 👆👆
[14:45:20] <zeank> > I can see policy violation spelt out several times in ejabberd.log
Can you post the full log message for those too please?
[14:45:28] <ksa> Sure
[14:46:53] <ksa> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115313+00:00 [info] <0.5626.0>@mod_antispam_filter:reject/1:274 Rejecting unsolicited message from cigar_support@exploit.im/xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3 to programistkar@avesdrop.com
2026-03-19 14:44:04.115435+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_hooks:safe_apply/4:451 Running hook spam_stanza_rejected: mod_antispam_dump:dump_spam_stanza/1
2026-03-19 14:44:04.115820+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_router:do_route/1:385 Route:
#message{
    id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
    from =
        #jid{
            user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
            resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
            lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
    to =
        #jid{
            user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
            resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
            luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
            lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
    subject = [],
    body =
        [#text{
             lang = <<>>,
             data =
                 <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
    thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
    sub_els =
        [#xmlel{
             name = <<"private">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
             children = []},
         #xmlel{
             name = <<"no-store">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
             children = []},
         #xmlel{
             name = <<"markable">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
             children = []},
         #stanza_error{
             type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
             text =
                 [#text{
                      lang = <<"en">>,
                      data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
             sub_els = []}],
    meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
2026-03-19 14:44:04.116411+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_s2s:route/1:329 Local route:
#message{
    id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
    from =
        #jid{
            user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
            resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
            lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
    to =
        #jid{
            user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
            resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
            luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
            lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
    subject = [],
    body =
        [#text{
             lang = <<>>,
             data =
                 <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
    thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
    sub_els =
        [#xmlel{
             name = <<"private">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
             children = []},
         #xmlel{
             name = <<"no-store">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
             children = []},
         #xmlel{
             name = <<"markable">>,
             attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
             children = []},
         #stanza_error{
             type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
             text =
                 [#text{
                      lang = <<"en">>,
                      data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
             sub_els = []}],
    meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
[14:47:12] <zeank> Hope I was clear enough, this you do once you've upgraded and not now:
```sql
ALTER TABLE `rosterusers` ADD COLUMN `approved` boolean NOT NULL AFTER `subscription`;
```
[14:47:17] <ksa> > 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115313+00:00 [info] <0.5626.0>@mod_antispam_filter:reject/1:274 Rejecting unsolicited message from cigar_support@exploit.im/xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3 to programistkar@avesdrop.com
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115435+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_hooks:safe_apply/4:451 Running hook spam_stanza_rejected: mod_antispam_dump:dump_spam_stanza/1
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115820+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_router:do_route/1:385 Route:
> #message{
> id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
> from =
> #jid{
> user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
> resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
> lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
> to =
> #jid{
> user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
> resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
> luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
> lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
> subject = [],
> body =
> [#text{
> lang = <<>>,
> data =
> <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
> thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
> sub_els =
> [#xmlel{
> name = <<"private">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
> children = []},
> #xmlel{
> name = <<"no-store">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
> children = []},
> #xmlel{
> name = <<"markable">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
> children = []},
> #stanza_error{
> type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
> text =
> [#text{
> lang = <<"en">>,
> data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
> sub_els = []}],
> meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.116411+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_s2s:route/1:329 Local route:
> #message{
> id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
> from =
> #jid{
> user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
> resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
> lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
> to =
> #jid{
> user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
> resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
> luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
> lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
> subject = [],
> body =
> [#text{
> lang = <<>>,
> data =
> <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
> thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
> sub_els =
> [#xmlel{
> name = <<"private">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
> children = []},
> #xmlel{
> name = <<"no-store">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
> children = []},
> #xmlel{
> name = <<"markable">>,
> attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
> children = []},
> #stanza_error{
> type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
> text =
> [#text{
> lang = <<"en">>,
> data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
> sub_els = []}],
> meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
This is from ejabberd.log

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[14:47:42] <ksa> > Hope I was clear enough, this you do once you've upgraded and not now:
>
> ```sql
> ALTER TABLE `rosterusers` ADD COLUMN `approved` boolean NOT NULL AFTER `subscription`;
> ```
Yes, u were very clear

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[14:48:43] <zeank> > 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115313+00:00 [info] <0.5626.0>@mod_antispam_filter:reject/1:274 Rejecting unsolicited message from cigar_support@exploit.im/xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3 to programistkar@avesdrop.com
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115435+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_hooks:safe_apply/4:451 Running hook spam_stanza_rejected: mod_antispam_dump:dump_spam_stanza/1
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.115820+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_router:do_route/1:385 Route:
> #message{
>     id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
>     from =
>         #jid{
>             user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
>             resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
>             lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
>     to =
>         #jid{
>             user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
>             resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
>             luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
>             lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
>     subject = [],
>     body =
>         [#text{
>              lang = <<>>,
>              data =
>                  <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
>     thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
>     sub_els =
>         [#xmlel{
>              name = <<"private">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #xmlel{
>              name = <<"no-store">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #xmlel{
>              name = <<"markable">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #stanza_error{
>              type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
>              text =
>                  [#text{
>                       lang = <<"en">>,
>                       data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
>              sub_els = []}],
>     meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
> 2026-03-19 14:44:04.116411+00:00 [debug] <0.5626.0>@ejabberd_s2s:route/1:329 Local route:
> #message{
>     id = <<"NH8qi-96627">>,type = error,lang = <<"en">>,
>     from =
>         #jid{
>             user = <<"programistkar">>,server = <<"avesdrop.com">>,
>             resource = <<>>,luser = <<"programistkar">>,
>             lserver = <<"avesdrop.com">>,lresource = <<>>},
>     to =
>         #jid{
>             user = <<"cigar_support">>,server = <<"exploit.im">>,
>             resource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>,
>             luser = <<"cigar_support">>,lserver = <<"exploit.im">>,
>             lresource = <<"xabber-android-2Gm1FEZ3">>},
>     subject = [],
>     body =
>         [#text{
>              lang = <<>>,
>              data =
>                  <<"This user has limited receiving messages from not-authorized users">>}],
>     thread = #message_thread{parent = <<>>,data = <<"JxQ98lV0k32H">>},
>     sub_els =
>         [#xmlel{
>              name = <<"private">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:carbons:2">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #xmlel{
>              name = <<"no-store">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:hints">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #xmlel{
>              name = <<"markable">>,
>              attrs = [{<<"xmlns">>,<<"urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0">>}],
>              children = []},
>          #stanza_error{
>              type = modify,by = undefined,reason = 'policy-violation',
>              text =
>                  [#text{
>                       lang = <<"en">>,
>                       data = <<"Your message is unsolicited">>}],
>              sub_els = []}],
>     meta = #{ip => {0,0,0,0,0,65535,22823,38320}}}
This is expected, spam filter found a potential source of SPAM
[14:48:47] <zoidberg> these logs looks good, some user blocked other user and is not receiving msgs from the one sending
[14:49:14] <zeank> `exploit.im` is one of the blocked domains

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[14:52:17] <zeank> You can do
```sh
ejabberdctl get_blocked_domains <your.domain>
```
to get the active list of blocked domains.

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[14:52:28] <ksa> > these logs looks good, some user blocked other user and is not receiving msgs from the one sending
👍
[14:53:05] <ksa> Sadly, even after your sql cmd, the problem persists.
[14:53:18] <ksa> Lemme check the error.log again
[14:53:22] <Licaon_Kter> At least don't quote the long pastes.... zeank
[14:53:26] <zeank> You can do
```sh
ejabberdctl get_spam_filter_cache <your.domain>
```
to get the list of blocked users (if you're using some sort of filter)

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[14:53:55] <zeank> > At least don't quote the long pastes.... zeank
Sorry 😅
[14:53:56] <ksa> > Sadly, even after your sql cmd, the problem persists.
Although, seems a lot better now, not many reconnects

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[14:54:50] <zeank> You mean you still see reconnects or you still get those crashes about sql null constraints?

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[14:58:48] <ksa> Well, not actually. The problem is still as it was before sadly. I think it's best I start over

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[15:00:09] <ksa> It'd be a better use of everyone's time

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[15:01:04] <ksa> This sql debacle started after I migrated from mnesia to postgres. I'll start with postgres from the get go this time.

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[15:02:45] <ksa> It's curious tho that this doesn't happen to users on my server with less mucs
[15:02:56] <ksa> Like less mucs joined
[15:03:17] <ksa> Idk why, their connection stays consistent.

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[15:03:31] <zoidberg> We can them mucless

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[15:03:51] <ksa> What?

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[15:04:12] <zoidberg> Forget it... you are not my crowd for jokes.
[15:04:56] <ksa> https://avesdrop.com:5443/upload/3d358a32d9e5f95da236b8585d3259020ab4632e/5vdHEDEGmcNkoM5AyLVKSDZOhFakpwGFdfnGfkKV/zb2rhkRbpoBsAYyTTTxJoqs4ZhECsd74pp4pAdLPs8UoP7NCT.png

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[15:06:57] <zoidberg> Nope, not me.

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[15:56:13] <stratself> general question: can i as a MUC owner/admin/mod see whispers between participants?
[15:58:20] <zoidberg> I always assumed so, but would also like to know for fore(of course i could test it myself) but ...

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[15:58:57] <zoidberg> I always assumed so, but would also like to know for sure(of course i could test it myself) but ...
[15:59:01] <stratself> it's stored in the same MAM i hope

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[15:59:38] <zoidberg> Definitely

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[17:20:44] <ksa> What's better the ejabberd from apt or .deb package?

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[17:22:06] <Licaon_Kter> what's the difference between apt from ejabberd repo and .deb from ejabberd repo? :)

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[17:24:08] <ksa> I mean is updating when a new version comes out easier in .deb or the apt version?

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[17:32:31] <zeank> Debian updates only if the whole distribution sees an update. Means you’d be stuck with a very old version.

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[17:33:50] <ksa> .deb package it is with wget then

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[17:34:16] <Licaon_Kter> ksa: I've asked a specific question for a reason. As you appear to mix "deb downloaded from ejabberd website" with "apt get from debian org" and "apt get from ejabberd"

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[18:05:46] <ksa> > Ah, yeah, but wait, your schema is from master, the "approved" column will only ship with 26.03
So I don't use this cmd for downloading schema?
su -c "curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/processone/ejabberd/master/sql/pg.sql | psql ejabberd" postgres

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[18:07:05] <ksa> I should use what for ejabberd_26.02-1_amd64.deb?
[18:07:10] <zeank> Don‘t do that

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[18:07:46] <zeank> The schema will be created automatically anyway. No need to do that manually anymore.

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[18:08:14] <ksa> Please provide correct link

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[18:08:52] <ksa> > The schema will be created automatically anyway. No need to do that manually anymore.
How?

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[18:11:36] <ksa> > The schema will be created automatically anyway. No need to do that manually anymore.
I just created a new database, there ain't no tables in it

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[18:35:05] <zeank> Did you start ejabberd?

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[18:40:31] <Mickaël> > ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/zeank wrote:
> Did you start ejabberd?
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