Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, February 21, 2018< ^ >
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[01:09:48] <mrDoctorWho> > Hehe yes.  From what I know there was some motivation within Google to drive the industry into XMPP.
There was some xmpp stuff a few years ago
[01:10:22] <mrDoctorWho> Iirc it was push over xmpp
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[01:13:55] <Holger> I meant the old GTalk times.
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[01:16:25] <mrDoctorWho> Yeah, that...
[01:16:32] <mrDoctorWho> Anyways, here's a proof of my words https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/ccs
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[01:21:52] <mrDoctorWho> Oh well, they put json in XML
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[08:07:41] <Holger> Yes they offer XMPP s2s access as an alternative to HTTP in case you want to keep a persistent connection.  The JSON payload is the same.  They still support this for FCM by the way.
[08:09:17] <zinid> probably will be killed soon
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[08:13:00] <mrDoctorWho> I don't think so. It's not a thing you can kill right away. For example they still maintain GCM even though they want everyone to use FCM
[08:16:42] <zinid> ah, backward compatibility
[08:16:49] <zinid> with old phones
[08:16:52] <zinid> yes, makes sense
[08:17:57] <mrDoctorWho> AFAIK phones don't know anything about xmpp or even http
[08:18:16] <mrDoctorWho> they just get some JSON from google services
[08:18:52] <zinid> then doesn't make sense šŸ˜‰
[08:20:00] <mrDoctorWho> probably no one wants to update their servers
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[08:23:04] <ThUnD3r|Gr33nĀ®> Morning
[08:24:26] <SouL> o/
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[08:46:35] <Holger> zinid: There's no alternative yet if you want to keep a persistent connection to their FCM API.
[08:47:00] <zinid> there is no long-polling on their HTTP API?
[08:47:24] <Holger> Nope.
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[08:53:57] <mrDoctorWho> who needs longpoll when you have websockets!
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[09:24:05] <flow> does ejabberd support xep133?
[09:24:39] <flow> in particular add and remove user (https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0133.html#add-user)
[09:27:26] <flow> hmm it appears to be hidden in mod_configure
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[11:52:41] <zuglufttier> How does one configure a contact address in ejabberd?
[11:54:29] <Holger> zuglufttier: https://userpage.fu-berlin.de/holger/archive/ejabberd-example.yml --> mod_disco
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[12:02:55] <zinid> Holger, mod_sic?
[12:02:55] <zinid> but why?
[12:06:13] <Holger> Dunno does it hurt?
[12:06:23] <Holger> I enable everything that doesn't hurt :-)
[12:06:58] <Holger> But I don't care about that module at all.
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[12:10:14] <zinid> I have a plan to remove this module šŸ™‚
[12:10:44] <Holger> Fine with me :-)
[12:11:11] <Holger> Ditched it from that example config.
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[12:15:51] <zuglufttier> Holger: Thank you, once again ;)
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[13:42:28] <Holger> zinid:
> Holger, what is "an industry standard XMPP chat server"? what are they using?
ejabberd of course:
https://twitter.com/CCP_Explorer/status/966305975643922432
https://github.com/ccpgames/ejabberd
[13:43:21] <zinid> \m/
[13:46:30] <zinid> so obvious
[13:46:34] <zinid> šŸ˜€
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[13:59:00] <zinid> Holger, do we really need stream management log messages to be on level=4?
[13:59:19] <zinid> Holger, I'm thinking of lowering it to debug, any objections?
[14:00:21] <Holger> Hmm.
[14:01:36] <Holger> Being able to track when JIDs went on- and offline does help me sometimes.
[14:01:58] <Holger> The "Stream management enabled" messages should be debug messages.
[14:02:28] <zinid> ok
[14:02:30] <Holger> Most others are sometimes useful to me.
[14:02:36] <Holger> You'd ditch all of them?
[14:02:37] <zinid> I will lower that one only
[14:02:52] <zinid> no, but stream management enabled is a bit annoying
[14:02:59] <Holger> Yeah that's nonsense.
[14:03:19] <zinid> as well as "closing former stream "
[14:03:32] <Holger> Exactly, that's the other one I'm checking right now.
[14:03:51] <zinid> ok, I'll move them to debug
[14:04:31] <zinid> ?INFO_MSG("Cannot resume session for ~s@~s: ~s",
[14:04:38] <zinid> shouldn't it be warning?
[14:05:05] <Holger> (Yes "closing former stream" can go away as well.)
[14:05:35] <Holger> "Cannot resume session" can be perfectly normal, I think that's just INFO.
[14:05:52] <zinid> ok
[14:06:02] <Holger> Maybe even debug actually :-)
[14:06:08] <Holger> Give me a minute.
[14:06:33] <zinid> I'm also moving to debug "Accepted connection" in ejabberd_listener.erl and "carbons enabled/disabled" in mod_carboncopy.erl
[14:06:59] <Holger> I agree with the latter, not sure about "Accepted connection".
[14:07:09] <Holger> That often helps me as well.
[14:07:42] <zinid> I have a lot of "Accepted connection" from port scanners, this is annoying
[14:07:46] <Holger> Hrm.
[14:08:25] <Holger> When some other admin tells me his server can't connect to mine, the first thing I grep for usually is his IP address.
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[14:08:44] <zinid> https://gist.github.com/zinid/ca5cdeb66b11340c4c2e6c57576d8ae2
[14:09:23] <Holger> Teach fail2ban to auto-create an IPTables rule :-)
[14:09:30] <Holger> That's actually another good reason to keep those messages.
[14:09:54] <zinid> ok
[14:13:09] <zinid> pushed
[14:14:46] <Holger> Thanks for letting me persuade you to keep the other messages ;-)
[14:16:11] <zinid> šŸ˜‰
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[14:36:51] <zinid> Holger, https://prosody.im/issues/1006
[14:36:55] <zinid> Holger, sounds like a fixed issue now?
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[14:48:35] <Holger> zinid: Ah, wasn't aware. Sounds good.
[14:49:18] <zinid> yup
[14:49:40] <Holger> Despite talking this through with Zash over and over again, this is the first time I'm reading the reason for removing the fallback was ejabberd.
[14:49:49] <Holger> Whatever.
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[15:28:21] <zinid> Holger, do you have chatlogs enabled on conversations.im?
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[15:28:41] <zinid> more particularly, for the conversations room
[15:28:45] <Holger> HTML-Logs for Rooms? No.
[15:28:50] <Holger> Nope.
[15:28:57] <Holger> Just MAM ...
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[15:30:01] <zinid> ok
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[16:23:11] <vanitasvitae> zinid, regarding mod_block_strangers and whitelists. Can I whitelist domains? (like conference.server.tld?)
[16:23:25] <vanitasvitae> or do I have to whitelist single mucs?
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[16:25:14] <zinid> vanitasvitae: yes you can
[16:25:27] <vanitasvitae> I never used ACLs before
[16:26:13] <zinid> Ah, well, I think there are examples in ejabberd.yml.example
[16:26:40] <vanitasvitae> can I do
mod_block_strangers_whitelist:
  users:
    - "user@server.tld"
    - ...
  servers:
    - "server.tld"
    - "conference.other.tld"
?
[16:26:52] <vanitasvitae> I'm not sure where I can choose own names and where not šŸ˜€
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[16:35:46] <zinid> Sorry, I'm AFK, it's quite painful to write yaml from mobile šŸ˜²
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[18:24:56] <flow> ejabberd returns payload-required when trying to publish an empty id-only item, even though the node has set deliver_payloads to false
[18:25:05] <flow> is that a known problem?
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[18:40:25] <zinid> hard to say
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[22:08:45] <edhelas> I have some users that are not spamming, but using their account at high level
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[22:09:29] <edhelas> I'd like to know if it would be possible to block temporary the account for a while, for example letting them login, but cannot post a message
[22:09:38] <edhelas> like you have on some forums
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