ejabberd - Friday, March 9, 2018

ejabberd

Friday, March 9, 2018< ^ >

zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im

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[07:01:15] <flow> In which cases does ejabbered mod_push issue a push?
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[07:11:09] <Holger> flow: All push clients are notified of an offline message, disconnected clients are notified of a MAM message, clients with a pending SM session are notified of any stanza added to the SM queue (not of those queued by CSI).
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[07:33:09] <flow> Holger, how do MUC messages fit into the picture? It appears your ejabberd does not send push on MUC messages (I was told).
[07:34:29] <Holger> flow: The hack to make standard 0045 work is to keep the pending SM alive until a notification is generated (mod_push_keepalive).
[07:36:04] <Holger> flow: As an alternative, ejabberd has the non-standard MUC/Sub which generates PubSub notifications for room members who are currently not joined.
[07:37:50] <Holger> But if the client doesn't support MUC/Sub and closes the stream before disconnecting, then no MUC notifications are generated, of course.
[07:38:23] <Holger> Or if mod_push_keepalive isn't enabled.
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[08:27:22] <Thorsten> Morning
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[08:29:20] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Holger: testing chat secure as my sister will come for visit ..then in want to install it for her ..seems much better now
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[08:30:01] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> But seems like chat secure still has some problems with rooms with huge amount of users ..
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[08:44:03] <Holger> ThUnD3r|Gr33n®: Some weeks ago, MUC was completely broken, no matter how small the room.
[08:44:25] <Holger> If it works for small group chat now that's good.
[08:45:53] <Holger> Then I still need that add that mod_push hack to generate reliable "New Message!" notifications and then it's almost usable.
[08:48:01] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Yeah
[08:48:46] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Well muc works... I can even use omemo
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[08:57:37] <Holger> In MUCs?
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[09:09:43] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Holger: yeah
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[09:11:08] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> But chat secure offers omemo without the complicated requirements like conversation u can enable it but as long as the room is not set to de-anonymous and not moderated.. Your messages won't be received😂 this is just for omemo muc chat secure and conversation.. Dunno how much omemo works only between chatsecure
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[09:22:38] <Holger> Awesome technology.
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[16:18:58] <Holger> FWIW, here's a module to reject publication of OMEMO keys (no that OMEMO is enabled by default in the Conversations beta): https://gist.github.com/weiss/f90df2710087b60daff80cca3cf5d8f4
[16:19:45] <Holger> Right now it just uses an ACL to determine whether the user wants that. Could use an ad-hoc command or something, but database meh ...
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[16:33:56] <zinid> I will just disable PEP 🙂
[16:34:27] <Holger> But AVATARS!!!
[16:34:38] <zinid> ah shit
[16:34:42] <zinid> forgot about them
[16:34:50] <Holger> Heh.
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[16:35:12] <Holger> I can sell you my module.
[16:35:21] <zinid> Holger, convince Daniel to include configuration option to disable OMEMO
[16:35:48] <Holger> I asked for such an extert option in Brussels, his response was like "hmmm meh" ...
[16:35:59] <Holger> *expert
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[16:37:16] <Holger> Conversations now insists on OMEMO even if the peer doesn't publish keys, so users are thrown into an error dialog :-/
[16:45:42] <zinid> this doesn't sound like a marketing stuff
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[16:51:48] <Holger> Well I get that E2EE doesn't help against a MITM if you don't insist on it. Marketing will have no good response to that criticism.
[16:51:48] <Holger> I don't get what's wrong with an expert option.
[16:54:04] <zinid> yeah, that sounds strange
[16:54:36] <Holger> Personally I find all this quite annoying TBH. We put lots of work (and hacks) into making stuff reliable just to have E2EE break it again.
[16:54:59] <zinid> yes, I know
[16:55:02] <zinid> 😕
[16:55:11] <Holger> But I see how like 100% of the geek audience totally insists on it.
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[21:58:10] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Geeks use and line xmpp clients and are far away from daily user cases ;)
[21:59:18] <rom1dep> Holger: is it really impossible to get E2EE with OMEMO or a successor to work reliably?
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[22:14:31] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Nice panther ...
[22:14:50] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Holger: I see u offline? Are u hiding ?😍✌😎
[22:15:18] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Wow
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[22:26:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> What's up here ?
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