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[01:28:03] <bowlofeggs> i see that there is a tag for 18.03 in github, but i'm not able to find release notes - are they posted somewhere other than the blog?
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[07:31:32] <zinid> bowlofeggs: not yet
[07:31:44] <cromain> will be published today
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[08:05:46] <zinid> > One problem with re-using pubsub everywhere is that xep60 does not include a 'from' in the notifications
Does it matter now when there is OMEMO everywhere?
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[08:14:02] <cromain> zinid: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html#impl-association
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[08:14:24] <zinid> oh!
[08:14:29] <cromain> we support "publisher" generating entity
[08:15:00] <zinid> cromain, so, basically, can we build a simple groupchat on top of pubsub?
[08:15:19] <cromain> yes
[08:15:28] <zinid> flow, see? ๐Ÿ™‚
[08:15:40] <cromain> but technically, it would be best to refactor that old pubsub engine
[08:15:59] <zinid> cromain, that's a technical question, I'm currently only discovering opportunities
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[08:16:10] <zinid> *we're
[08:16:24] <zinid> as MIX became bloated crap
[08:16:39] <cromain> room andpubsub nodes are same thing, it's a channel with writers and readers; and in groupchat all readers are writers also
[08:16:53] <cromain> both can share same code, just apply different business rules
[08:17:14] <zinid> yeah, I know that
[08:17:27] <zinid> I'm just told that there is no way to identify the generating entity
[08:17:39] <zinid> but this is not true apparently
[08:17:45] <cromain> yep that's false
[08:18:16] <cromain> you can have open pubsub node, where all subscribers are allowed to publish
[08:18:28] <cromain> and every publication can include the publisher jid
[08:19:05] <zinid> is it possible to force publisher jid somehow?
[08:19:15] <zinid> i.e. make sure it's always appended by the service?
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[08:19:52] <zinid> well, not sure I formulate my question correctly, the point is not to have "fakes"
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[08:20:02] <cromain> yes, we can force itemreply="publisher" in node config
[08:20:22] <cromain> i mean in default node config
[08:20:59] <flow> Ok, but that means participants can't hide their JID
[08:21:07] <cromain> An implementation MAY enable the node configuration...  it's all about our choice for good defaults
[08:21:19] <zinid> flow, that's a separate question and jid proxy should do that
[08:21:31] <zinid> jid proxy should be a separate entity
[08:23:35] <flow> I'm not sold that proxy JIDs are the ultimative solution, especially if you only want to achieve semi-anonymous rooms, i.e. where other participants can't see your real JID, but the room admin can
[08:23:52] <flow> But I know that this is a controversial topic
[08:23:57] <zinid> yeah
[08:24:08] <zinid> anyway, this should go into a separate xep
[08:24:12] <flow> One that can't likely be solved by a compromise, you can only have it this or that way
[08:24:46] <zinid> my vision is that we need something like whatsapp groupchat, there is no requirement to hide jids
[08:24:55] <flow> I also like the idea that you can interact with a room by just sending a message stanza to it
[08:25:15] <flow> Or to send a PM by using a construct like <channel>@<domain>/<nick>
[08:25:42] <zinid> is there technical reason for this?
[08:25:48] <zinid> because I want to have a pony
[08:26:09] <Holger> zinid: Right, that's the common use case I think, so I totally agree we shouldn't bloat the core group chat solution with other niche use cases.
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[08:26:43] <Holger> flow: Stick to 0045? ๐Ÿ™‚
[08:26:51] <flow> It's more a design and simplicity reason, how intuitive is its usable
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[08:27:09] <flow> Damn I really need to switch away from urxvt, I don't see any emojis
[08:27:36] <flow> Holger, and patch it up like Ge0rg tries? TBH I'd like to see both approaches being tried
[08:27:52] <Holger> But the mess you end up with PMs makes them extremely non-intuitive to implement.
[08:28:28] <flow> Yes PM in xep45 are a mess, but can't that be fixable by a new clean room design?
[08:28:52] <zinid> what is intuitive? user@chatroom/nick?
[08:28:55] <zinid> intuitive for whom?
[08:29:01] <zinid> definitely not for my wife
[08:29:02] <Holger> flow: I think that's hard, and I don't see the use case.
[08:29:29] <Holger> Except for that anon use case which I believe is niche.
[08:29:30] <flow> zinid, implementors
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[08:29:52] <zinid> flow, that's strange, because I personally don't give a fuck
[08:29:56] <flow> Holger, remind me again, what was the PM mess in xep45?
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[08:30:06] <zinid> and I don't have nostalgia for "groupchat" or stuff like that
[08:30:43] <zinid> also, by not using messages we bypass the sad state of routing rules in xmpp which is about to change and become xmpp2
[08:30:49] <Holger> flow: Interactions with Carbons and MAM, privacy foo, I'm sure there was more.
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[08:31:25] <cromain> from xep60: 12.11 Auto-Subscribing Owners and Publishers. you can publish message to an open pubsub node, and be automatically subscribed. isn't simple enough ?
[08:31:48] <Holger> flow: And I mean there's the obvious UI mess that I just want a single conversation with you, not one in each room where you happened to PM me.
[08:32:01] <zinid> cromain, yeah, that's nice
[08:32:53] <Holger> BBL
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[09:36:32] <cromain> https://blog.process-one.net/ejabberd-18-03/
[09:36:59] <zinid> great!
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[09:48:24] <Holger> ๐Ÿ‘
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[10:53:36] <cromain> https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/from_18.01_to_18.03/
[10:53:49] <cromain> forgot to mention....
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[10:57:43] <zinid> better later than never ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[11:14:12] <jan> Hello world...
[11:14:53] <zinid> hi
[11:16:09] <jan> ops, OMEMO is grayed out
[11:16:24] <zinid> that's NSA
[11:16:54] <mrDoctorWho> hey guys, could you shed some light on StateData variable in ejabberd's mod_muc_room? Where it comes from?
[11:17:10] <zinid> mrDoctorWho, include/mod_muc_room.hrl
[11:17:49] <mrDoctorWho> no, I mean the variable itself (or it's value, where is it assigned?), not the #state record
[11:18:08] <zinid> in mod_muc_room:init/1
[11:18:25] <zinid> it's a standard state data of gen_fsm
[11:18:43] <zinid> maybe I don't understand the question though...
[11:19:19] <mrDoctorWho> so it's created when a groupchat is created and stored in a persistent manner?
[11:19:34] <zinid> sort of
[11:19:43] <zinid> part of it is stored
[11:19:56] <zinid> #config{} and something else I think
[11:20:21] <mrDoctorWho> how do I define what to store?
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[11:20:55] <zinid> that's not that simple
[11:21:07] <zinid> you need to do a lot of fiddling
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[11:21:56] <zinid> see make_opts, set_opts
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[11:22:21] <mrDoctorWho> yeah I'm looking at it right now
[11:22:27] <mrDoctorWho> thank you
[11:23:06] <zinid> this depends on how complex structure you want to store
[11:23:28] <zinid> if it's a flag, just add it to #config{} and adjust set_opts/make_opts
[11:24:05] <mrDoctorWho> I need to store offline users, a list of jids and probably their resources
[11:24:12] <zinid> oh
[11:24:47] <zinid> then take a look at "subscribers" field
[11:24:58] <zinid> this is the most complex case btw
[11:25:31] <mrDoctorWho> I'm curious what is "robots" field
[11:25:45] <zinid> captcha challengers
[11:26:11] <zinid> anyone challenging with captcha is a robot until proven otherwise
[11:26:43] <mrDoctorWho> how about the presumption of innocence?
[11:27:00] <zinid> there is no place for democracy
[11:28:16] <mrDoctorWho> what are "is_subscriber" and "subscriptions" in #user?
[11:28:24] <mrDoctorWho> sorry for too many questions
[11:28:25] <zinid> mucsub
[11:28:41] <zinid> https://docs.ejabberd.im/developer/xmpp-clients-bots/proposed-extensions/muc-sub/
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[11:34:15] <mrDoctorWho> so, if I understand correctly, there already is a list of users and it's kept persistently (subscribers), all I need is to implement mucsub on the client side
[11:34:28] <zinid> yes
[11:34:37] <zinid> if the usage is ok for you
[11:35:37] <mrDoctorWho> is there any drawbacks for the server when using that?
[11:36:04] <zinid> the implementation is inefficient
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[11:38:12] <mrDoctorWho> could you elaborate please?
[11:42:17] <zinid> there is O(N) in some operations, i.e. they will be slow when a list of subscribers is huge
[11:44:48] <mrDoctorWho> hmm, ok. Still better than keeping a homebrew record in mnesia
[11:45:24] <zinid> cromain, is mucsub subscribers index added in ecs?
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[11:50:15] <rom1dep> How long does it take generally to have the latest release hitting the Debian repos?
[11:54:47] <zinid> a few weeks
[11:54:56] <zinid> 2 weeks minimum I guess
[11:55:04] <zinid> to get from unstable to testing
[11:58:38] <cromain> zinid: yes we have indec on host,jid in subscribers table
[12:01:34] <zinid> mrDoctorWho, ah, then the issue is fixed
[12:01:53] <mrDoctorWho> zinid, great!
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[12:09:53] <rom1dep> Ok, 2weeks is fair
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[12:10:52] <rom1dep> If you guys see something moving in the Debian repos, don't hesitate to hl me
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[12:20:38] <zinid> rom1dep, you're better off to ping debalance, he is the maintainer ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[12:23:00] <rom1dep> Good to know, thanks
[12:23:59] <debalance> zinid, default migration time unstable -> testing is 5 days if no bugs of severity serious or higher are reported
[12:24:59] <Holger> WTF the release notes were published hours ago and he's STILL not done with updating the package ...
[12:25:02] <debalance> but first I'll have to update + upload everything, and once it is in testing I have to uppdate + upload everyting to stable-backports
[12:25:03] <Holger> WTF the release notes were published hours ago and he's STILL not done with updating the package ...
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[12:25:44] <zinid> debalance, ah, even better then
[12:26:02] <Holger> .
[12:26:04] <Holger> Ah.
[12:26:16] <zinid> WTF I see your message twice
[12:26:18] <Holger> The room was lagging as hell for me.  Seems rejoining helped.
[12:26:27] <Holger> Yes this time I sent it twice ;-)  Sorry.
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[12:26:37] <debalance> For me too
[12:26:45] <zinid> Argh, don't do that anymore
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[12:26:59] <zinid> you make xmpp look miserable
[12:27:16] <Holger> Hehe.  I thought I pressed the wrong knob due to the lag (maybe a minute or so).
[12:27:29] <debalance> I thought it was a bug in gajim
[12:27:36] <Holger> Haha.
[12:27:37] <Holger> Haha.
[12:27:38] <Holger> Haha.
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[12:31:54] <Licaon_Kter> #omemoatfault
[12:32:28] <zinid> #toofat
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[12:34:16] <Student> hello! 18.03 is ready? so it's a time to migrate from 18.01 to 18.03, are there any problems if using MySQL ?
[12:35:09] <zinid> Student, https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/from_18.01_to_18.03/
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[12:38:13] <Student> zinid: yes, thanks, I understand thet will need to upgrade Mysql schema, have a question about mod_block_strangers
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[12:38:58] <rom1dep> > Argh, don't do that anymore
> you make xmpp look miserable
๐Ÿ˜‚
[12:39:00] <Student> so now if it is enabled, strangers will need to bypass captcha so onnly then they cann write to users on my server? do I understand correct?
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[12:41:52] <zinid> Student, yes
[12:43:00] <Student> zinid: thanks! this is what I was wait for a long time! big thanks!!!
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[13:00:13] <zinid> http://upload.zinid.ru/99bb0647172ef83f67aa892f2cd0f2fa9d04f206/IrQwhRttA1XKCu80I3Vr5TyHkigm4PAM3ybAYqT1/________.png
[13:00:47] <zinid> Holger, hum, seems like I don't have a problem with local characters
[13:01:50] <Holger> zinid: Define "problem".
[13:02:03] <Holger> zinid: He's unhappy about file names such as ___.foo.
[13:02:05] <zinid> Holger, the users has ________.ext
[13:02:15] <Holger> Yes, cosmetic issue.
[13:02:17] <zinid> but I see ั‚ะตัั‚.ext
[13:02:45] <Holger> Ah.
[13:03:37] <zinid> ah, wait
[13:03:38] <Holger> Er where do you see that? :-)
[13:03:42] <zinid> no, there is ________ in url
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[13:03:45] <Holger> Yes.
[13:03:58] <zinid> but when I save it with Dino, it saves it as "ั‚ะตัั‚"
[13:04:01] <zinid> wtf lol?
[13:04:37] <Holger> I was just too lazy to cope with URL encoding or whatever so I replace non-ASCII characters with _, assuming that people don't see the URL anyways.
[13:04:47] <zinid> ah, ok
[13:05:03] <Holger> But I expected such an Issue to be submitted one day, I would've expected it earlier actually :-)
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[13:05:14] <Holger> No idea what magic you're seeing in Dino ...
[13:05:19] <Holger> Did you send with Conversations?
[13:05:30] <zinid> no, with Dino
[13:05:48] <zinid> seems like "ั‚ะตัั‚" is included in some metadata then, like oob or something
[13:05:54] <Holger> Maybe it's attaching some metadata.
[13:05:55] <Holger> Right.
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[13:06:16] <Holger> E.g. XEP-0385 which edhelas is using.
[13:06:18] <Holger> But no idea.
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[13:06:33] <Holger> Dunno about the ticket, I guess I should fix that.
[13:07:27] <zinid> there is url_encode in ejabberd_http.erl ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[13:08:40] <Holger> Yeah I even do use it somewhere, I was just slightly unsure whether I still might be overlooking issues with blindly storing/delivering arbitrary names.
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[13:14:58] <zinid> Holger, seems like I caught the pubsub bug: https://gist.github.com/zinid/5c7b87988f88b2542150db6d80e04d6c
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[13:15:53] <zinid> ah, it's a bug in mod_deny_omemo.erl, lol
[13:16:08] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: Karma?
[13:16:11] <Holger> zinid: :-)
[13:16:17] <Holger> zinid: Seems you don't have the current version!
[13:16:43] <zinid> Holger, I should stop using outdated versions from yesterday?
[13:16:48] <Holger> Yes!
[13:16:51] <Holger> https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/commit/d783cc7ccabd0243
[13:16:52] <zinid> okay!
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[13:17:07] <Holger> And https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/commit/89c5bc0546477 ...
[13:17:24] <Licaon_Kter> Can you "hot swap" as a CI directly?
[13:17:57] <Holger> zinid: The alternative would be that I test my code *before* pushing it, but that's a bit unreasonable.
[13:18:35] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: CI?
[13:19:00] <Licaon_Kter> Continous Integration, eg Travis & co
[13:19:22] <zinid> Travis & co for ejabberd-contrib?
[13:19:24] <zinid> sounds funny ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[13:19:35] <zinid> anyway, new code loaded!
[13:20:30] <Holger> \o/
[13:20:55] <zinid> ** Reason = {error,{bad_queue,{enospc,<<"/tmp/ejabberd_queue/402">>}}
[13:20:57] <zinid> gosh
[13:20:59] <zinid> bad luck today
[13:21:13] <zinid> I removed some stuff but seems like lager is dead now
[13:21:23] <Holger> zinid: I actually got the first complaint about OMEMO not working with me, so that module seems to be fixed.
[13:22:39] <zinid> ok, ejabberd_logger:restart() helped
[13:22:50] <Holger> (And in another room someone is complaining that you can still disable OMEMO ...)
[13:23:01] <zinid> ๐Ÿ˜€
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[13:26:03] <rom1dep> Did you start having nightmares due to omemo or not yet?
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[13:32:12] <zinid> > that you can still disable OMEMO
I really don't understand this
[13:34:54] <Holger> zinid: What if I press the 'unencrypted' knob by accident while chatting with you.  We're DOOOMED!!!
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[13:36:41] <zinid> whatever, next stage is metadata protection, hang on
[13:37:08] <zinid> I will protect metadata from myself
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[13:38:04] <Holger> Yes better you don't know the real identities of your contacts.
[13:38:32] <zinid> Holger, are you Holger?
[13:38:38] <zinid> not sure ๐Ÿ˜•
[13:38:40] <Holger> Of course not.
[13:40:08] <Holger> https://twitter.com/iNPUTmice/status/978627094069460993
[13:41:33] <rom1dep> Clearly swipe is the most anticipated one!
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[14:06:25] <zinid> Holger, I set the issue with non-latin characters to 18.04 milestone, I will handle it myself if you don't have time by then
[14:07:06] <Holger> zinid: Ok.
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[14:09:02] <Holger> zinid: Well it's probably just removing the character replacement and calling url_encode on the PUT/GET URLs.
[14:09:16] <Holger> I'm just paranoid when it comes to Unicode.
[14:10:05] <zinid> it would be great to escape only non-latin characters
[14:10:13] <zinid> also, we should move url_encode() to misc.erl
[14:10:17] <zinid> so there is still some work
[14:10:30] <Holger> Ah doesn't url_encode() do that?
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[14:10:39] <zinid> not sure, just saying ๐Ÿ™‚
[14:11:35] <Holger> Yeah.  But seems it does.
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[14:12:59] <Holger> > ejabberd_http:url_encode(<<"zinid">>).
<<"zinid">>
> ejabberd_http:url_encode(<<"zinรฏd">>).
<<"zin%EFd">>
[14:14:39] <zinid> great
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[15:41:20] <Neustradamus> Holger ah ah ah ah
[15:41:44] <Holger> Wat?
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[15:43:33] <zinid> rom1dep, for the record, xabber has swipe panel ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[15:44:23] <Holger> Haven't tried it for ages.
[15:44:33] <Holger> zinid: Do you like the UI?
[15:44:36] <zinid> No
[15:44:55] <zinid> But seems like I can influence the author, so maybe he will improve it ๐Ÿ˜‰
[15:45:23] <Holger> ๐Ÿ‘
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[15:46:54] <zinid> ๐Ÿ’€
[15:47:08] <zinid> emojis look horrible
[15:47:32] <Holger> ๐Ÿ‘ป
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[15:48:14] <Holger> ๐Ÿ‘น
[15:48:38] <zuglufttier> > I'm just paranoid when it comes to Unicode.
Holger: I remember the state of unicode 10 or 15 years ago... You are not paranoid, just a sane person :D
[15:48:38] <zinid> scary shit
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[15:49:48] <zinid> Holger, anyway, I would say it's terrible, it's a bit different
[15:50:07] <zinid> *I wouldn't
[15:50:53] <Holger> I see.  Maybe I'll try it again.
[15:51:17] <zinid> I'm trying Xabber Beta
[15:51:44] <zinid> and reporting the problems to the author ๐Ÿ™‚
[15:51:50] <Holger> Sometimes I totally agree with whatever the author says and sometimes it sounds insane to me.  Nothing in between :-)
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[15:52:20] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: how u like dual swipes?
[15:52:37] <zinid> dual swipes?
[15:53:12] <Licaon_Kter> Left for chats, right for contact info.
[15:53:17] <zinid> ah
[15:53:24] <zinid> dunno, didn't try it yet
[15:53:24] <Licaon_Kter> Didn't youpay atention to the tutorial?
[15:53:32] <zinid> I didn't ๐Ÿ˜€
[15:54:00] <zinid> ah, found it
[15:54:02] <zinid> well, nice
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[15:54:24] <zinid> I see vcard
[15:54:29] <zinid> that's great actually
[15:54:37] <pod> i upgraded from 16.09 to 18.01 today and i have some warnings in my log files, mostly due to deprecated options or changed parameter definition - is there any resource where i can read about all the changes? the official documentation does not seem up to date
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[15:55:13] <zinid> yeah, documentation is lagging
[15:55:19] <zinid> you can ask here
[15:55:30] <Licaon_Kter> https://account.draugr.de/media/http_upload/ImgV5EbVwAeyvAMNdcEd1Hx5ZMW656YP/IMG_20180327_025040.jpg
[15:55:39] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: Also, why does it connect to facebook? ^^^
[15:56:06] <zuglufttier> Because of $.
[15:56:07] <zinid> lol
[15:56:10] <pod> hehe, okay s2s_certfile for example is deprecated and it says i have to define it in the global settings, also its called certfile now iirc - i have no idea where to put it tbh
[15:56:59] <zinid> pod, all certfiles are now a single configuration top-level option: certfiles
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[15:57:26] <zinid> e.g.
certfiles:
  - "/path/to/certs/*.pem"
  - "/path/to/other/certs/*.pem"
[15:58:30] <zinid> https://blog.process-one.net/ejabberd-17-11-happy-birthday-ejabberd/
[15:58:39] <zinid> see "Introduce โ€˜certfilesโ€™ global option"
[15:59:31] <pod> i have the certfile defined within each port section in the listen part of the config if i remove all of them and just put it at the beginning of my config the node wont start
[15:59:43] <zinid> it will
[15:59:48] <pod> i tried it
[15:59:52] <pod> it does not
[15:59:56] <zinid> it does
[15:59:58] <pod> :)
[15:59:59] <zinid> something is wrong then
[16:00:10] <zinid> what error does it print?
[16:00:38] <pod> i have to check its been 9 hours since then - brb
[16:00:57] <zinid> I don't have any certificate defined in listeners
[16:01:04] <zinid> and everything works smoothly
[16:03:26] <Licaon_Kter> zuglufttier: it has ads?
[16:03:41] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I'm asking Andrew
[16:03:49] <zinid> he is silent so far
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[16:05:22] <pod> 2018-03-27 08:48:09.322 [warning] <0.2333.0>@ejabberd_c2s:process_terminated:290 (tls|<0.2333.0>) Failed to secure c2s connection: TLS failed: Failed to find a certificate matching the domain in SNI extension: error:1412E0E2:SSL routines:ssl_parse_clienthello_tlsext:clienthello tlsext
[16:06:46] <zinid> pod, well, at least it starts ๐Ÿ˜‰
[16:07:05] <pod> yes, it starts i was wrong :)
[16:07:07] <zinid> I think the problem is ejabberd doesn't see certfiles, double check logs if there are no any warnings
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[16:07:22] <pod> but whats a server worth that not able to have the clients connect
[16:07:45] <zuglufttier> Licaon_Kter: Facebook ma
[16:08:29] <zuglufttier> Licaon_Kter: Connecting to Facebook may generate some ad traffic, I don't know ;)
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[16:08:49] <zuglufttier> Maybe some kind of tracking?
[16:08:58] <pod> 2018-03-27 08:47:44.280 [error] <0.1905.0>@ejabberd_config:validate_opts:1029 ignoring option 'certfiles' with invalid value:
[16:09:01] <zinid> pod, but how, if there is no certificate
[16:09:06] <zinid> so, that's the answer
[16:09:07] <pod> then it prints the path and the certificate file
[16:09:20] <zinid> show this section
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[16:12:29] <pod> zinid, sorry i cant follow
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[16:13:22] <zinid> show the part of the config where you have `certfiles` defined
[16:13:52] <zinid> maybe there is a problem with indentation or you forgot `-` or quotes
[16:14:28] <Licaon_Kter> zuglufttier: funny that xmpp was connecting through Tor but those were clearnet... ๐Ÿ™„
Nothing new: https://github.com/redsolution/xabber-android/issues/created_by/licaon-kter
๐Ÿ˜’
[16:15:28] <pod> well i just changed the s2s_certfile: "" line to certfiles: "" and put it on top of my config, also i removed all certfile lines inside the port sections - i cannot show you since i changed it back - else i wouldnt be here in this muc with you :)
[16:16:10] <zinid> you cannot do `certfiles: ""`
[16:16:13] <zinid> this will not work
[16:16:21] <zinid> I really don't understand what you're doing and why
[16:16:37] <pod> but i will try again tomorrow i guess i have an error somewhere
[16:16:39] <zuglufttier> Licaon_Kter: Bad enough... That means you'll be tracked at least by Facebook when using that app.
[16:16:54] <zinid> really, what's fucking hard to understand in this:
certfiles:
   - "/path/to/*.pem"
[16:17:12] <zinid> why are you putting
certfiles: ""
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[16:18:50] <rom1dep> > rom1dep, for the record, xabber has swipe panel ๐Ÿ˜‰
but I'm an ignorant cryptobitch, OMEMO is my oxygen!
[16:19:29] <zinid> then suffer
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[16:19:41] <zinid> hope OMEMO worth it
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[16:22:35] <pod> alright, changed it to your version and it works now, thanks
[16:23:38] <zinid> good
[16:23:55] <pod> 2018-03-27 18:19:42.002 [error] <0.4761.0>@gen_mod:validate_opts:536 unknown option 'db_type' for module 'mod_carboncopy' will be likely ignored, available options are: iqdisc, cache_missed, cache_life_time, cache_size, use_cache, ram_db_type
[16:24:03] <pod> are those options explained somewhere?
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[16:24:26] <zinid> I don't think so
[16:24:32] <zinid> replace with ram_db_type
[16:24:49] <zinid> caching options are documented, yes
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[16:27:53] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, ok, there is Xabber account on Xabber servers where you can keep your preferences (like colors and so on), you can log into that account using facebook, g+, etc
[16:27:59] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, this is not enabled by default
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[16:29:35] <pod> btw is it possible to downgrade from 18.03 to 18.01 without changed anything?
[16:29:46] <pod> *changing
[16:30:07] <zinid> yes, if you don't use sql
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[16:30:15] <pod> mysql
[16:30:57] <zinid> there is migration procedure from 18.01 to 18.03, documented, I guess you need to do the reverse
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[16:31:22] <zinid> or maybe you don't
[16:31:28] <zinid> there are only indexes added
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[16:40:42] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I get that, but I used a different account. Also, why aren't google servers contacted too then? ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜’
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[16:46:01] <zinid> dunno ๐Ÿ™‚
[16:46:04] <zinid> I asked him
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[16:48:22] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, btw, what application is that? some kind of firewall?
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[16:49:37] <zinid> NetGuard?
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[16:50:03] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yep, local VPN firewall, NetGuard
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[18:37:02] <zinid> okay, Andrew admitted there is a problem with unrecognized queries to facebook/g+, they will look into this problem
[18:37:28] <zinid> seems like the library is doing something weird
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[18:42:33] <Andrew Nenakhov> Yeah, it should not be doing this.
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[19:48:46] <marc> zinid: XEP-401: I still need code to auto-accept subscriptions when a token is provided in the request
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[19:49:58] <zinid> if xep-401 doesn't require pars I can implement it
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[19:50:47] <zinid> I will not implement pars because the author is jackass and I'd prefer to keep in touch with the author
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[19:51:58] <zinid> from what I see in the XEP it's not very hard to implement, a few days for me
[19:52:00] <marc> zinid: that's needed for 401 and you can talk with me about it ๐Ÿ˜˜
[19:52:16] <marc> zinid: what XEP?
[19:52:19] <zinid> 401
[19:52:30] <marc> It's almost done
[19:52:50] <zinid> and the whole pars should be implemented???
[19:53:30] <marc> Whole PARS? Just auto-accepting
[19:54:08] <zinid> > It's almost done
Where is the code?
[19:54:37] <marc> In my private Git
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[19:55:03] <zinid> great to know!
[19:55:10] <zinid> ๐Ÿ˜€
[19:55:56] <marc> zinid: just provide me the code or give me some hints :)
[19:56:08] <zinid> ah
[19:57:22] <zinid> well, your question is too broad then
[19:57:34] <zinid> what means auto-accept?
[19:57:47] <zinid> can't you just do roster pushes when "a token is provided"
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[19:59:08] <marc> If somebody sends me a subscription request it should be automatically accepted / mutual subscription should be established
[19:59:23] <marc> Given the token is correct
[19:59:54] <zinid> and where is the token? inside the subscription?
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[20:05:35] <marc> Yes
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[20:07:16] <zinid> > This should be performed as described in ยง3.4 of XEP-0379, by sending a presence subscription request containing the 'preauth' token.
^^^^ This?
[20:07:54] <zinid> <presence to='romeo@montague.net' type='subscribe'>
  <preauth xmlns='urn:xmpp:pars:0' token='1tMFqYDdKhfe2pwp' />
</presence>
[20:09:27] <marc> Yes, looks goof
[20:09:36] <marc> good
[20:09:52] <zinid> ๐Ÿ˜€
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[20:11:31] <zinid> well, I understood the problem, I will experiment a bit tomorrow and will tell you how is better to do this
[20:12:24] <marc> zinid: thanks
[20:12:29] <zinid> apparently you need to intercept the subscription request in roster_in_subscription hook and perform some actions
[20:13:12] <marc> Yes, but I don't understand this part of ejabberd :)
[20:14:25] <zinid> yeah, there is a lot of magic
[20:14:33] <zinid> that's why I said I need to do some fiddling
[20:15:09] <marc> zinid: TIA
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[22:28:15] <Student> If I install 18.01 from Linux installer, do I need to know anything while upgrade to 18.03?
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[22:28:44] <Student> about SQL update - I nnotice that, I mean use Installer
[22:36:00] <Odin> Student: have you looked at https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/upgrade/from_18.01_to_18.03/
[22:36:09] <Student> yes
[22:36:20] <Student> there is only about SQL changes
[22:36:54] <Odin> Student: As far as I know, that's all you need to do.
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[22:38:00] <zinid> Odin is right
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[22:58:28] <Student> are there any example of how mod_block_strangers must be configured
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