Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Thursday, May 3, 2018< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[07:05:19] <zinid> Holger, quite a huge patch with block_item, thanks
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[07:19:07] <Holger> Yeah mostly in the tests.
[07:19:30] <zinid> yep
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[09:14:37] mightyBroccoli leaves the room: Rechner geht in den Ruhezustand
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[09:50:20] Holger leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
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[10:01:31] Andrew Nenakhov leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[10:02:25] <Holger> I'm blind, where's the knob to configure a room in Tkabber?
[10:02:59] <Holger> zinid: Debian has Tkabber 1.1, is that recent enough for the avatar thing?
[10:03:13] <zinid> let me check
[10:03:21] <Holger> Current release is 1.2.
[10:03:31] <Holger> 1.1.2
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[10:03:41] <zinid> yes
[10:03:49] <zinid> that's the last version, hehe
[10:04:05] <Holger> Yes I mean 1.1.2 is current.  I have 1.1.
[10:04:11] <zinid> I gave you the URL to the avatar png
[10:04:22] <zinid> ah, well, I'm not sure :/
[10:04:26] <zinid> let me ask teo
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[10:04:45] <Holger> I'll just download the current version.
[10:05:15] <zinid> I would look into the log, but I have no idea how to do that in fossil, lol
[10:05:46] <Holger> Hehe.
[10:05:55] <Holger> Do I need to enable a plugin?
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[10:06:08] <zinid> I don't think so
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[10:09:55] <zinid> seems like I don't have any plugins explictly installed or enabled
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[10:16:13] <zinid> > I'm blind, where's the knob to configure a room in Tkabber?
http://upload.zinid.ru/tkabber-room-avatar.png
[10:16:24] <zinid> sorry, it's in Russian, but you should get the idea
[10:16:51] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[10:17:29] <zinid> and here is the Conversations' logo in acceptable format and size: https://github.com/siacs/Conversations/blob/master/src/main/res/drawable-hdpi/main_logo.png
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[10:21:30] <Holger> Ahh you press the *Subject* knob! :-)
[10:22:11] <zinid> :D
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[10:24:30] <Holger> тема, like in German ("Thema").
[10:24:43] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[10:25:05] <zinid> yeah, if you know cyrillic letters :)
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[10:34:03] <zinid> Holger, still no success? :)
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[10:35:22] <Holger> Sorry I'm multi-tasking.
[10:35:25] <Holger> 1.1 is too old :-)
[10:35:35] <Holger> Found the place in 1.1.2.
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[10:37:14] <Holger> How do I save login credentials?
[10:37:32] <zinid> In preferences ;)
[10:37:41] <zinid> Don't ask why :)
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[10:38:03] <Holger> Ah, thx.
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[10:41:12] <Holger> zinid: Done.
[10:41:54] <zinid> http://upload.zinid.ru/99bb0647172ef83f67aa892f2cd0f2fa9d04f206/ITX33w4txRzbR2vmkztwumakFhi6MCBlJyTnIecG/V-anH4VzQKyP7dmEoTa-Xw.jpg
[10:42:06] <zinid> it works automatically
[10:42:11] <zinid> miracle
[10:42:52] <Holger> Oh I wasn't aware Daniel supports it.
[10:43:05] <zinid> yes, starting from 2.1.4 or so
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[10:44:13] <zinid> thanks for this, you probably lost 1 hour of your life :D
[10:50:26] <Holger> Avatars are important!
[10:50:41] <Holger> And Tkabber is nice.
[10:51:03] <zinid> yeah, people love this shit (avatars I mean)
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[10:51:20] zinid is not an exception, it improves searching
[10:52:20] <Holger> Yup.
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[10:54:19] <zinid> and Tkabber is nice for geeks, yes, it's a pitty it's dead now
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[11:01:29] <Holger> Can we set an avatar for this room as well?
[11:01:37] <zinid> it's set
[11:01:42] <zinid> ejabberd is outdated
[11:01:55] <Holger> Ah ok.
[11:01:56] <zinid> it doesn't include vcard hash
[11:02:36] <Holger> Ah and Conversations doesn't query without hash I guess.
[11:02:38] <zinid> edhelas, you don't need to poll avatars starting from ejabberd 18.04 btw, you can rely on vcard-temp:xupdate element in room's presence
[11:02:42] <zinid> Holger, right
[11:03:03] <edhelas> zinid is there a XEP for that ?
[11:03:13] <zinid> a xep for what?
[11:03:22] <edhelas> vcard-temp:xupdate
[11:03:23] <zinid> for vcard hashes in presences? yes
[11:03:40] <zinid> xep-0153?
[11:03:52] <edhelas> actually I'm not polling avatars in MUC :p for performance purpose
[11:03:59] <zinid> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0153.html#bizrules
[11:04:28] <edhelas> that's nice :)
[11:04:45] <edhelas> ejabberd is making XMPP great again
[11:06:33] <Andrew Nenakhov> edhelas, XMPP was never great
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[11:06:45] <zinid> :D
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[11:08:12] <edhelas> so ejabberd is making XMPP great.
[11:08:24] <edhelas> (*kinda)
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[16:02:10] <mightyBroccoli> debalance: a while ago you proposed to someone that if he/she would test drive the ejabberd 18.04 stretch package it would accelerate the release schedule. What do you mean by that?
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[16:26:32] <debalance> mightyBroccoli: once I have prepared new packages they need to be tested before I upload them to Debian
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[16:28:35] <debalance> I put them in my own repository at apt.debalance.de to make it easy and have as similar conditions as the official repo as possible
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[19:17:49] <marek> Holger: enforce the axolotl.siacs namespace "open", does not help in propagation of omemo-keys. Keys from CS-iOS are not available for a new muc-member - using conversations unless s/he has everybody else in the roster!?
[19:22:11] <Holger> marek: Are both on the same server?
[19:22:31] <marek> Yes
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[19:23:00] <Holger> This is a private, non-anonymous room?
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[19:25:34] <Holger> If so, then I dunno.  Would require some debugging to track down whether CS isn't publishing the key or Conversations isn't fetching it for some reason.  Maybe Conversations' adb output would tell you.
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[19:31:56] <marc> zinid, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/juE2jmhjl~M6W73l89jf6w
[19:32:05] <marc> zinid, please tell me if these errors are critical
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[19:35:08] <Holger> marc: Something is already listening on the address/port mod_proxy65 is trying to use.
[19:35:19] <zinid> several types of errors
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[19:35:28] <zinid> the first is wrong configuration (syntax error)
[19:35:33] <zinid> the next is busy port
[19:35:51] <zinid> then some ugly crash during server shutdown (not critical, but I wonder why it occurs)
[19:36:09] <zinid> and a lot of errors of mysql connection (most likely due to mysql dropping connections due to inactivity)
[19:36:14] <zinid> that's all I found
[19:36:32] <zinid> there are also a few warnings, but they are harmless
[19:36:59] <marc> Hm, busy port... strange
[19:37:14] <zinid> according to the log you fixed it
[19:37:57] <zinid> {eaddrnotavail,{7777,{88,99,82,107},tcp}}
[19:38:44] <zinid> but yeah, the report is fucking ugly as hell
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[19:40:30] <marek> Does CS usually publish the keys, when that namespace is open? Or is it only Conversations?
[19:41:04] <zinid> 2018-04-04 22:56:40.763 [warning] <0.15937.2>@mod_stream_mgmt:check_h_attribute:454 ehonda@example.com/Gajim acknowledged 89 stanzas, but only 88 were sent
2018-04-05 20:01:05.704 [warning] <0.20326.2>@mod_stream_mgmt:check_h_attribute:454 marc@example.com/gajim.993WH4OC acknowledged 8 stanzas, but only 2 were sent
2018-04-10 21:14:07.330 [warning] <0.12405.3>@mod_stream_mgmt:check_h_attribute:454 ehonda@example.com/Gajim acknowledged 94 stanzas, but only 93 were sent
[19:41:06] <zinid> wow
[19:41:15] <marek> Sorry it is hard to pinpoint where these questions are most adequate: ejabberd, conversations or CS
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[19:42:01] <marek> zinid: I have seen similar warning as well, what do they mean?
[19:42:28] <marek> About about acknowledged stanzas
[19:42:30] <zinid> marek, somewhere a bug
[19:42:46] <zinid> marc, marek, what ejabberd version are you guys using?
[19:42:55] <marek> 18.04
[19:43:18] <marc> zinid: 18.03 afaik
[19:43:30] <marc> Brb
[19:43:30] <marek> But I think I have seen this only with CS-iOS clients
[19:43:40] <zinid> then you already have a fixed version (I fixed the related bug in 18.03)
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[19:43:51] <zinid> so most likely Gajim's error
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[19:43:59] <marek> OK
[19:44:08] <zinid> marek, do you see that with gajim as well?
[19:45:38] <marek> No, but it is only me using gajim, so the chances are little
[19:45:41] <zinid> Psi used to have a similar bug, but rion alredy fixed it (not sure if it's released)
[19:46:00] <zinid> marek, I didn't understand
[19:46:32] <zinid> marek, with what client do you see those warnings?
[19:47:04] <marek> On my server it is only  me, I see this only for chatsecure-iOS (4.3)
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[19:48:19] <marc> zinid, how can I display the version (+ git hash)?
[19:48:21] <marek> > On my server I see this warning only for chatsecure-iOS (4.3)
[19:48:41] <zinid> marc, dunno :)
[19:48:47] <marek> !version walczak.io
[19:49:04] <zinid> !version zinid.ru
[19:49:06] <Servant> zinid: zinid.ru is running ejabberd version 18.04.3
[19:49:13] <Servant> marek: walczak.io is running ejabberd version 18.04.3 on unix/linux 4.4.0
[19:49:51] <marc> zinid, really? there is no command?
[19:50:07] <zinid> marc, well, I just don't know, I don't use ejabberdctl commands
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[19:50:41] <zinid> and badlop is not here, he usually knows about ejabberdctl commands ;)
[19:51:18] <marc> zinid, ejabberd 18.01.144 is running in that node
[19:51:25] <marc> ejabberdctl status
[19:51:49] <zinid> ah, 18.01 might have the bug in mod_stream_mgmt
[19:52:25] <zinid> but the bug is only triggered by client sending invalid stanza ;)
[19:52:29] <zinid> so Gajim still have a bug!
[19:52:43] <marc> zinid, that's not related to my "omemo bug", right?
[19:52:50] <zinid> nah
[19:53:02] <zinid> all these errors are pretty harmless
[19:53:12] <zinid> you unlikely to see any service degradation
[19:54:07] <zinid> except of this out-of-order SM warning, you can lose some messages I think
[19:54:31] <marc> okay, good :)
[19:57:10] <zinid> ok, I understand the bug with "unregistered_route", will fix it
[19:57:18] <zinid> (it's harmless though)
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[19:59:09] <zinid> marc, TLS warnings I guess relate to you (or someone else) testing your server with xmpp observatory?
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[19:59:51] <Holger> zinid: I see the SM counting errors with Gajim as well, I asked Link Mauve and he sees the same thing on his Prosody.
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[20:00:15] <marc> zinid, yes, I have high ratings on observatory
[20:00:17] <marc> :)
[20:00:23] <Holger> Gajim didn't do this in the past so I suspected an ejabberd bug initially.
[20:00:24] <zinid> Holger, marek said he sees them with CS as well
[20:00:29] <Holger> Yes same here.
[20:00:43] <Holger> My guess is that ejabberd, Prosody, Gajim and CS all get it wrong ;-)
[20:00:57] <zinid> sigh
[20:01:12] <zinid> even now, after we apply all the fixes?
[20:01:57] <Holger> I wasn't serious.  As Link Mauve sees the same thing both with Gajim and CS I still suspect client bugs.
[20:02:09] <zinid> ah
[20:02:18] <zinid> sarcasm!
[20:02:20] <Holger> I never see it with Conversations.
[20:02:34] <zinid> because daniel is genius?
[20:02:45] <Holger> So if there's still an ejabberd bug it's somehow not triggered by Conversations.
[20:02:59] <Holger> Or he's getting it wrong in just the same way as we :-)
[20:03:12] <zinid> yeah, I don't see this with my server too, so it's not triggered by Dino neither
[20:03:39] <Holger> He's able to count things so he's a genius?
[20:03:39] <zinid> ok, so Gajim and CS are guilty
[20:03:46] <zinid> very convenient
[20:03:49] <Holger> Yup.
[20:04:25] <Holger> Counting seems to be a very, *very* hard operation.
[20:04:33] <zinid> Holger, why weren't we able to count this? :P
[20:04:44] <zinid> We had the bug in the counter too ;)
[20:05:15] <zinid> if he's not genius then we're dumb fucks
[20:05:20] <zinid> not sure what's better :/
[20:05:51] <Holger> Yes we had this recent bug plus another few initially.
[20:05:55] <zinid> (ok, I'm drunk, so don't take my words too serious)
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[20:07:19] <zinid> http://upload.zinid.ru/99bb0647172ef83f67aa892f2cd0f2fa9d04f206/iqh6DcuSvew4oXkCO5TFPKfqIxYEvAVWPtDdOBvi/F2BtikN7Tb2O_oGOc23E9w.jpg
[20:07:29] <Holger> I remember corner cases like I stopped counting when the c2s connection was closed, but then another message arrived out of order after the close event.
[20:07:30] <zinid> I drink this shit
[20:07:38] <zinid> do you have this shit in your shops?
[20:07:51] <Holger> Vermouth?
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[20:07:54] <zinid> yep
[20:08:07] <Holger> I think we do.
[20:08:10] <Holger> Not sure :-)
[20:08:16] <Holger> I never touch this sort of stuff.
[20:08:22] <Holger> Maybe I should try it :-)
[20:08:41] <zinid> people don't like it because they say it's too sweet
[20:08:47] <Holger> I usually just drink beer, like all Germans.
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[20:09:01] <zinid> and it schtrudels, yeah, we know that
[20:09:04] <zinid> *eat
[20:09:12] <Holger> schschsch
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[20:11:51] <zinid> щщщ
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[20:12:39] <zinid> you see, we have a single letter for this!
[20:12:48] <zinid> you should really move to cyrillic (no)
[20:13:08] <stigger> schweinebraten! nobody eats schtrudel with beer, that's crazy.
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[20:16:10] <Holger> zinid: Ah, wasn't aware.
[20:18:04] <Holger> We don't always need three letters though!  If the 'sch' is followed by a 't' or an 'p', it's just written as 's' ("Stein", "Spiel").  Totally obvious rule.
[20:18:59] <zinid> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strudel_(Gericht)
[20:19:02] <zinid> indeed!
[20:19:08] <Holger> Right :-)
[20:19:24] <zinid> what if you omit "c"?
[20:19:27] <zinid> sh
[20:19:34] <zinid> will it be the same sound?
[20:20:08] <Holger> Doesn't exist in German.
[20:20:11] <Holger> I think.
[20:20:23] <zinid> but why you need "c"? It makes no sense
[20:20:30] <Holger> Yes it's totally useless.
[20:20:43] <zinid> tell them
[20:20:55] <Holger> The English guys understood that.
[20:21:33] <zinid> in russia btw there is a difference: ш is "sh", and щ is "sch"
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[20:22:04] <Holger> So those are different sounds?
[20:22:14] <zinid> yes
[20:22:25] <zinid> but the difference is totally useless either
[20:22:38] <stigger> zinid: german "sch" is not "щ", it's "ш"
[20:22:46] <zinid> stigger, ah, ok
[20:23:03] <Holger> stigger: And what's the other thing?
[20:23:32] <stigger> Holger: doesn't exist in German :)
[20:23:53] <zinid> Holger, the difference is when you try to say "sha" and "she"
[20:23:53] <Holger> Nor in English or anything else I might know? :-)
[20:23:59] <Holger> Not that I know anything else.
[20:24:20] <zinid> щ is a "soft" version of "ш", but it's hard to explain of course
[20:24:47] <marek> the second is when you pres harder your theeth ;)
[20:24:59] <marek> so the theeth make the sound, hahha
[20:25:21] <zinid> nah, I can say both with my teeth untouched
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[20:29:09] <rom1dep> I profoundly disagree with German graphemes making no sense
[20:30:43] <zinid> you're not even German
[20:30:50] <rom1dep> French are champions for inconsistent, absurd and complex crap
[20:31:23] <zinid> btw, I wonder why it's impossible to simplify the grammar?
[20:31:32] <zinid> really, what's wrong with that?
[20:31:35] <Holger> rom1dep: And English combines the German with the French inconsistencies.
[20:32:31] <zinid> Koreans simplified their alphabet btw, nobody has died
[20:32:39] <rom1dep> For instance, you can write something that's pronounced "oh" with three letters, none of which being a "o"
[20:33:05] <Holger> French is just a single sound altogether.
[20:33:07] <Holger> :-P
[20:33:16] <Holger> It goes through the nose.
[20:34:14] <rom1dep> Holger: I loved being able to look up every other new word into a Wörterbuch after just hearing it. You don't get to do that with French
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[20:36:18] <stigger> rom1dep: clearly, you've never talked to Bavarians
[20:36:34] <rom1dep> zinid: I guess some old people love to cultivate a sense of elitism and to keep the language unnecessarily complex, for the sake of it. Korean looks great, indeed.
[20:38:20] <marek> zinid‎: german ortography has been simplified a decade ago or so.
[20:38:33] <Holger> Yes but that failed miserably.
[20:38:34] <zinid> marek, ah, good
[20:39:23] <zinid> but I agree with rom1dep: this is a fucking elitism for the sake of elitism
[20:39:51] <rom1dep> stigger: heh. Should have mentioned "in an academic context". I've been exposed to some ugly Schwäbisch, though
[20:39:56] <zinid> I would love to see Russian simplified a lot
[20:39:59] <Holger> Yes simplification of German ortography failed precisely for that reason.
[20:40:17] <Holger> They didn't want to annoy the elite so the did it extremely half-heartedly.
[20:40:39] <Holger> Now often both the old and the new spelling are allowed.
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[20:40:51] <zinid> lol
[20:41:01] <zinid> xkcd anyone?
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[20:42:34] <rom1dep> So it will end up with a mix of both. Best way to catch up with the French, yeah!
[20:44:11] <zinid> btw, we go the same route in russia: many words now allowed in both spelling, is it a trend?
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[20:47:47] <Licaon_Kter> RO is phonetic... WYSIWYS 🙄
[20:49:05] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I heard you have 100500 grammar cases
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[20:49:47] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: I guess not, afaiks it's the same as Russian
[20:50:48] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: what do you mean exactly? Speaking the language is one, dissecting it for academic purpose is different.
What's *cases* exactly?
[20:50:59] <zinid> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_grammar#Case
[20:51:07] <zinid> well, whatever, seems like I'm wrong
[20:51:10] <zinid> you have only a few
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[20:53:48] <Licaon_Kter> Right, those, you rock these too, мама мамы маме маму... 🙄
[20:54:13] <zinid> yeah, ridiculos shit
[20:54:47] <zinid> I recall there is a language with 19 fucking cases, I thought that was Romanian, but I'm wrong
[20:55:36] <rom1dep> Meta
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[20:55:50] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: iirc, the hardest one is polish, but hungarian sounds hard too, (these with latin letters) , elsewhere chinese...yeah.ee
[20:56:53] <zinid> > The nouns can be declined with 18 case suffixes
Bingo! That's hungarian
[20:58:08] <Holger> Yes Hungarian is insane.
[20:58:13] <Holger> Like Finnish.
[20:58:37] <rom1dep> Some, (if not most?) minor Indian dialects were made up for the sole purpose of obfuscation, there must be some tough stuff there too
[20:58:49] <zinid> 18 cases, like... really? what the fuck is wrong with them???
[21:00:00] <zinid> english has zero cases (well, except him/his etc)
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[21:21:53] <stigger> cases by themselves is not the biggest problem. german has less cases than russian, but randomized genders of nouns make it extremely difficult to produce an arbitrary grammatically correct sentence for a non-native speaker.
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[21:27:16] <zinid> stigger, I think Russian has also randomized genders
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[21:27:26] <zinid> you need to teach every word
[21:27:50] <zinid> you can probably rely on the suffix, but not always
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