Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, July 28, 2018< ^ >
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[08:58:33] <zinid> so I benchmarked MQTT a bit, and it consumes 10 times less memory than XMPP
[08:58:42] <zinid> 10 fucking times
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[09:12:38] <rom1dep> If that's the difference between statefull and stateless, that ain't too bad, is it?
[09:13:21] <zinid> MQTT is pretty much statefull, it has session resumption by default (unless explicitly disabled)
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[15:43:36] <rom1dep> !version creep.im
[15:43:37] <Servant> rom1dep: creep.im is running ejabberd version 18.01 on unix/linux 4.9.0
[15:43:54] <rom1dep> #old #legacy #vintage #unmaintained
[15:46:02] <Holger> Hehe.
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[15:51:20] <rom1dep> !version kode.im
[15:51:23] <Servant> rom1dep: kode.im is running Prosody version 0.10.2 on Linux
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[15:56:48] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: I'll ping the admin of creep once jabber.at has 18.06 in repos
[15:57:12] <rom1dep> Licaon_Kter: why that?
[15:57:31] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: iirc, they were using that
[15:58:58] <rom1dep> I'd rather chose a public server that compiles from source
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[16:08:29] <Holger> That criterion sounds weird to me :-)  But if they're on Debian stretch I'd recommend debalance's backport instead.
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[16:12:06] <Holger> And "unix/linux 4.9.0" sounds like this *is* stretch.
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[16:14:13] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: depends, if you have users on different timezones it's hard to find *the right time to fk them up with .88 update*
[16:14:29] <rom1dep> Holger: if one runs something public it may perhaps be good not to have to rely on some third packager to apply bugfixes and security patches, or largely speaking, any kind of customization that may be unexpectedly necessary
[16:14:37] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: oh my bad, you said source...I thought git 😂
[16:14:47] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: true
[16:17:41] <Licaon_Kter> rom1dep: also source brings more lib deps, more CPU time for compile, more involvement for something that maybe the admin wants to just _fire and forget_ (usually)
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[16:18:24] <rom1dep> yeah, that's acceptable for private stuff. Not for a service you advertise publicly
[16:18:37] <Holger> rom1dep: Sounds good in theory, and we actually do compile our stuff ourselves for that reason and others.  But I think you'll have a hard time finding admins that work this way these days.  You'll find admins that compile themselves and then never update, or admins that rely on packages and keep *them* up to date.
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[16:19:00] <Holger> Or admins that rely on packages and don't even update those of course :-)
[16:19:19] <rom1dep> I'm so edgy :)
[16:20:59] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: "CPU time for compile", not everyone runs public services on Raspberry Pi :-)
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[16:28:15] <Link Mauve> At JabberFR and on my personal machines I do a mix of both, I use prebuilt packages from the repositories for core things or tools I don’t care too much about, and build packages of the master/trunk branch of software I follow actively.
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[16:29:07] <Link Mauve> Also building packages for all of our custom stuff, to make it easy to deploy it again elsewhere.
[16:31:15] <Holger> > I use prebuilt packages from the repositories for core things
Yes, same here, we don't compile the OS from scratch :-)
[16:31:50] <zinid> actually 18.01 is a recommended version for production, so don't blame those guys ;)
[16:32:12] <zinid> at least much better than 18.06.88 :)
[16:32:21] <Holger> !version conversations.im
[16:32:22] <Servant> Holger: conversations.im is running ejabberd version 18.06.82-conversations.im on unix/linux 4.9.0
[16:32:43] <Holger> *phew*
[16:33:49] <zinid> Holger, https://github.com/processone/xmpp/commit/52707a2261f91cca1e59e032ada4c40983183f08
[16:34:21] <zinid> and previous one for _in.erl
[16:34:41] <zinid> https://github.com/processone/xmpp/commit/8bf26b9e208bd0059cd8fd4e6593d88548c136cf
[16:35:32] <Holger> Yes I've seen those commits.  You mean I want them?
[16:36:20] <zinid> only if you want to have the log full of "unexpected message: {socket, closed}"
[16:37:10] <Holger> Ah, yes I've seen Licaon_Kter's issue and already wondered whether these commits are the culprit :-)
[16:39:04] <zinid> but you're the risky guy, using cutting edge in production...
[16:39:25] <zinid> especially when I refactored the libraries a lot not so long ago :)
[16:39:27] <Link Mauve> Cutting edge is the best edge. :)
[16:40:24] <Holger> Well in the special case of ejabberd I believe I can usually cope with potential issues.  For the other services we operated at work, I usually compile the current official release.
[16:40:53] <zinid> yeah, I know, just trolling ;)
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[19:45:16] <Holger> !version process-one.net
[19:45:20] <Servant> Holger: process-one.net is running ejabberd version 18.4.0 on unix/linux 4.9.10
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[20:35:46] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> !version emevth.no-ip.biz
[20:35:49] <Servant> ThUnD3r|Gr33n®: emevth.no-ip.biz is running ejabberd version 18.06.1 on unix/linux 3.4.113
[20:36:09] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> !uptime emevth.no-ip.biz
[20:36:10] <Servant> ThUnD3r|Gr33n®: emevth.no-ip.biz has been running for 20 days, 1 hour and 12 minutes
[20:36:14] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> Wooooooooo
[20:36:22] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n®> !version
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