Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, September 10, 2018< ^ >
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Room Configuration
Room Occupants

GMT+0
[00:04:35] ChaosKid42 leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[00:04:44] alexis leaves the room
[00:05:13] lorddavidiii leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:05:39] lorddavidiii leaves the room: Stream reset by peer
[00:06:44] alexis leaves the room
[00:11:32] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:14:04] genofire leaves the room: Machine going to sleep
[00:14:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:17:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:23:35] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:26:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:27:56] beri leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[00:29:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:32:32] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:35:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:38:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:41:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:44:17] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[00:44:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:47:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:50:11] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[00:50:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[00:53:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:03:02] zinid leaves the room
[01:09:03] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[01:09:23] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:19:23] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:23:04] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:26:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:28:01] Alacer leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[01:28:28] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:30:39] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:31:21] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[01:32:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:35:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:38:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:43:10] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[01:44:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:47:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:50:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:50:54] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[01:53:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:56:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[01:59:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:02:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:05:34] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:05:55] zinid leaves the room
[02:08:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:11:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:11:33] chrys leaves the room
[02:14:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:17:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:20:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:23:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:26:10] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[02:26:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:27:02] jere leaves the room
[02:29:02] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:32:31] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:35:29] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:36:51] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:38:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:39:52] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:41:31] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:44:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:50:26] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:52:29] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[02:54:31] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[02:54:44] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[02:55:23] vogt leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[02:59:55] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:06:01] alexis leaves the room
[03:07:11] zinid leaves the room
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[03:09:10] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[03:09:20] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:11:31] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:20:48] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:21:15] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:24:24] alexis leaves the room
[03:25:54] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:30:36] Odin leaves the room
[03:31:25] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:32:30] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:36:34] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:37:43] ave leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:38:54] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[03:44:16] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:44:56] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:45:47] alexis leaves the room
[03:52:50] Alacer leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[03:59:05] Antartida leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:05:35] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:10:06] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:24:07] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[04:25:53] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[04:31:02] Antartida leaves the room: unknown reason
[04:31:48] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:34:47] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:37:47] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:39:15] nekit leaves the room
[04:40:47] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:42:29] sergio leaves the room
[04:43:47] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:46:10] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:49:48] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[04:54:21] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:00:08] Odin leaves the room
[05:02:41] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:03:51] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:07:52] spicewiesel leaves the room: Machine going to sleep
[05:10:18] jr leaves the room
[05:20:59] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:21:02] adrien leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[05:24:38] alexis leaves the room
[05:26:25] jeremy leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:28:24] sergio leaves the room
[05:31:32] alexis leaves the room
[05:33:07] spicewiesel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:35:20] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:40:29] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:42:49] vogt leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:46:17] alexis leaves the room
[05:55:25] jc leaves the room: Disconnected: closed
[05:57:01] jc leaves the room
[05:57:16] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[05:58:25] alexis leaves the room
[05:59:09] Antartida leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[05:59:17] jc leaves the room: Disconnected: closed
[05:59:24] jc leaves the room
[06:00:13] jc leaves the room
[06:03:06] jc leaves the room
[06:04:57] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:05:29] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:06:54] UsL leaves the room
[06:08:41] jr leaves the room
[06:09:43] Man_Life leaves the room
[06:12:16] \(*.*)/ leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:14:48] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:15:07] Andrew Nenakhov leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:16:32] Andrew Nenakhov leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[06:19:28] Dominik Paulus leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:22:58] daniel leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:26:22] adrien leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:27:23] ChaosKid42 leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:29:37] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[06:32:41] jannic leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:37:57] nico leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:39:02] alexis leaves the room
[06:40:52] madmalkav leaves the room
[06:44:43] zinid leaves the room
[06:51:38] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:54:35] sergio leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:55:19] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[06:58:34] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[06:58:38] Holger leaves the room
[07:06:08] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:06:50] alexis leaves the room
[07:07:11] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:07:26] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:07:33] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:07:41] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:08:06] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:08:35] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:08:59] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:09:26] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:11:17] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:12:09] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:12:25] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:12:32] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:13:03] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:13:29] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:14:18] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:14:43] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:15:10] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:15:41] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:16:16] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:16:25] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:17:20] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:17:50] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:18:13] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:18:32] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:18:55] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:19:22] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:19:28] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[07:19:48] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:20:36] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:20:59] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:21:24] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:21:46] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:23:06] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:23:22] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:23:49] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:24:10] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:24:14] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:24:37] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:25:00] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:25:23] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:25:43] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:26:08] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:26:24] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[07:26:39] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:27:08] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:28:01] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:31:12] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:33:20] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:33:50] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:34:16] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:34:22] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:35:11] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:37:25] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:37:48] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:38:16] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:38:22] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[07:39:12] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:39:26] paul leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:39:33] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:39:34] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:39:57] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:40:30] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:41:58] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:42:07] aditya_borikar leaves the room
[07:42:22] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:42:27] fuvuv leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:42:31] mimi89999 leaves the room
[07:42:57] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:43:25] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:44:59] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:45:02] adrien leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[07:45:23] alexis leaves the room
[07:45:23] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:45:53] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:45:58] alexis leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:46:17] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:52:03] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:52:04] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:52:34] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:52:53] fp leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:52:58] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:54:07] xinit leaves the room
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[07:55:23] aditya_borikar leaves the room
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[07:57:58] focus121 leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[07:58:22] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[07:59:11] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[07:59:35] SouL leaves the room
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[07:59:59] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[08:00:12] sindrake leaves the room
[08:00:23] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[08:03:06] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[08:03:19] aditya_borikar leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[08:03:35] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[08:08:47] genofire leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[08:09:27] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
[08:09:59] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[08:11:28] debalance leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Timed out waiting for stream resumption (connection-timeout)
[08:11:57] Dominik Paulus leaves the room: Stream closed by us: Replaced by new connection (conflict)
[08:11:58] rom1dep leaves the room: Connection failed: connection closed
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[08:43:00] <zinid> ha, seems like VLAs in C are considered slow and Linux kernel developers are getting rid of them
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[08:43:21] <zinid> I only started to use them, LOL
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[08:53:39] <Holger> They were made optional in C11 after being mandatory in C99 ...
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[08:54:33] <zinid> meh
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[08:55:22] <Holger> But I don't see them being used much in C code.  An obvious downside is that you can't handle OOM gracefully.
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[08:55:47] <Holger> But I guess the real reason is just that compiler vendors were too lazy.
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[08:56:23] <zinid> well I used them for small chunks of data, typically below 1k
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[08:57:44] <zinid> and I frankly don't understand how malloc() can be more efficient in such usage
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[08:58:11] <Holger> Yeah I'd say it's fine to use VLAs in userland programs targetted at gcc/clang (IIRC Microsoft doesn't support them).
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[08:58:34] <Holger> But I see why you wouldn't want them in kernel code.
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[08:59:03] <zinid> yeah
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[09:00:04] <Holger> Oh and C++ doesn't support them, so it'll only work with pure C code.
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[09:04:14] <zinid> I don't care about C++ :)
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[11:12:25] <fuvuv> How to configure a public group that automatically joins when a new user installs the app
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[11:13:42] <Licaon_Kter> fuvuv: what app? Or you mean user joins server?
[11:14:22] <fuvuv> Licaon_Kter: yes when user join my xmpp server
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[11:51:02] <zinid> fuvuv, you cannot do that easily
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[12:02:28] <fuvuv> zinid: I have seen in some server...Is there any configuration in ejabberd for doing that?
[12:02:39] <zinid> fuvuv: no
[12:02:54] <fuvuv> zinid: okay..
[12:02:59] <rom1dep> > fuvuv, you cannot do that easily
Same need here.
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[14:38:40] <Licaon_Kter> _you have been warned!_
https://mobile.twitter.com/tompatulpan/status/1038415242592772098
[14:39:08] <flow> "server connections to local subdomains are forbidden", can I somehow allow them?
[14:39:22] <flow> ups sorry
[14:39:59] <flow> zinid, Holger: If it *was* a rfc3920 requirement, but is no longer, isn't it time to allow them by default then?
[14:41:22] <zinid> flow, we discussed this a few days ago here in this room ;)
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[14:41:29] <zinid> flow, tl;dr - yes, it's the time :)
[14:41:40] <flow> \o/
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[14:45:02] <flow> FYI I'm having a hard time understanding what https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/configuration/ wants to tell me about route_subdomains
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[14:45:38] <flow> I'm happy to send a patch if it is possible, but first I need to understand exactly what the knob does
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[14:46:25] <flow> is 'local' the default for route_subdomains?
[14:47:00] <zinid> flow, I'm going to ditch the option completely
[14:47:14] <flow> That would have been my second question
[14:47:47] <flow> If the service is able to locally route it, then it should do so, and if not, it should do a standard s2s route
[14:48:11] <zinid> this is how it's done if this option is set to s2s
[14:48:26] <zinid> that's not me who implemented this option, I actually disagree with it too
[14:48:32] <zinid> it's really silly shit
[14:49:03] <zinid> I think there was a discussion in XSF mail list a long time ago
[14:49:05] <flow> I think what is confusion about the current documentation of the setting is that I believe it describes the behavior if it is set to s2s
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[14:49:38] <flow> While on a first look I thought that the first part of the description sentence describes what happens if it is set to 'local'
[14:49:52] <flow> *confusing
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[14:50:46] <Holger> To be fair ejabberd's original behavior was 's2s', and then it was made optional for 3920-compliance.
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[14:51:44] <flow> To be even more fair, xmpp s2s routing is underdocumented btw
[14:51:48] <Holger> ('local' is a MUST in 3920.  Completely stupid.)
[14:52:13] <flow> I believe Openfire had (or still has) code which would iterate the dns labels when it attempts to deliver a stanza to remote
[14:53:07] <flow> so if you send a stanza to foo@bar.baz.org, it would first try to connect to bar.baz.org and, if it fails, try to deliver the stanza to the service providing baz.org
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[14:53:37] <flow> s/btw/imho/
[14:53:44] <zinid> that's retarded
[14:54:13] <zinid> and a security issue
[14:54:58] <flow> dunno if that is the word I would use to describe it, it is likely comming from subdomains providing XMPP services like MUC which are hosted also by the service hosting the domain
[14:55:07] <flow> and I'm not sure if it is a security issue
[14:55:26] <Holger> flow: BTW yes the documentation is a bit meh, and obviously there was an s/3920/6120/ :-)  But the first part of the sentence *does* try to describe 'local' behavior.
[14:55:29] <flow> after all, doesn't your parent domain always control your whole subdomain?
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[14:56:39] <Holger> You mean in the sense that DENIC controls all .de domains?
[14:56:40] <flow> Holger, ok, then I'm just confused and happy that the option is going to disappear and have now set it to 's2s' because you told me so
[14:56:46] <flow> Holger, yep
[14:57:17] <flow> this holds for DANE of course, but not for standard PKI TLS certs
[14:57:54] <flow> I'm not sure which service name openfire would use in such a case
[14:58:01] <flow> for certificate verification
[14:58:41] <flow> if it would verify the certificate provided by baz.org against bar.baz.org, i don't see a security issue with that
[14:59:28] <flow> not saying that we should endorse that behavior, but I see some upsides
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[15:37:44] <4rm0ur> are there chatlogs stored for this room anywhere online?
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[15:39:36] <zinid> 4rm0ur, yes
[15:39:51] <4rm0ur> what is the url?
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[15:40:22] <zinid> https://process-one.net/logs/ejabberd@conference.process-one.net/
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[15:40:58] <4rm0ur> excellent, thank you
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[16:34:10] <zinid> > Facebook had $20.4 billion in operating expenses in 2017. Less than 1/3 of that was the cost of its 25,000 employees (at the end of 2017). Facebook is spending more on its infrastructure than it is on all of its employees combined (and that much more when you reduce it to just engineers). Engineers are maybe 1/5 of its operating costs, including their all-in costs.
So hardware is cheap, no need for good engineers, no need to optimize software they said...
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[17:15:38] <Licaon_Kter> It's all ansible/chef/terraform/bash 🤷
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[17:18:17] <zuglufttier> It's not a big difference if you have to install 100 or 1.000 new servers.
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[17:18:42] <zuglufttier> It only changes once you stop doing it by hand ;)
[17:20:38] <zinid> dunno about installation, but for me as a server dev 100 vs 1000 makes a lot of difference ;)
[17:20:57] <zinid> the cluster of 100 servers is much easier to implement than for 1000 :)
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[17:21:29] <zinid> for 100 you can still use full-star topology with full replication
[17:21:45] <Licaon_Kter> _orchestration_
[17:21:52] <zinid> but this won't work or will be started to slow down in 1000 nodes
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[17:26:04] <L29Ah> 19:28:20]---  has entered as /
[17:26:04] <L29Ah> an ejabberd update brings spies to MUCs!
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[17:27:41] <Licaon_Kter> L29Ah: 🤷
[17:28:26] <L29Ah> sadly my XMPP client doesn't support Unicode character outside of the Basic Multilingual Plane :<
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[17:29:06] <Licaon_Kter> L29Ah: sed based client, I hope!?
[17:29:16] <L29Ah> almost
[17:29:18] <L29Ah> tkabber
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[17:36:59] <zinid> L29Ah, tkabber is dead
[17:37:18] <zinid> and the spy is the muc itself sending self-presences ;)
[17:37:22] <L29Ah> yet it's still the best laptop xmpp client around :(
[17:37:34] <Licaon_Kter> L29Ah: best is relative
[17:37:49] <L29Ah> what XEP governs MUCs sending self-presences?
[17:37:52] <zinid> gajim is better, but that doesn't mean it's not shit ;)
[17:38:10] <zinid> L29Ah, where is it prohibited to send presences?
[17:38:28] <L29Ah> https://github.com/l29ah/misc/blob/master/suck/xmpp-clients#L38 no gajim is horrible
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[17:39:20] <L29Ah> absolutely unusable for anyone but autists that don't use MUCs
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[17:42:19] <zinid> L29Ah: the current state of xmpp clients is whether you can accept some of the bugs for the sake of features you need
[17:42:25] <L29Ah> <presence to='l29ah@bitcheese.net/tkabber-x201'
    from='freebitcheese@conference.bitcheese.net'
    id='8055611190977962880'>
  <c ver='g5nsHKEe3B6OoY21zaFNt/5lnJU='
    node='http://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/'
    hash='sha-1'
    xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/caps'/>
</presence>
[17:42:37] <L29Ah> i guess this is what tkabber is pissed about
[17:42:43] <zinid> L29Ah: yea
[17:45:19] <L29Ah> yeah, the XEP doesn't seem to forbid anything; i wonder if it will be ok to just drop anything that doesn't have an affiliation or a /resource attached, or smth
[17:46:08] <L29Ah> // what does this stanza mean, anyway?
[17:47:39] <zinid> L29Ah: this is in order to provide vcard hash and caps
[17:48:00] <zinid> L29Ah: so clients can track muc avatar updates
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[17:48:53] <L29Ah> i see, thx
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[17:50:00] <L29Ah> is there a XEP or something i can refer?
[17:50:12] <L29Ah> except ejabberd sources :3
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[17:54:09] <flow> L29Ah  https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-avatars.html
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[18:38:50] <Holger> Well this XEP is different in that it uses <message/>s rather than <presence/>, precisely to make Tkabber & friends happy :-)
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[18:39:39] <Holger> L29Ah: ejabberd just does plain XEP-0153 using the MUC JID.
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[18:43:08] <flow> ahh, now I understand why I got vetoed
[18:43:57] <Holger> Vetoed on what?
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[18:48:20] <flow> Holger, we are talking about the configuration change notification, right?
[18:48:36] <Holger> Yes.
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[18:49:54] <flow> And which spec uses <presence/> for that, so that inbox/muc-avatars.html is different using <message/>?
[18:52:01] <Holger> XEP-0153
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[18:56:18] <flow> ok, sam vetoed the protoxep for other reasons, and I thought again about using <message/> vs <presence/>. I know see that many clients would behave just like tkabber when receiving a presence from the MUCs bare JID
[18:56:23] <flow> *now
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[18:57:51] <Holger> Yes a few clients did that, some of those were already fixed.
[18:58:04] <flow> hmm it will emit a warning
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[18:58:34] <flow> going to fix that for the 4.3.1 release if presence from muc bare jid becomes a thing
[18:58:53] <flow> s/fix/stop doing/
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[19:23:20] <zinid> Backward compatibility sucks
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[19:24:19] <Voker57> that's why ejabberd doesn't bother with it and I have to update config every release?
[19:24:46] <zinid> Voker57: every release?
[19:24:57] <Voker57> more or less
[19:25:29] <zinid> Voker57: do you know that I can here for bullshit?
[19:25:42] <zinid> *I ban here
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[19:27:57] <zinid> So you either bring the example of incompatibility from release to release or get the fuck out here
[19:28:59] <Voker57> 2017-11-16 13:03:07.772 [error] <0.236.0>@gen_mod:validate_opts:529 unknown option 'access_create' for module 'mod_muc_log' will be likely ignored, available options are: outdir, file_permissions, file_format, timezone, dirtype, dirname, cssfile, access_log, top_link, spam_prevention
[19:30:35] <zinid> Voker57: from release to release please
[19:30:46] <Voker57> sorry here's fatal one
2018-09-05 13:31:13.675 [error] <0.345.0>@gen_mod:module_error:571 Unknown option 'access_admin' of module 'mod_muc_log', available options are: outdir, file_permissions, file_format, timezone, dirtype, dirname, cssfile, access_log, top_link, spam_prevention
[19:31:04] <Voker57> what do you mean? It broke when I updated from release to release
[19:31:35] <zinid> Fuck you're dumb
[19:31:42] <Voker57> :0
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[19:35:34] <Licaon_Kter> Voker57: unknown options error out, yes, see the release logs
[19:36:13] <Licaon_Kter> Voker57: the one with fixing needs are you 😋
Why keep unknown options in config?🙅
[19:36:32] <Licaon_Kter> L29Ah: Why do russians love Tkabber?🙅
[19:38:27] <L29Ah> because only russians loved xmpp back when tkabber was popular?
[19:38:47] <L29Ah> also it was written by russians afair
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[19:39:58] <L29Ah> are there popular english language XMPP servers with lots of MUCs btw?
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[19:45:33] <zinid> L29Ah: xmpp is now German protocol
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[19:46:53] <zinid> So mostly German rooms only 😀
[19:47:13] <zinid> Oops, sorry for emoji, tkabber doesn't render them
[19:47:14] <daniel> The new fancy default config doesn't do scram? Was that a deliberate decision?
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[19:49:53] <zinid> daniel: yes
[19:50:33] <zinid> You can always go from plain to scram but not vice versa
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[19:51:45] <zinid> also scram is not compatible with stun/sip/ldap and we tired to explain that
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[19:53:29] <daniel> OK. Thanks. Speaking of stun by the way. It seems it only takes the user name for Auth (according to the doc. It wants a specific vhost). So if I want to use it in a vhost environment do I need to setup multiple stun server?
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[19:56:00] <Link Mauve> L29Ah, have you reported your issue with lots of bookmarks to the Gajim devs?  I use it with (currently) 89 MUC bookmarks and it works ok.
[19:56:32] <Link Mauve> It also has a new GPG plugin based on XEP-0374, check it out.
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[19:57:32] <zinid> daniel, no, it takes vhost as realm
[19:57:44] <zinid> daniel, STUN authentication consists of username and realm
[19:57:53] <zinid> so vhosts are supported out of the box
[19:59:08] <zinid> L29Ah, speaking of tkabber: I like it too and and struggled a lot by finally surrended and swithed to gajim, lol
[19:59:35] <zinid> carbons+mam is killer feature for me
[20:00:03] <zinid> and tkabber supports none of them (if we don't count buggy third-party plugin for carbons written by vt)
[20:00:28] <daniel> Oh I think I was talking about turn
[20:00:40] <zinid> daniel, turn is an extension for stun ;)
[20:00:45] <zinid> daniel, the auth is the same
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[20:01:07] <zinid> turn for stun is like proxy65 for xmpp
[20:02:22] <daniel> > auth_realm: String: When auth_type is set to user and you have several virtual hosts configured you should set this option explicitly to the virtual host you want to serve on this particular listening port.
i read this as this config option has to be set and  on that port i can only login with users from that domain
[20:02:44] <zinid> ah
[20:02:46] <zinid> wait
[20:03:01] <zinid> damn, seems like I was bullshitting you
[20:03:02] <zinid> indeed
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[20:03:31] <zinid> it was implemented 10 years ago, so I kinda forgot ;)
[20:03:47] <daniel> ok. thanks
[20:03:58] <daniel> do you happen to know if this is a limitation in stun/turn?
[20:04:21] <daniel> or is this something that could potentially be fixed in ejabberd
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[20:04:46] <zinid> I forgot :/
[20:04:49] <zinid> let me check
[20:05:22] <daniel> ok. no worries. not really importent. i just stumpled over this a couple of days ago and then got reminded of it when you mentioned stun
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[20:07:06] <Holger> I think the REALM is typically server-provided.
[20:07:50] <Holger> I.e. I don't think you can let the client select a vhost, or at least it's not done that way in practice.  So you do need a STUN listener per vhost if you want authentication (and/or TLS).
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[20:09:36] <zinid> Holger is right, the server provides it along with generated nonce
[20:09:48] <Holger> The server
> the user a realm (used to guide the user or agent in selection of a username and password) and a nonce.
[20:09:53] <zinid> then a client forms message integrity and sends a challenge
[20:09:54] <Holger> You were faster as usual.
[20:09:56] <zinid> *response
[20:10:13] <Holger> > The server *provides* the user a realm ...
[20:10:25] <zinid> yep
[20:10:56] <zinid> yeah, this http-like authentication is terrible outdated...
[20:11:05] <zinid> *terribly
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[20:13:40] <zinid>    If the client has not completed a successful request/response
   transaction with the server (as identified by hostname, if the DNS
   procedures of Section 9 are used, else IP address if not), it SHOULD
   omit the USERNAME, MESSAGE-INTEGRITY, REALM, and NONCE attributes.
   In other words, the very first request is sent as if there were no
   authentication or message integrity applied.
[20:14:18] <zinid> Once a request/response transaction has completed successfully, the
   client will have been presented a realm and nonce by the server, and
   selected a username and password with which it authenticated.
[20:14:45] <zinid> there is SHOULD!!!
[20:14:51] <zinid> See what I mean? :)
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[20:15:18] <zinid> ok, I mean a client can actually provide a REALM
[20:15:31] <zinid> this will only violate SHOULD
[20:15:32] <Holger> That's why I said "at least it's not done that way in practice" :-)
[20:15:36] <Holger> Right.
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[20:16:50] <Holger> Haskell is super-fancy and all.  As long as you don't try compiling (let alone running) it.
[20:17:17] <Holger> Compiling pandoc + dependencies on my 8G box using cabal failed with OOM.
[20:17:33] <zinid> well, its type system became so complicated, I can bear it anymore :(
[20:17:39] <zinid> *can't
[20:17:43] <zinid> damn, I'm mistyping a lot
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[20:19:15] <Holger> Dunno I forgot most of it actually.  Haven't used it in years.
[20:19:33] <Holger> But I did like the language back then.
[20:19:47] <Holger> Liking Haskell is your job though, you're the math guy.
[20:19:49] <zinid> yeah, I also didn't find where I can use it in practice
[20:19:56] <Holger> That
[20:20:09] <Holger> That's the other problem with the language :-)
[20:20:18] <Holger> Compilers!
[20:20:20] <zinid> even if I find something it's still easier to use OCaml, lol
[20:20:40] <zinid> nah, true men write compilers in ocaml
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[20:20:59] <Holger> True story.
[20:21:59] <zinid> but yeah, Elm compiler is written in haskell for example ;)
[20:22:05] <zinid> and it's blazing fast
[20:22:25] <zinid> not sure about OOM though :D
[20:23:39] <zinid> I'm going to write web interface for RTB in Elm btw
[20:24:07] <zinid> of course I will generate javascript and html and will ship it, Elm won't be a requirement
[20:24:23] <Holger> Sweet :-)
[20:24:34] <Holger> The Wire server is written in Haskell though.
[20:24:36] <Holger> In Berlin!
[20:24:38] <zinid> I compared Opa and Elm and Elm looks better
[20:24:57] <Holger> (But I'd be surprised if they didn't already regret their language choice.)
[20:25:04] <zinid> hehe
[20:25:14] <Holger> Opa, never heard of it.
[20:25:35] <zinid> http://opalang.org/
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[20:26:01] <zinid> what I don't like in Opa is html patterns, hate this shit
[20:26:24] <zinid> like let x = <div>blah</div>
[20:27:15] <Holger> Eww.
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[20:28:50] <zinid> also Elm provides real reactive programming: you just need to write state and mutators and it will regenerate needed parts of html and all other things, fancy shit
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[21:18:28] <Holger> I now tried on a server with 32G RAM, "cabal: out of memory", WTF ...
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[21:21:42] <flow> Holger, "The Wire server"?
[21:22:14] <Holger> flow: https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server
[21:22:47] <flow> Holger, ta
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[21:24:55] <zinid> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wireapp/wire-server/develop/doc/arch/wire-arch-2.png
[21:25:07] <zinid> you're going to install all these? ^^^^
[21:25:13] <flow> at some point I've lost the overview of all those different collaborating platforms, does slack still exist?
[21:25:56] <zinid> flow, yes
[21:26:05] <zinid> alas :(
[21:26:09] <Holger> I've used Slack for the first time a week ago or so!
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[21:29:05] <zinid> I tried it a few years ago
[21:29:25] <zinid> opened empty window, no contacts, nothing, looked at it and closed
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[21:30:47] <zinid> funny, the doc says you need haskell and rust to build it, but "restund" is written in Go
[21:30:52] <zinid> surprise motherfucker!
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[21:31:57] <zinid> ah no, Go is needed for docker or something
[21:32:17] <Holger> You need everything.
[21:32:34] <Holger> And when you finally compile the server, you run out of memory.
[21:32:41] <zinid> yeah, the building process is cumbersome as fuck
[21:32:58] <zinid> the typical shit, you see this all the time when joining a new company :)
[21:33:56] <zinid> everything should be done manually, the documentation is moot and is typically outdated
[21:34:27] <Holger> I don't think they want you to install it, they want their marketing to sell it being Open Source.
[21:34:37] <Holger> I mean sell the app ...
[21:35:07] <Holger> > Documentation on how to self host your own Wire-Server is not yet available but is planned. Federation is on our long term roadmap.
[21:35:13] <zinid> yes, definitely, but I think they have the same pain you have, especially newcomers of their company :)
[21:35:31] <Holger> True :-)
[21:36:16] <zinid> in this sense opensource tones you up: if noone can build your program then noone will use it ;)
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