Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Monday, September 17, 2018< ^ >
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[06:00:52] <zinid> Holger, after thinking about printing hints in the console, I incline to actually just print a link to the corresponding section of FAQ
[06:01:08] <zinid> and we need to maintain the FAQ
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[06:04:09] <zinid> Holger, btw, I have weird error:
```
08:55:56.990 [critical] Module mod_http_upload returned unexpected value from start/2:
** Error: {error,{already_started,<0.468.0>}}
** Hint: this is either not an ejabberd module or it implements ejabbed API incorrectly
```
[06:04:33] <zinid> config:
```
  mod_http_upload:
    put_url: "http://localhost:5280/upload"
    get_url: "http://localhost:5280/upload"
```
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[06:05:19] <zinid> ah, that's because I have two virtual hosts
[06:05:29] <zinid> well, anyway, the error is not obvious
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[06:21:44] <Holger> Ah right, I wanted to fix that.
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[06:25:07] <Holger> Will fix it this evening.
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[06:35:18] <zinid> Holger, thanks :)
[06:35:31] <zinid> Holger, btw, I refactored listening API, lmao
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[07:44:18] <Holger> Yay.
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[08:24:37] <zinid> just commited...
[08:24:38] <zinid> let's see
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[09:18:49] <Licaon_Kter> zinid:
> isn't briar only able to add new contacts via Bluetooth?
Looks like they're working to be able to add contacts without meeting in person 🤔
[09:19:13] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: is the CI ok failing those tests?
[09:20:06] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, there is a problem with travis, our internal CI is ok
[09:21:09] <Holger> Race conditions ...
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[09:25:13] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: 👍
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[10:16:35] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: 137 changes since 18.06, is 18.09 on track?
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[10:18:43] <zinid> I don't know :/
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[11:09:59] <Licaon_Kter> Russians be riceists
https://vagabond.github.io/rants/2018/02/12/of-communities-and-bikesheds
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[11:42:04] <zinid> Licaon_Kter: tl;dr
[11:42:29] <zinid> Someone butthurting about names?
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[11:50:00] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yeah, aparently words are violence
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[11:50:51] <zinid> Yeah, I will probably never understand this
[11:51:43] <zinid> There is a huge bikeshedding thread about Linus at HN btw, I cannot read that shit too
[11:52:51] <zinid> Like, he is an asshole and insults people and stuff like that
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[11:59:10] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: old news? /close as duplicate
[11:59:32] <zinid> 😁
[12:01:46] <Holger> zinid: But he gave up and promised to be a nice guy now!!
[12:02:05] <zinid> Holger: yeah sure 😉
[12:02:23] <Holger> https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/9/16/167
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[12:04:55] <Holger> Seems he made the mistake of letting the kernel maintainers meet up without him, and then the sheep revolted.
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[12:11:54] <Licaon_Kter> Hmm 🤔 if Linus can't swear ad bad patches....things...have...changed
[12:12:04] <Licaon_Kter> *at
[12:16:55] <Holger> Yeah reads a bit like an April's Fool posting.  email filter for blocking curse-words ...
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[12:25:21] <Licaon_Kter> It's nice to be nice
The problem is that when he says _"your code is shit"_ people read *"YOU....SHIT"*, missing the point
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[12:33:33] <MattJ> Licaon_Kter, the problem wasn't that he swore at patches, it's that he swore at people
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[12:34:17] <Licaon_Kter> MattJ: someone wrote them, yes
[12:34:33] <MattJ> I think there is a line between helpful criticism of code, and unhelpful criticism of individuals
[12:35:08] <zinid> All his rantings I read actually made sense, the code was really shit
[12:35:20] <zinid> Not that I read all his rants
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[12:36:50] <zinid> And his fucks to Nvidia were great 😁
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[14:29:14] <flow> MattJ, I think it is possibly also a cultural thing. I personally read a mail from linux where I thought afterwards that he went to far, which, in turn, does *not* mean that I would have reacted/wrote the same.
[14:30:48] <flow> The main question is, if such a behavior is beneficial to the project or not. I am not entirely sure that it is not. Which, again, doesn't mean that other people from other FOSS projects behave the same way for benefit.
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[14:32:47] <flow> But the typical stance of a kernel maintainer is that they don't want your patches. As contributor you have to make them want your contributions. And I could see how being explicit about the state of your contribution and your behavior is potential beneficial.
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[14:34:29] <MattJ> "This code is not acceptable for the following reasons:" is vastly different to "What kind of idiot would write this code??!"
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[14:35:45] <flow> totally agree
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[14:46:46] <Holger> I think personal attacks can be quite effective with teaching people to not bother you with low-quality patches again :-)  The flip side is that it might drive away potential contributors of course.
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[14:48:31] <Holger> But I dunno, different people/communities just behave in different ways and I don't see endless code-of-conduct discussions changing anything about this, so people should just cope.  Even though Linus tries to prove me wrong right now.
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[15:46:55] <madmalkav> If I want to listen in port 5223 exactly like in 5222 , I can't add a port to the current definition for 5222, right? I need to create a new entry for 5223 with the same config
[15:49:14] <Holger> Right.
[15:49:40] <Holger> The only thing you can do is define macros with the values for both listeners to avoid duplication.
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[15:53:00] <madmalkav> Thanks for the clarification
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[21:23:59] <Holger> Hmm seems logging is still weirdo with OTP 21.
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[21:36:59] <zinid> Holger, yeah
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[21:43:30] <edhelas> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18010377
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[21:53:01] <Licaon_Kter> edhelas: preach sensei preach 👼
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