Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Saturday, November 24, 2018< ^ >
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[08:58:39] <flow> I think the main problem of the MIX spec is that it could been better written. It doesn't matter if it consists of 7 XEPs or one big one. Or if there are 5 or 50 features. But it should be clear which features are optional (as many as possible IMHO), ideally with a rationale.
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[09:00:47] <flow> And yes, if MIX isn't mostly-pure PubSub+PAM, then PubSub should probably not have been used at all. But the PAM part is important and the reason we need support from the user's/joining server. That is why I'm fine with that tradeoff
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[11:50:33] <MattJ> daniel, the text under example 24: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#example-24
[11:50:46] <MattJ> "After sending the presence broadcast (and only after doing so), the service MAY then send discussion history, the room subject, live messages, presence updates, and other in-room traffic."
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[11:51:05] <MattJ> I'm pretty certain only MUST can work here
[11:58:24] <daniel> MattJ: I don't think this paragraph only refers to nick rewrites but to the entire joining process
[11:58:37] <daniel> No matter if a rewrite has happened
[11:58:51] <daniel> One can argue that the wording isn't great
[11:59:15] <daniel> But I don't think it negatively influences a forced rewrite
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[12:00:40] <daniel> I understand that as: may Send if a subject is set and if there is history
[12:01:49] <daniel> But yes one could create a PR to change this into a must or something
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[12:03:00] <daniel> Also live presence and history can be surpressed in a room. So a must would be confusing as well
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[12:04:46] <daniel> Also the entire server side rewrite isn't optional or anything. A muc client has to support it. And if it doesn't I'm sorry but your client has a bug
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[18:28:12] <Neustradamus> https://check.messaging.one/ is redirected to xmpp.net which is breaked, have you solutions?
[18:30:40] <zinid> Neustradamus: no
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[18:32:05] <Neustradamus> It is possible to change check?
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