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ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, February 27, 2019< ^ >
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[07:14:22] <zinid> rom1dep: full crash from crash.log please
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[07:14:49] <rom1dep> zinid: you'll get it when I reach a ssh 🙂
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[08:21:12] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> !version rom1dep
[08:21:39] <Servant> ThUnD3r|Gr33n©: rom1dep  is running Conversations version 2.4.1+pcr on Android
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[08:25:49] <Freyskeyd> Hello everyone
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[08:30:09] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n©> Freyskeyd: hai
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[08:43:57] <Freyskeyd> i'm discovering `mod_mix` it sounds cool
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[08:44:30] <zinid> yeah, but quite controversal
[08:44:47] <zinid> not every dev agrees it should replace MUC
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[08:50:52] <Freyskeyd> I'm planning to use a lot of mobile devices on my app and I'm trying to implement MucSub
[08:51:06] <Freyskeyd> but mix sounds maybe a better idea instead of Muc+mucsub
[08:51:08] <zinid> you're better off focus on MIX
[08:51:10] <zinid> yes
[08:51:29] <zinid> at least it seems like Conversations is betting on MIX as well
[08:51:58] <Licaon_Kter> Forgot about the mix branch....mmm
[08:52:01] <zinid> for now all primitives are implemented to build a simple chat
[08:52:42] <zinid> lately it will be expanded with room configuration, access management and other minor stuff
[08:53:02] <Freyskeyd> I read that mix already have every MUC spec support right?
[08:53:12] <Freyskeyd> like affiliation/role etc
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[08:54:15] <zinid> yes, but without roles
[08:54:19] <zinid> only affiliations
[08:54:26] <zinid> and the spec is quite ugly
[08:54:36] <zinid> needs more work
[08:55:19] <Freyskeyd> yep
[08:55:32] <Freyskeyd> for now I will stick with Muc and Mucsub so
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[08:56:21] <zinid> Freyskeyd, also, I think you asked about MUC performance? Our MIX implementation is supposed to be very performant, I did some tests and it's able to handle rooms with 100k participants if you have good enough hardware
[08:57:28] <Freyskeyd> yep
[08:57:57] <Freyskeyd> In my use case I've a few people in room but mannnnnny rooms
[08:58:23] <zinid> MIX doesn't keep room states in RAM, so the number of rooms is irrelevant
[08:58:43] <Freyskeyd> yep but MUC did
[08:58:48] <zinid> true
[08:59:06] <Freyskeyd> If I've 100k room created per day, the RAM usage will grow
[08:59:15] <zinid> yes
[09:00:45] <Freyskeyd> In my case a room is created at one time and people can come back later in the day or next days to add messages. I don't want to loose MAM with a room being destroyed and I would like to have subscription on those room to tell other people that a message was posted in the room.
[09:00:54] <Freyskeyd> so, a lot of subscription too
[09:01:07] <Freyskeyd> I'm afraid about performance issue at one time
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[09:31:50] <Holger> Freyskeyd: 19.02 has an option to keep the MAM archive.  But you're not allowed to re-create the room in that case.
[09:32:02] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Hmmm maybe server admins should be allowed :-)
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[09:33:20] <ChaosKid42> Holger: Sounds like we need another acl.
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[09:35:19] <Freyskeyd> Holger: A question I've in mind is: Does a muc subscription is possible on a non persistent room ?
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[09:37:44] <Holger> ChaosKid42: Actually in *this* case I think I'd just permit service admins room creation without adding another option (mod_muc_room has a check for that).
[09:38:34] <Holger> Freyskeyd: MUC/Sub?  I'd have to check ... anyway I think we wanted to ditch MAM support for non-persistent rooms.
[09:40:52] <ChaosKid42> Holger: Okay I'll look into it.
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[10:23:10] <Holger> ChaosKid42: 👍
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[11:10:28] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, check my comment on https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/issues/2808 please
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[11:14:56] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: yeah...true...will try next...
[11:15:33] <Licaon_Kter> Shouldn't it error out on reload_config?
[11:16:22] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, I think no, because it treats s2s_access as a name for the access rule
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[11:16:35] <zinid> so it's kinda tricky
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[11:20:54] <Licaon_Kter> Oh right...
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[11:26:16] <Holger> Licaon_Kter, zinid: Yes, blocking them via 'server:' works for me.
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[11:28:35] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: It's not clear to me why that c2s rule made it work for you.
[11:28:37] <Holger> Whatever.
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[11:29:42] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: see the log as it blocks the user (bridge = user?)
[11:29:56] <Licaon_Kter> Holger: see the log as it blocks that user (bridge = user?) that send messages
[11:32:13] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: No, the bridge is s2s.  And the ejabberd_c2s access rule only affects local clients while attempting to open a c2s session.
[11:33:14] <Holger> Licaon_Kter: Maybe you're using the 'c2s' access rule for the ejabberd_s2s_in listener(s)?
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[11:37:58] <Holger> zinid: Hrm I've now seen ejabberd_stun crashing on TLS connections with "SSL_CTX_use_certificate_file failed: error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory" even though the PEM file hasn't changed since startup.
[11:38:09] <Holger> Staring at the code I don't see the issue.
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[11:38:26] <Holger> While debugging it I reloaded ejabberd_listener and that made the issue go away :-/
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[11:56:53] <zinid> Holger, yeah, I saw it too, reloading the listener helps
[11:56:58] <zinid> that's all I know 😕
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[11:59:38] <Holger> This time I just reloaded the *code" (`l(ejabberd_listener)`) to add a debug statement. Makes no sense to me that this helps.
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[12:01:23] <Holger> Maybe adding the file name to the fast_tls error will give some clue …
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[16:28:08] <zinid> rom1dep, wut?
[16:28:53] <rom1dep> zinid: doesn't dino show roster requests? :)
[16:29:24] <rom1dep> I thought the easiest would have been to http_upload you my error.log
[16:29:28] <zinid> rom1dep, conversations showed none as well
[16:29:43] <zinid> rom1dep, not that I have captcha challenge 😛
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[16:30:24] <rom1dep> dang I must have mistyped your jid
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[16:38:31] <Freyskeyd> does 19.02 is compatible with OTP 21?
[16:38:47] <Holger> Yes.
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[16:39:35] <Freyskeyd> does a hex.pm release is planned this week? :)
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[17:36:56] <zinid> Holger,
> 2019-02-24 16:35:15.224 [error] <0.22033.16>@mod_http_upload:process:463 Cannot handle HEAD request from ::ffff:a.b.c.d for foo.org: {'EXIT',{noproc,{gen_server,call,['mod_http_upload_foo.org/upload',get_conf,60000]}}}
[17:37:22] <zinid> Holger, what does that mean?
[17:38:08] <Holger> zinid: A put_url configured for multiple domains and without @HOST@?
[17:38:18] <zinid> rom1dep, ?
[17:38:21] <Holger> Though that should spit out a better error these days.
[17:39:35] <rom1dep> ```
  mod_http_upload:
    put_url: "https://upload.@HOST@/upload"
    thumbnail: true
```
[17:39:37] <Holger> Otherwise it seems the process died somehow, would be weird and wouldn't it be restarted? You should have a crash.log entry in that case.
[17:40:09] <zinid> let's investigate crash.log then
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[17:40:17] <Holger> Do you have multiple domains?
[17:41:13] <zinid> Holger, is the process name correct/expected?
[17:41:20] <zinid> Holger, there is virtual host foo.org
[17:42:20] <Holger> No, I was going to ask: `mod_http_upload_foo.org`, can you send me the real process name?
[17:42:54] <Holger> It should be `mod_http_upload_upload.foo.org`.
[17:43:16] <Holger> So maybe the client is sending a wrong Host: header for some reason.
[17:43:33] <Holger> Or some reverse proxy is fiddling with it.
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[17:45:00] <zinid> Holger, probably worth checking it without spitting obscure crahes forcing us now to spend time on this? 😛
[17:46:18] <Holger> You mean a nicer error message than `{'EXIT',...}`? Yeah.
[17:47:28] <zinid> yup
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[17:49:04] <Holger> Will do.
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[18:05:49] <rom1dep> sorry guys, now isn't a very good time to help you investigate this :)
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[18:06:42] <rom1dep> Holger: I have only one host, no fancy config, but some double sslh proxying/routing on top of this
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[18:07:45] <Holger> What kind of proxying besides sslh?
[18:07:57] <rom1dep> that being said, it's been proving robust (all my clients work) so that may be a side effect of something
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[18:08:59] <Holger> It always worked and now upload (and/or download) never works?
[18:09:16] <rom1dep> still works fine now
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[18:10:01] <rom1dep> I can't remember seeing reproducible upload/download errors
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[18:13:42] <Holger> Ah. So maybe just some client doing nonsense.
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[18:14:20] <Holger> I'll improve the error (and make it a warning), case closed then 🙂
[18:14:33] <rom1dep> probably. For the record, my setup is that I resove upload.mydomain on a distinct host that routes to the destination host following a sni match sslh rule, then this is picked-up by apache and ProxyPassed to ejabberd
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[18:15:38] <rom1dep> the reason for that is that the dest domain is not always reachable by IP from some countries
[18:16:17] <rom1dep> so I bounce both XMPP and HTTP (for upload.mydomain only) over a proxy host that also serves as an XMPP server
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[18:18:11] <zinid> zomg
[18:18:24] <rom1dep> and this is enabled by some combo of sni_hostnames/alpn_protocols rules across two servers. Can't wait for zinid's P2P stuff ;)
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[18:19:02] <zinid> rom1dep, well, at least my xeps are approved today!
[18:19:24] <Licaon_Kter> zinid: congrats!
[18:19:32] <rom1dep> in fact what I find the ugliest in all that, is that there is no SRV for http. upload.myhost has to resolve to a single IP and that "sucks"
[18:19:40] <rom1dep> zinid: awesome!
[18:19:50] <zinid> Licaon_Kter, that wasn't hard, they didn't understand what's written there 😀
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[18:49:40] <Holger> Hahaha.
[18:49:44] <Holger> zinid: 👍
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[18:51:05] <Holger> rom1dep: You have `ProxyPreserveHost On` I guess?
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[18:56:02] <Holger> Steven Roose: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/tree/master/mod_default_rooms
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[18:56:22] <Holger> Steven Roose: I can help with installing contrib modules if you haven't done this before.
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[19:00:07] <zinid> Holger, that was fast
[19:02:18] <Holger> The module?  Well, not much more than 10 lines besides the boilerplate :-)
[19:02:30] <Holger> Thanks to 'xmpp'.
[19:02:39] <zinid> yeah, the module is simple
[19:02:46] <zinid> but quite elegant
[19:03:30] <Holger> People keep asking about the feature every now and then.
[19:03:47] <zinid> yeah, I've heard them 🙂
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[19:07:17] <Steven Roose> Holger: Awesome! I'll have a look at this soon! Let me bookmark your link :)
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[19:27:46] <zinid> it's about dumb devices
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[21:16:12] <bammes> So nothing to play around with? :(
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[21:53:31] <zinid> only if you have some home automation system or some such
[21:53:55] <zinid> I really don't know, I am not an iot expert
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