Process-one
ejabberd
ejabberd@conference.process-one.net
Wednesday, April 3, 2019< ^ >
zinid has set the subject to: ejabberd discussions: https://docs.ejabberd.im
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[07:13:40] <Holger> zinid: Do you have a script or something for building the PLT for dialyzer?
[07:13:53] <zinid> Holger, make dialyzer doesn't work?
[07:14:02] <Holger> Ahhhhh?!
[07:14:13] <Holger> 😭
[07:14:19] <zinid> wat
[07:14:20] <zinid> :D
[07:14:50] <Holger> I keep doing it manually whenever using Dialyzer. And that's such a PITA. Wasn't aware of that make target 😂
[07:15:35] <zinid> oh, I'm running Gajim again, crap
[07:15:39] <Holger> I started a script that I was going to run from Cron once a day.
[07:15:41] <zinid> let me switch back to Dino
[07:15:54] <Holger> Gonna try `make dialyzer`.
[07:16:25] <zinid> Holger, what are you going to do with dialyzer? Finally fix ejabberd's dialyzer warnings? Someone HAS to do that eventually.
[07:16:53] <Holger> Fixing *my* code 😜
[07:17:01] <zinid> right
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[07:18:31] <Holger> I do run dialyzer whenever I'm done with a new module. But not after applying smaller changes, just because I'm too lazy to cope with the PLT crap. If `make dialyzer` does the trick I'll certainly run it more frequently.
[07:18:53] <zinid> I use make dialyzer all the time
[07:19:03] <Holger> 👍
[07:19:08] <zinid> and usually the target is added to Makefiles of all our projects
[07:19:22] <zinid> I'm not saying this way is the best one
[07:19:28] <Holger> Very cool. Holger blind.
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[07:21:35] <Holger> It does usually find quite a few things for me. Of course this isn't Haskell or OCaml, but for a type system that was tacked on as an afterthought it's quite good.
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[14:00:17] <Freyskeyd> hello!
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[14:01:12] <Freyskeyd> I'm trying to understand how mod_push works. What's called `app servers` are xmpp components? application connected to xmpp? I don't find any proper example...
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[14:03:37] <Holger> Freyskeyd: Only the vendor of an app has the credentials necessary to generate FCM or APNS notifications.
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[14:04:25] <Holger> Freyskeyd: So the user's XMPP server can't generate them unless the app vendor runs the XMPP server himself.
[14:05:11] <Holger> Freyskeyd: So the solution is to have the app vendor run a proxy which generates the notifications.  The user's XMPP server triggers them by connecting to that proxy.
[14:05:17] <Holger> Freyskeyd: That proxy is called "app server".
[14:05:28] <Holger> (Because it's operated by the 'app' vendor.)
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[14:06:05] <Freyskeyd> so: XMPP -> APP that get hit when notifications arrives -> APP that deal with the notification and generate the FCM/APNS -> push to FCM/APNS
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[14:06:55] <Holger> Not sure I understood you correctly but I guess that's right :-)
[14:07:05] <Freyskeyd> my question is, how to implement the app which listen for xmpp and forward the notification to the proxy
[14:07:27] <Holger> You're writing the Android/iOS app yourself?
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[14:08:20] <Holger> Or what "app" are you talking about?
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[14:09:46] <Holger> The chain e.g. for Monal is: ejabberd's mod_push --> push.monal.im (the "app server") --> Apple/APNS --> Monal (on the iPhone).
[14:10:28] <Freyskeyd> I've both IOS/android APP
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[14:11:19] <Holger> And you run the XMPP service yourself?  I.e. a closed environment?
[14:11:43] <Freyskeyd> yep
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[14:11:52] <Holger> In that case you don't really need that chain of course but could just use/write an ejabberd module that generates the APNS/FCM notifications directly.
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[14:12:24] <Holger> The Business Edition has such a thing, and there's stuff on GitHub but that might be outdated.
[14:12:30] <Freyskeyd> I want to generate it outside of xmpp
[14:12:49] <Freyskeyd> because I'm using FCM/APNS for other things than xmpp
[14:12:49] <Holger> If you want to use mod_push, then yes you'll have to write an "app server".
[14:12:55] <Holger> Or use existing stuff ...
[14:13:00] <Freyskeyd> how do I write it?
[14:13:14] <Freyskeyd> is it xmpp component?
[14:13:22] <Holger> Well my response would still be the same, you don't really need that extra hop.
[14:14:10] <Holger> The app server needs to accept XMPP server-to-server connections and accept the notifications it receives from mod_push.
[14:14:35] <Holger> You could implement it as an XMPP component so you don't have to take care of the XMPP server-to-server foo yourself.
[14:14:47] <Holger> The app server for Conversations does that.
[14:15:01] <Holger> It's here: https://github.com/iNPUTmice/p2
[14:15:17] <Holger> The README will help you.
[14:15:23] <Freyskeyd> ok thank's
[14:15:34] <Holger> The protocol is described here: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0357.html
[14:15:48] <Holger> It's trivial but the XEP tries hard to explain it in very complicated words.
[14:16:03] <Freyskeyd> In my use case I just need to forward incomming mod_push notif to another external service in fact
[14:16:08] <Holger> The trick is to totally ignore all sentences that include the term "PubSub".
[14:16:26] <Freyskeyd> ahah
[14:16:31] <Holger> It has nothing to do with PubSub except that the notification stanza uses PubSub-like syntax.
[14:17:08] <Holger> The author kinda assumed it sounds like he's reusing existing technology if he obfuscates the XEP with PubSub blah-blah.
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[15:25:19] <Freyskeyd> Holger: Only xmpp component can receive pubsub notification stanza?
[15:26:22] <Holger> I don't understand the question.
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[15:32:03] <Freyskeyd> I'm trying to simulate two user, one enable notification but my stanza keep returning error
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[15:32:58] <Freyskeyd> The documentation is not clear
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[15:33:12] <Holger> If the error is returned by mod_push feel free to show me.
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[15:33:29] <Holger> > The documentation is not clear
Nor are your questions :-)
[15:34:01] <Holger> The target audience of the mod_push documentation is admins of public XMPP servers.  They usually just configure "mod_push: {}" and are done.
[15:34:12] <Holger> But maybe you're talking about other documentation ...
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[15:37:18] <Freyskeyd> my use case is simple, when a JID isn't connected and a message is push to a room that the JID was participant, I want to push this message to an external service.
[15:37:49] <Freyskeyd> maybe mod_push isn't what I need
[15:38:36] <Holger> Right, you could use it, but it's slightly more complex than what you need.  That's what I said above.
[15:39:41] <Freyskeyd> what are my other options then ? :/
[15:39:42] <Holger> Maybe something like this, but no idea whether it still works: https://github.com/processone/ejabberd-contrib/tree/master/mod_post_log
[15:39:56] <Holger> I don't know.  There might be nothing out of the box.
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[17:27:42] <VC> on my server I have directories:
/opt/ejabberd-18.03
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how cacn I safely remove all not needed directories?? just rm directories?
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[19:16:49] <Licaon_Kter> VC: `ejabberd status` so you check what version is running... then rm the others
Also, see if you have multiple lib versions, keep only the latest versions.
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[22:04:07] <poVoq> anyone using Saros with ejabberd? http://www.saros-project.org/
[22:04:23] <poVoq> I just learned about it and it seems quite cool
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[22:10:42] <poVoq> >Saros is an Open Source IDE plugin for distributed collaborative software development.
    All participants of a Saros session have an identical local copy of the projects they work on.
    They can work in their usual IDE using all of its features (currently only Eclipse, IntelliJ IDEA support is coming soon).
    Saros keeps their copies in sync, so everyone can work completely concurrently and in real-time.
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[22:44:47] <poVoq> their FAQ is probably the most easy: http://www.saros-project.org/faq
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